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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 221123

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Larryc - 1 year ago
    Where was Jesus nailed in the hands or wrist? I believe it was his hands. Some say wrist.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Jesse

    It's a pleasure to hear from you,brother.

    As I quoted in my prior post,JESUS shewed unto His disciples His HANDS and His FEET- Luke 24:40.

    You think that "Scripture does not give us that", but remember that our GOD said to the Serpent-> GEnesis 3:13-15 combined with Job 13:27:

    13And the Lord GOD said unto the woman,What is this that thou hast done?And the woman said,The serpent beguiled me,and I did eat(i.e.the woman believed in the interpretation of the Word of GOD by the man of sin,son of perdition,called Serpent in Genesis.Today, i.e.in this time of Apocalypse,he is called red Dragon- Revelation 12).

    14And the Lord GOD said unto the serpent,Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed...and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: (man was made of the dust",so once man fell deceived by the woman deceived by the man of sin,and still is until this current time, who is the son of perdition,in the beginning called Serpent.

    In fact,all mankind was made/produced into the belly of the Serpent, EXCEPT JESUS,of course,my oldest brother,the firstborn among many brethren- Romans 8:29.By the way, GOD has a lot and countless sons,but there are two who are lawful GOD's sons,not by adoption-JESUS and the Comfort,the Paraclete,the Ancient of days.

    15And I-GOD- will put enmity between thee and the woman(now the Church-the body of Christ-,and between thy seed(sons of Devil) and her seed(sons of GOD, true believers);it shall bruise thy head,and thou shalt bruise His heel.

    Remember,JESUS said- Luke 20:35-36:

    35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world(the next world-the millennial GOD's Kingdom- Revelation 11:15-18),and the resurrection from the dead(dead? Colossians 3:3-7.Take a look), neither marry,nor are given in marriage:

    36 Neither can they die any more:for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God,being the children of the resurrection ( Colossians 3:3-7 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:17 and 1Corinthians 15:51-55).
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Larryc, and Jesse, and Jim Miller

    JESUS was nailed exactly in the center of His hands on the lines that form the figure of an M. And was also nailed in each foot , nailed close to the heel, in the calcaneus region.

    Luke 24:36-43

    36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

    37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and SUPPOSED that they HAD SEEN A SPIRIT.

    38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

    39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONES as ye see me have.

    40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them His HANDS and his FEET.

    41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

    42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

    43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

    In fact GOD allowed His Son JESUS to be taken to the slaughter like a sheep,but the way He would be killed was not chosen by GOD the Father,but by the Devil,that is the old Serpent,and Satan;and the object that was chosen by the Devil was the satanic CROSS for killing JESUS,for torturing Him,and for humiliation,and mockery, and for the most cruel suffering,until death.JESUS already knew the satanic plan of the Devil- Matthew 26:2-Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover,and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.

    To take up the cross is to suffer for the love of JESUS,to suffer for the preaching of His Gospel,suffering to testify of His Word in the Devil's world,to suffer for the preaching of His teachings within the Devils's world,to suffer testifying of the redeeming work of JESUS for the corrupt world of Devil,whose work cost his own life by dying on the man-made cross, Devil's cross.Devil's cross that many have on their avatar,the satanic cross that devilish Catholicism kisses and adores, understand? CROSS IS CURSE.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Oseas,

    Thank you for this information. I do agree that the nail scars were visible in His hands. As far as being nailed in each foot, scripture does not give us that. Can you please share your source of that information?

    Also, I am trying to figure out how the entire second half of your post has anything to do with the question that was asked. Can you help me out there also?

    Thanks again for sharing!
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Jesse;

    Our only hint of the nails driven into Christ lower limbs is found in:

    Job 13:27 ... thou settest a print in the heels of my feet.......

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Larryc,

    I also believe the nails were through His hands. John 20:27 seems to indicate hands.

    I have also heard some say the nails were through His wrists. The reason they say this is because of the bone structure. They say that the way the wrist bones form right below the hand, that is the only way a nail would support the weight of the body.

    My thoughts are that they probably tied Him down first before they drove the nails in, but that is just speculation on my part.
  • Jim Miller - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The exact details of how Jesus was nailed during the crucifixion are a matter of historical debate and interpretation. The Gospels of the New Testament, which are the primary sources for the crucifixion account, do not provide specific anatomical details.

    Traditionally, many artistic representations and depictions of the crucifixion show Jesus nailed through his hands. However, some scholars and medical experts have suggested that crucifixion through the palms of the hands would not have been as effective in supporting the weight of the body on the cross, as the nails could easily rip through the flesh due to the lack of solid support.

    It's worth noting that the Roman practice of crucifixion likely varied over time and in different regions, and the specific methods used may have differed. Some researchers argue that crucifixion victims were more likely to be nailed through the wrists, as this would provide more structural support and reduce the risk of the nails tearing through the flesh. In this view, the term "hands" in the Gospel accounts may have been used more generically to refer to the wrists and the area where the hand meets the forearm.

    Ultimately, the historical evidence is not conclusive, and the precise details of how Jesus Christ the son of God was nailed during the crucifixion may never be definitively known. Different interpretations and beliefs exist on this matter, but the theological significance of the crucifixion is not dependent on the specific anatomical details.

    I would also like to add that NEVER in all of Roman history did anyone ever survive a Roman crucifixion. They were very good at what they did highly trained killers.



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