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God never changes. He is always the same in His nature. Therefore we can depend on His character to always remain stable and true. We can depend on what He has revealed of Himself and what He has caused to be recorded of His Words in Scripture. He is the same yesterday, today, and always. (Heb.1:12; 13:3; Ps. 102:27 )
This also means that His attributes never change, never increasing, nor decreasing, never adding any new attribute nor subtracting any. Every attribute of God is infinite, limitless, and absolutely perfect. He is forever this way. ( Mal. 3:6)
Pg 2: since the page I was just writing was submitted without any intention of submitting at that time.
To continue: Of course truth matters; I don't think anyone would be on this site if it didn't.
God bless you, all who seek His Truth; AND all who don't, for THEY need His blessings in the same manner. Let us continue to pray for our perceived enemies whom we perceive as going against the Word of God. Let us do so, so that they can become our friends.
I'm going to refrain from answering your question on whether I believe the Word of God. But I will say that I don't believe anything the ego speaks.
Please understand that I feel no need to defend modern bible versions, nor the KJV for that matter. If one or the other is true, it needs not my defense, for the Spirit is Truth and He needs NO defense. Truth Is.
Nor do I want to fall into the egocentric trap of attacking your thought system, as it would be a show of disrespect to a brother whom I desire to love with the Love of God; for there is no other Love.
My desire is to teach peace. To have peace, one must teach peace to learn peace; there is no other way. I'm slowly learning that attacking another's system of thought does not bring peace to my mind. My sole desire is for healing: not to approach others with the mindset of having to prove something
I do thank you for your comments. I didn't mean to offend you with that question but to me its really that simple.
If we don't believe that God preserved His Word for ever like He promised us in His Word, then what is our final authority?
The Word of God has to be our final authority, but if its modern version bibles then which one would that be? They are all different. And how can we trust a bible that calls Jesus Christ a liar?
The Truth does matter One eighty, I have shown many posts that has nothing to do with my thought system, and surely not my opinion but has shown modern version bibles to be doctrine that is not sound doctrine, but corrupt doctrine.
You said "Of course truth matters; I don't think anyone would be on this site if it didn't". There is much deception in this world today, ( Mt 7:15) "false prophets which come to you in sheep's clothing". ( Mt 24:11) "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many". And in ( 2 Cor 11:13-15) The word (ministers) speaking of Satan's minsters in v15 are disguised as Christian teachers and pastors. The word (transformed) is #3345; it means to transfigure or disguise.
You have a desire to teach peace, that's a great thing for one to teach in this time period we live in today, that will help many.
I have a desire to show the Truth One eighty, and there are a few subjects that are very important to show the Truth in the Word of God by using Scripture. The inspired preserved Word of God is one of those subjects, And as I'm sure you can see there is deception in almost everything today.
The reason I say "God Bless all who seek His Truth" is that it truly seems today that many people ignore, or just push aside the Truth like it has no meaning when it is presented straight from the Word of God. Some of that on this subject would be caused by a belief and trust in modern version bibles.
Again I did not mean to offend you.
God Bless you and all who seek His Truth, (and everybody else) for One eighty.
Although my answer was not directly answered as you preferred, I stated that I did not believe anything the ego speaks. That leaves only one remaining choice , in my opinion. The Holy Spirit and the ego (the devil to you, I assume) are the only choices open to us. God created one, and so we cannot eradicate it. We made the other, and so we can. Only what God creates is irreversible and unchangeable. What we made can always be changed because, when we do not think like
God, we are not really thinking at all.
Personally, I haven't read a bible that says, "Jesus Christ is a liar". I do believe though, it is likely there are mistakes in them. This is why the Holy Spirit Who is the Voice for God is my Authority.
Of course Truth matters, Jimbob; as I clearly stated in my previous comment. You might want to reconsider that everything we say and do, no matter what the topic or situation, has a direct relation to our thought system. Where else would it come from but the mind, which is what we think with?
Your desire to show the truth is obvious, and I've encouraged you to exercise this gift. Yet none of us have knowledge, because knowledge is all one and has no separate parts; we either know or we don't. Until we are in the Kingdom, we merely perceive with a right mind or wrong mind, with seemingly endless degrees of perception between. As I've said before, perception can always be wrong. My perception is not perfect as yet, I admit. Because I have one desire and you have another does not mean I'm judging you.
The reason I prefer to have God bless all, even though they seem to ignore and push aside truth, is because I'm certain I'm in no position to judge another's heart. I don't know any man's entire past, present, or future; don't want to: no peace in that. I'd rather judge God's Creation innocent, and trust the Holy Spirit to do His thing.
Please my friend, how could a Child of God offend me; perhaps on a very bad day. You've never offended me. Sometimes it seems we offend each other because it's difficult to perceive our tone, and of course we can't see our expressions. I have tried to communicate with you as carefully as possible, and hope I have not offended you.
I choose to think neither of us desires to offend each other.
Mark 11:26 KJV: But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
Mark 11:26 NIV: The verse is omitted completely. I will comment though, that within Mark 11:25, the same meaning is expressed, i.e. if one does not forgive, neither will God forgive.
More relevant though, again is the footnote in the NIV: "This verse is not found in the earliest and best manuscripts of the NT, probably having been inserted from MT 6:15"; which IS included in the NIV. This means it's quite possible, or highly probable that the KJV copyists added it to coincide with Matthew.
But it is obvious that the NIV translators had no malice or corrupt motives with this passage, as you are suggesting.
Next; Mark 15:28 KJV: And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
Mark 15:28 NIV: This verse is also omitted.
NIV footnote: "The earlier and more reliable Greek manuscripts do not have this verse. It was probably added from LK 22:37 (quoting Isa 53:12). Mark does not include many OT quotations."
The NIV copyists appear to put forth great effort as to why they chose to delete this verse, and in the text note they say that, "some manuscripts; v28 And the scripture was fulfilled which says, " He was counted with the lawless ones" ( Isaiah 53:12)."
I do not want anyone to have the impression that I'm attempting to prove the KJV translations are incorrect. On the contrary, my original intent was to respond to you questioning some passages in the modern Bible versions. With genuine respect, you may consider choosing to look into the footnotes and text notes of some of these versions. I wish I had time to reply to the numerous passages you've brought to the attention to those on this site. Perhaps now you may want to do so on your own.
It's really simple One eighty, do you Believe the Word of God?
God promised He would preserve His Word in ( Ps 12:6-7) The Word of God is Truth, God preserved His Word in 1611 in the KJB.
The words of the LORD are pure words.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (EVERY) WORD, (EVERY) WORD of God is pure.
In ( John 14:23) Jesus said "If a man love me, ((he will keep my words)); and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
There a condition with Jesus and the Father coming unto a person and making their abode with him, what is it? ((he will keep my words))
Keep His words.
Then if we look at the other side of it.
( Jer 23:36) Tells us "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
All the modern version bibles have changed the words of the living God!
( Jer 23) is prophecy for today about pastors that feed God's people ( Jer 23:1-2) and scatter His flock.
What do pastors feed Gods people? The Word of God!
Then we see ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) Where is the doctrine at today that's not sound doctrine?
Those who do not endure sound doctrine are those who choose the bibles that (change) or pervert their words, turning from the truth.
So there would be (perverted) scripture meaning (to change) the words, these would not be sound doctrine, this is also all modern version bibles. Then we see ( 2 Tim 3:16) "scripture that is inspired by God", the KJB.
Conclusion on my reply on the David and Goliath issue in 2 Samuel 21:19: and I quote the text note, "l 19" (referring to the word Jaare-Oregim) "Or son of Jair the weaver." "m 19 Hebrew and Septuagant; 1 Chron. 20:5 son of Jair killed Lahmi the brother of Goliath."
the footnote: "Elhanan...... killed Goliath. See NIV text note" (above paragraph). "Since it is clear from 1 Sa 17 that David killed Goliath, an earlier copyist probably misread the Hebrew for "Lamhi the brother of" (see 1 Ch 20:5) "as the Bethlehemite" (in Hebrew the word for "killed" stands first in the clause). Jaare Oregim. The Hebrew for "Oregim" also occurs at the end of the verse, where it is translated "weavers." An earlier copyist probably inserted it in the name by mistake, since 1 Ch.20:5 reads "Jair" (apparently correctly) instead of "Jaare-Oregim."
What I'm perceiving is that the KJV writers added "the brother of" because it obviously didn't make sense in the original writings, or those that the KJV copyist/s were translating from, that David AND his brother killed Goliath at different times. Actually, it was the NIV writers who put forth the effort , made evident by the text and footnotes, to clear up the matter. I don't see anything purposely deceptive here that warrants the term "corrupt," in regards to the NIV.
Yet, I could be totally off the mark here, since I'm not, and don't claim to be an authority in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc; nor one who desires to decipher nearly every word or passage, for that matter, from the Bible; not my gift. I do though, genuinely appreciate and am grateful for those who do. I've learned much from you. Sincere thanks, and I encourage you to continue this gift you've been blessed with.
When time allows I'll try to address the issue you brought to attention from Mark.
One eighty thank you for your comment, I really appreciate your kind words of encouragement.
The words of the LORD are pure words. ( Ps 12:6-7) (pure) is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every.
For the word of God is (quick) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword ( Hebrews 4:12) (quick) #2198 it means to live, alive. The word of God is Alive, the word of God is not confusion!
God is not the author of confusion ( 1 Cor 14:33) (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant, unstable.
All these different modern version bibles that change words and completely leave out whole verses are instability, disorder, they are inconstant, they are unstable! Many have changed their own words several different times! ( 1 Cor 1:10) Telle us "that we all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among us, but that we be perfectly joined together in the same mind"..
( Jer 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
The words of the LORD are pure words, (pure) #2889; sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Mt 4:4)
EVERY WORD!
"For we are not as many, which (corrupt) the word of God".. ( 2 Cor 2:17) (corrupt) is #2585; it means to retail, (to adulterate).
This is doctrine that's not sound doctrine, but it is instability, inconstant, and unstable! ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) IT IS CORRUPT!
Remember the words of the LORD are pure words, they are sound, (unadulterated), uncontaminated.
One eighty look up ( Ps 12:7) in your Niv bible and compare it with the KJB.
Also compare ( Mark 11:26) and ( Eph 3:9) in your Niv with the KJB.
And here's a really big one to compare ( Col 1:14)
This is the definition of (perverted), #2015 it means to change.
To clarify something, I have also a King James Bible which I use.
To get the point of answering your questions: My KJV says in 1 Samuel 17:49, "And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth." The word "it" has a different font, meaning, I think, it was added for easier understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV I have says, "As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell face down on the ground.
I don't see anything so far that causes any confusion to the meaning as to what occurred here. David slew Goliath.
My KJV in 2 Samuel 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaerogim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. The words "the brother of" are also in a different font, as to give indication they were added for clarification. Also the word "was", referring to the spear has a different font.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV says, "In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gitite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod.
So yes, there is some confusion here. But the "corrupt" NIV text note and footnote appears to clean it up.
I have a Zondervan NIV Study Bible that says in John 7:8, "You go to the Feast. I am not yet going up to this Feast, because for me the right time has not yet come". Also, there is a footnote that says, "some early manuscripts do not have yet".
You said "We can depend on what he has revealed of Himself and what He has caused to be recorded of His Words in Scripture. He is the same yesterday, today, and always".
I agree with that 100%!
( Titus 1:2) Tells us "In hope of eternal life, which ((God, that cannot lie)), promised before the world began".
God cannot lie.
The KJB tells us that Jesus said in ( Jn 7:8) .."I go ((not up yet)) unto this feast" Then v10 Jesus goes to the feast.
All modern version bibles change what Jesus said in v8 to "I am ((not going)) to this festival" Then v10 Jesus went to the festival in all of the modern versions.
Modern versions all changed the words to make Jesus a liar. Would you say that's acceptable?
It seems that could be blasphemy, changing the words so it sounds like Jesus is a liar. God surely didn't cause those words to be recorded in Scripture to make Jesus a liar. This one thing is Biblical proof that modern versions are all corrupt, and they are not inspired by God.
It only needs to be seen and accepted as the Truth that it is.
IMMUTABLE
God never changes. He is always the same in His nature. Therefore we can depend on His character to always remain stable and true. We can depend on what He has revealed of Himself and what He has caused to be recorded of His Words in Scripture. He is the same yesterday, today, and always. (Heb.1:12; 13:3; Ps. 102:27 )
This also means that His attributes never change, never increasing, nor decreasing, never adding any new attribute nor subtracting any. Every attribute of God is infinite, limitless, and absolutely perfect. He is forever this way. ( Mal. 3:6)
Pg 2: since the page I was just writing was submitted without any intention of submitting at that time.
To continue: Of course truth matters; I don't think anyone would be on this site if it didn't.
God bless you, all who seek His Truth; AND all who don't, for THEY need His blessings in the same manner. Let us continue to pray for our perceived enemies whom we perceive as going against the Word of God. Let us do so, so that they can become our friends.
Peace
I'm going to refrain from answering your question on whether I believe the Word of God. But I will say that I don't believe anything the ego speaks.
Please understand that I feel no need to defend modern bible versions, nor the KJV for that matter. If one or the other is true, it needs not my defense, for the Spirit is Truth and He needs NO defense. Truth Is.
Nor do I want to fall into the egocentric trap of attacking your thought system, as it would be a show of disrespect to a brother whom I desire to love with the Love of God; for there is no other Love.
My desire is to teach peace. To have peace, one must teach peace to learn peace; there is no other way. I'm slowly learning that attacking another's system of thought does not bring peace to my mind. My sole desire is for healing: not to approach others with the mindset of having to prove something
I do thank you for your comments. I didn't mean to offend you with that question but to me its really that simple.
If we don't believe that God preserved His Word for ever like He promised us in His Word, then what is our final authority?
The Word of God has to be our final authority, but if its modern version bibles then which one would that be? They are all different. And how can we trust a bible that calls Jesus Christ a liar?
The Truth does matter One eighty, I have shown many posts that has nothing to do with my thought system, and surely not my opinion but has shown modern version bibles to be doctrine that is not sound doctrine, but corrupt doctrine.
You said "Of course truth matters; I don't think anyone would be on this site if it didn't". There is much deception in this world today, ( Mt 7:15) "false prophets which come to you in sheep's clothing". ( Mt 24:11) "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many". And in ( 2 Cor 11:13-15) The word (ministers) speaking of Satan's minsters in v15 are disguised as Christian teachers and pastors. The word (transformed) is #3345; it means to transfigure or disguise.
You have a desire to teach peace, that's a great thing for one to teach in this time period we live in today, that will help many.
I have a desire to show the Truth One eighty, and there are a few subjects that are very important to show the Truth in the Word of God by using Scripture. The inspired preserved Word of God is one of those subjects, And as I'm sure you can see there is deception in almost everything today.
The reason I say "God Bless all who seek His Truth" is that it truly seems today that many people ignore, or just push aside the Truth like it has no meaning when it is presented straight from the Word of God. Some of that on this subject would be caused by a belief and trust in modern version bibles.
Again I did not mean to offend you.
God Bless you and all who seek His Truth, (and everybody else) for One eighty.
You didn't offend me in the least.
Although my answer was not directly answered as you preferred, I stated that I did not believe anything the ego speaks. That leaves only one remaining choice , in my opinion. The Holy Spirit and the ego (the devil to you, I assume) are the only choices open to us. God created one, and so we cannot eradicate it. We made the other, and so we can. Only what God creates is irreversible and unchangeable. What we made can always be changed because, when we do not think like
God, we are not really thinking at all.
Personally, I haven't read a bible that says, "Jesus Christ is a liar". I do believe though, it is likely there are mistakes in them. This is why the Holy Spirit Who is the Voice for God is my Authority.
Of course Truth matters, Jimbob; as I clearly stated in my previous comment. You might want to reconsider that everything we say and do, no matter what the topic or situation, has a direct relation to our thought system. Where else would it come from but the mind, which is what we think with?
Your desire to show the truth is obvious, and I've encouraged you to exercise this gift. Yet none of us have knowledge, because knowledge is all one and has no separate parts; we either know or we don't. Until we are in the Kingdom, we merely perceive with a right mind or wrong mind, with seemingly endless degrees of perception between. As I've said before, perception can always be wrong. My perception is not perfect as yet, I admit. Because I have one desire and you have another does not mean I'm judging you.
The reason I prefer to have God bless all, even though they seem to ignore and push aside truth, is because I'm certain I'm in no position to judge another's heart. I don't know any man's entire past, present, or future; don't want to: no peace in that. I'd rather judge God's Creation innocent, and trust the Holy Spirit to do His thing.
see p. 2
p. 2
Please my friend, how could a Child of God offend me; perhaps on a very bad day. You've never offended me. Sometimes it seems we offend each other because it's difficult to perceive our tone, and of course we can't see our expressions. I have tried to communicate with you as carefully as possible, and hope I have not offended you.
I choose to think neither of us desires to offend each other.
Peace
Ok, I'll comment on the two passages from Mark.
Mark 11:26 KJV: But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
Mark 11:26 NIV: The verse is omitted completely. I will comment though, that within Mark 11:25, the same meaning is expressed, i.e. if one does not forgive, neither will God forgive.
More relevant though, again is the footnote in the NIV: "This verse is not found in the earliest and best manuscripts of the NT, probably having been inserted from MT 6:15"; which IS included in the NIV. This means it's quite possible, or highly probable that the KJV copyists added it to coincide with Matthew.
But it is obvious that the NIV translators had no malice or corrupt motives with this passage, as you are suggesting.
Next; Mark 15:28 KJV: And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
Mark 15:28 NIV: This verse is also omitted.
NIV footnote: "The earlier and more reliable Greek manuscripts do not have this verse. It was probably added from LK 22:37 (quoting Isa 53:12). Mark does not include many OT quotations."
The NIV copyists appear to put forth great effort as to why they chose to delete this verse, and in the text note they say that, "some manuscripts; v28 And the scripture was fulfilled which says, " He was counted with the lawless ones" ( Isaiah 53:12)."
I do not want anyone to have the impression that I'm attempting to prove the KJV translations are incorrect. On the contrary, my original intent was to respond to you questioning some passages in the modern Bible versions. With genuine respect, you may consider choosing to look into the footnotes and text notes of some of these versions. I wish I had time to reply to the numerous passages you've brought to the attention to those on this site. Perhaps now you may want to do so on your own.
It's really simple One eighty, do you Believe the Word of God?
God promised He would preserve His Word in ( Ps 12:6-7) The Word of God is Truth, God preserved His Word in 1611 in the KJB.
The words of the LORD are pure words.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (EVERY) WORD, (EVERY) WORD of God is pure.
In ( John 14:23) Jesus said "If a man love me, ((he will keep my words)); and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him".
There a condition with Jesus and the Father coming unto a person and making their abode with him, what is it? ((he will keep my words))
Keep His words.
Then if we look at the other side of it.
( Jer 23:36) Tells us "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
All the modern version bibles have changed the words of the living God!
( Jer 23) is prophecy for today about pastors that feed God's people ( Jer 23:1-2) and scatter His flock.
What do pastors feed Gods people? The Word of God!
Then we see ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) Where is the doctrine at today that's not sound doctrine?
Those who do not endure sound doctrine are those who choose the bibles that (change) or pervert their words, turning from the truth.
So there would be (perverted) scripture meaning (to change) the words, these would not be sound doctrine, this is also all modern version bibles. Then we see ( 2 Tim 3:16) "scripture that is inspired by God", the KJB.
Truth is what matters One eighty.
Again thank you for your response.
God Bless you and all who seek His Truth.
Conclusion on my reply on the David and Goliath issue in 2 Samuel 21:19: and I quote the text note, "l 19" (referring to the word Jaare-Oregim) "Or son of Jair the weaver." "m 19 Hebrew and Septuagant; 1 Chron. 20:5 son of Jair killed Lahmi the brother of Goliath."
the footnote: "Elhanan...... killed Goliath. See NIV text note" (above paragraph). "Since it is clear from 1 Sa 17 that David killed Goliath, an earlier copyist probably misread the Hebrew for "Lamhi the brother of" (see 1 Ch 20:5) "as the Bethlehemite" (in Hebrew the word for "killed" stands first in the clause). Jaare Oregim. The Hebrew for "Oregim" also occurs at the end of the verse, where it is translated "weavers." An earlier copyist probably inserted it in the name by mistake, since 1 Ch.20:5 reads "Jair" (apparently correctly) instead of "Jaare-Oregim."
What I'm perceiving is that the KJV writers added "the brother of" because it obviously didn't make sense in the original writings, or those that the KJV copyist/s were translating from, that David AND his brother killed Goliath at different times. Actually, it was the NIV writers who put forth the effort , made evident by the text and footnotes, to clear up the matter. I don't see anything purposely deceptive here that warrants the term "corrupt," in regards to the NIV.
Yet, I could be totally off the mark here, since I'm not, and don't claim to be an authority in Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc; nor one who desires to decipher nearly every word or passage, for that matter, from the Bible; not my gift. I do though, genuinely appreciate and am grateful for those who do. I've learned much from you. Sincere thanks, and I encourage you to continue this gift you've been blessed with.
When time allows I'll try to address the issue you brought to attention from Mark.
Peace
The words of the LORD are pure words. ( Ps 12:6-7) (pure) is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
Every word of God is pure ( Proverbs 30:5-6) (Every) is #3605; it means the whole, all, any or every.
For the word of God is (quick) and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword ( Hebrews 4:12) (quick) #2198 it means to live, alive. The word of God is Alive, the word of God is not confusion!
God is not the author of confusion ( 1 Cor 14:33) (confusion) is #181; it means instability, i.e. disorder, inconstant, unstable.
All these different modern version bibles that change words and completely leave out whole verses are instability, disorder, they are inconstant, they are unstable! Many have changed their own words several different times! ( 1 Cor 1:10) Telle us "that we all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among us, but that we be perfectly joined together in the same mind"..
( Jer 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" (perverted) is #2015; it means to change.
The words of the LORD are pure words, (pure) #2889; sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated.
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by ((every word)) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Mt 4:4)
EVERY WORD!
"For we are not as many, which (corrupt) the word of God".. ( 2 Cor 2:17) (corrupt) is #2585; it means to retail, (to adulterate).
This is doctrine that's not sound doctrine, but it is instability, inconstant, and unstable! ( 2 Tim 4:3-4) IT IS CORRUPT!
Remember the words of the LORD are pure words, they are sound, (unadulterated), uncontaminated.
One eighty look up ( Ps 12:7) in your Niv bible and compare it with the KJB.
Also compare ( Mark 11:26) and ( Eph 3:9) in your Niv with the KJB.
And here's a really big one to compare ( Col 1:14)
This is the definition of (perverted), #2015 it means to change.
God Bless you, and all who seek His Truth.
To clarify something, I have also a King James Bible which I use.
To get the point of answering your questions: My KJV says in 1 Samuel 17:49, "And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth." The word "it" has a different font, meaning, I think, it was added for easier understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV I have says, "As the Philistine moved closer to attack him, David ran quickly toward the battle line to meet him. Reaching into his bag and taking out a stone, he slung it and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone sank into his forehead, and he fell face down on the ground.
I don't see anything so far that causes any confusion to the meaning as to what occurred here. David slew Goliath.
My KJV in 2 Samuel 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaerogim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. The words "the brother of" are also in a different font, as to give indication they were added for clarification. Also the word "was", referring to the spear has a different font.
The KJV on this site is identical.
The NIV says, "In another battle with the Philistines at Gob, Elhanan son of Jaare-Oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gitite, who had a spear with a shaft like a weaver's rod.
So yes, there is some confusion here. But the "corrupt" NIV text note and footnote appears to clean it up.
I'll send it on another page.
Peace
I have a Zondervan NIV Study Bible that says in John 7:8, "You go to the Feast. I am not yet going up to this Feast, because for me the right time has not yet come". Also, there is a footnote that says, "some early manuscripts do not have yet".
Thought this may interest you.
Peace
I have never seen a modern version that says "yet". Try "Bible Hub" to see the differences in all Bibles.
I honestly don't think a "footnote" in a corrupt bible is going to be your best option for the Truth.
If God preserved His Inspired Words in the KJB, and He did.
That means all modern version bibles are corrupt, (they are not sound doctrine) as in ( 2 Tim 4:3-4)
I am just a little curious One eighty if you don't mind answering a couple of questions about your Niv bible,
1st. In your Niv bible (who killed Goliath) in ( 2 Samuel 21:19)?
2nd. Was the (scripture fulfilled) in ( Mark 15:28) in your Niv bible?
Thank you One eighty.
Blessings to you.
You said "We can depend on what he has revealed of Himself and what He has caused to be recorded of His Words in Scripture. He is the same yesterday, today, and always".
I agree with that 100%!
( Titus 1:2) Tells us "In hope of eternal life, which ((God, that cannot lie)), promised before the world began".
God cannot lie.
The KJB tells us that Jesus said in ( Jn 7:8) .."I go ((not up yet)) unto this feast" Then v10 Jesus goes to the feast.
All modern version bibles change what Jesus said in v8 to "I am ((not going)) to this festival" Then v10 Jesus went to the festival in all of the modern versions.
Modern versions all changed the words to make Jesus a liar. Would you say that's acceptable?
It seems that could be blasphemy, changing the words so it sounds like Jesus is a liar. God surely didn't cause those words to be recorded in Scripture to make Jesus a liar. This one thing is Biblical proof that modern versions are all corrupt, and they are not inspired by God.
It only needs to be seen and accepted as the Truth that it is.
God Bless all who seek God's Truth.
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