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  • Alex Palace - 1 year ago
    Is Jesus the Arch angel Michael?
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Alex Palace,

    Is Jesus Michael the archangel? I have heard this from the Jehovah's Witnesses. Some say the angel of the LORD were manifestations of Jesus before His incarnation, but Jesus is not an angel.

    Michael is the only angel specifically called an archangel, Jude 1:9. Michael is the chief prince who stands up for Israel, Daniel 10:13,21 Daniel 12:1. We see that Michael and his angels battle the dragon/Satan and his angels and cast them down to earth out of heaven with no place found for them anymore in heaven for them, Revelation 12:7-8.

    We see in 1 Thessalonians 4:15 that when Jesus returns it will be announced by a shout, by the voice of the archangel, I understand that as Michael.

    Jesus is the Son of God, our Lord who gave his life and shed His blood for us. Jesus's name is above all, Ephesians 1:21 including Michael. At the burning bush, it was the angel of the LORD, it does not say what angel it was.

    Heb. 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

    My understanding Jesus is not any kind of angel, Michael was probably the angel of the LORD we see in the OT because Michael is the chief prince of Israel and Michael will announce Jesus's second coming.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Ronald Whittemore:

    We constantly grow in the grace and knowledge of God, only in his time frame, his appointed time to each of his children.

    I think there is enough evidence through out the word of God that shows Christ is the angel of the Lord.

    Acts 27:23 And there stood before me this night the ANGEL of the Lord, whose I am, and whom I serve.

    We serve Christ, the angel (messenger) of the Lord (God).

    Galatians 4:14 ....but received me as an angel of God, EVEN AS Jesus Christ.

    Isaiah 63:9 In all their (creations) affections he (Christ) was afflicted, and the ANGEL of HIS (God's) presence SAVED them, in his (God's) love and his (God's) pity he (God) redeemed (through Christ, God's does all things through Christ) and bare them, and

    carried them all the days of old.

    There is many more scriptures, I like you try to keep comment short.

    God BLESS YOU as we grow together in the knowledge of God.

    Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE body ... ONE Spirit ....

    Ephesians 4:5 ..... ONE God ..... Father of ALL .... even angels .... above all ..... through you all .... and IN YOU ALL .....even angels.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 ..... that God may be ALL in ALL .....even angels .....

    Psalms 103:20 ....ye HIS ANGELS ......

    Romans 8:29 ...conformed to the IMAGE of HIS SON ....

    Luke 20:36 Neither can they died anymore, for they are EQUAL to the ANGELS (Christ being the angel of the Lord, and they were resurrected in his image), and are the children of God, being the children of the RESURRECTION.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jordyn,

    As you asked, (I like you try to keep comment short). I claim to know nothing and when I go to the Bible, I do my best to not take anything with me with my head empty and my ears open. Dan. 10:13 Michael is one of the chief princes, how many there are we have not been told but Michael is the only one who is named, Jude, 1:9 Gabriel may also be an archangel. We have not been told all the hierarchy in heaven but there is only one Jesus who is above all that is in heaven and earth, Matt. 28:18.

    Jesus is the only one, the only begotten Son, John 3:16, the king of kings and Lord of Lords Rev. 19:16. All the angels including all the archangels/princes were made to worship Jesus Hebrews 1:6. As the angel told John Rev. 19:10, angels are not worthy of worship. Revelation of Jesus given to Him by God that Jesus signified it by Jesus's angel to His servant John Rev. 1:1. Is Jesus's angel the same as we see in the OT, the angel of the Lord?

    Jesus is not one of the archangels, He is the only begotten Son of God whom our Father sent into the world and who shed His blood for us, and only through his blood, we have the forgiveness of our sins.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Bear in mind, archangel means "over the angels", doesn't mean an angel. Chief messenger, so to speak. When Christ returns, the shout of the archangel is a reference to a military command in which all of the angels obey the order of the Chief. Matthew 13:39.. the reapers are the angels.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Alex Palace:

    Yes, Christ is the arch angel. Christ is the angel of the Lord, of the Old Testament, Christ is the fire that appeared in the burning bush, Christ is the rock in the wilderness that provided water for his children, Christ is the word that that brings TRUTH and LIFE to his children.

    Christ is the great I AM.

    God BLESS YOY!



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