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  • Oseas - 11 months ago
    JESUS left so clear, saying: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:18

    So, in this current millennium, the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day, all things in whole world are under JESUS's control, nothing random happens, understand?

    Matthew 25:31-34 and 41&46

    31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels(true believers- Luke 20:35-36.Take a look) with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory:

    32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another(this will be literally be fulfilled from now on), as a shepherd divideth His sheep from the goats:

    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

    34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world: ( Revelation 11:15-18. Take a look.)

    41 Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels(messengers):

    46 And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT: but the righteous into life ETERNAL.

    The EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT was previously determined to start in this current time, precisely in this beginning of the seventh and last millennium, so it will NEVER END from now on, it's for EVER.

    When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the DESOLATION thereof is nigh. Woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in these days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and WRATH upon the people. These are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

    Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory- Luke 21:26-27.
  • Jajaz458 - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Hello everyone.

    And Shalom. I think maybe everyone should reel it in a bit and read James CH 1.

    realize that without God we are nothing, with Him we are still nothing. We have our being through Him on a daily basis.

    Be thankful for His kindness.... that He alone is allowing you to have, even till the next minute of breath you take. Before he decides to take that very next breath you have away.

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God NOT you be careful of how you are using the scripture.

    Everyone knows who is the evil one(s) who pervert the scriptures.

    Remember Paul and Elymas? You could have people here wanting to learn of The Messiah don't get in the way of that with your words.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jajaz458:

    Why would you say we are NOTHING.

    John 17:22 And the glory that thou gave me, I have given them, that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE.

    I don't think you understand what happened at the resurrection of Christ.

    God Bless you with eyes to see.
  • Jajaz458 - In Reply - 11 months ago
    I think maybe what I stated flew over your head. Gal 6, 3

    on top of that till the day you die, it will be the The Lord Christ that The Most High sees concerning you.

    Your human nature is SIN if you understand that than you would know you are (Nothing) hence James CH 1, and that every moment you breath it is Christ that The Most High sees. You must be hearing the Lord telling you now (THOU GOOD and FAITHFUL SERVANT).......pretty prideful to say anything good comes from man, after the WORD itself states there is NONE GOOD NOT ONE!

    Mat 19:17

    And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

    Mar 10:18

    And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

    Psa 53:3

    Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

    Jer 4:22

    For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

    I will give you some encouragement though Galatians CH 6 vs 12-16.

    If you choose to acknowledge the fact, ( John 3 vs 19)

    Eph 2:8

    For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    1Co 7:7

    For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

    1Th 4:9

    But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

    Jhn 6:44

    No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    So anyway I get what you are saying, The Most High drew us to Himself but its no excuse to think us as something when we are NOTHING! Because He would never step on your will to choose Its because of His Grace and Kindness that we are even existing.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jajaz458:

    Like I said, you don't understand what happened at Christ's resurrection.

    You DIED on the cross with Christ.

    Christ ONLY was raised.

    You were made JOINT HEIRS with Christ, you and Christ were MADE ONE.

    YOU have no free will, your DEAD, only the NEW CREATION exist.

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit in you, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and keep my judgements and DO THEM.

    Your right, God only sees Christ and his righteousness, you being a JOINT HEIR.

    Now, are you nothing, or has Christ's resurrection made you SOMETHING.

    Proverbs 8:19 MY FRUIT is better than gold,yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than than choice silver.

    God BLESS YOU!

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Jajaz458 - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Thanks for the reply Jordyn, and the iron you bring for the sharpening.

    Tell me something.. Read Romans CH 7, and tell me your thoughts. I am curios of what you will come with.

    Also check out Rev 14,12 and if you choose just start at ch 14 and continue reading through from there till the end.

    All you speak of has a process that The Most High Himself has put in place. We are not something until The Most High says that we are, otherwise there would be no judgement from The Holy Father. 1 COR ch1 1-9

    I appreciate the dialogue its exciting.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jajaz458:

    I takes the whole word of God to understand any part of the word.

    Romans 7

    It takes other truths in God's to understand Romans 7.

    If ones does not believe other truths in the word then he want understand Romans 7.

    One truth that always has to be applied to any scriptures we study in the word IS:

    Hebrews 4:3 .... the WORKS were finished from the foundation of the world ......

    Revelation 13:8 ... the LIFE of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world .....

    Matthew 25:34 ..... the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world .....

    Matthew 13:35 .... things which have been keep secret from the foundation of the world ....

    So, all this, the WORKS being done before the foundation, we come to this truth:

    Hebrews 4:2 ... unto them was the GOSPEL PREACHED, as well as UNTO US ...

    One of the truths of the gospel is your sins are forgiven, therefore their sins were forgiven from the foundation of the world.

    The prophets declared this to them as well as us:

    Psalms 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our SINS from us.

    They didn't BELIEVE, as most today don't BELIEVE these words of God, God has not seen our sins from the foundation of the world.

    So, what is this SIN that kept THEM and KEEPS us from God: his word tells us:

    Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of UNBELIEF.

    So, what's God's solution for UNBELIEF and the mystery keep secret from the foundation of the world.

    The SPIRIT of TRUTH, pour out on man at pentecost.

    John 16:8 When he is come, he will REPROVE the world of SIN ....

    John 16:9 .....of SIN, because they BELIEVE NOT ......

    You can believe in God, and yet, NOT BELIEVE his words.

    1 Peter 1:23 You are BORN AGAIN, by the WORDS of God ....

    I'm out of characters.

    Meditate on these truths and we will continue on to Romans 7.

    God BLESS YOU!

    John

    John
  • Jajaz458 - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Heb 6:1

    Therefore, leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

    Heb 6:2

    Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

    Key about GOD' WORD is, it is marked through with His plan of SALVATION from beginning to end. (Foundation of the world). Key word salvation No secret.

    Heb 6:3

    And this will we do, if God permit.

    Heb 6:4

    For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

    Heb 6:5

    And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

    Heb 6:6

    If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame.

    So, it is impossible to fall away? The Lord Christ cannot be crucified again in the eyes of THE Most High?

    Jas 2:19

    Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

    Are the devils trembling because they BELIEVE OR UNBELIEVE?

    Isa 28:9

    Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk and drawn from the breasts.

    Isa 28:10

    For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little

    2Ti 2:15

    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
  • Jema - In Reply - 11 months ago
    :) you always give me something good to think about , thank you .
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 11 months ago
    I think the 1,000 years will be the seventh day. It will be the sabbath rest of creation. Thinking we are still in the sixth day. No way to "prove" any of that of course, it is conjecture when it comes to that reasoning.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Rainwalker:

    Christ was resurrected the sixth day, we are in the seventh day.

    The NEW CREATION was finished at this resurrection, we were all raised the BODY of Christ, we are in the seventh day, God has ceased from his works.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Jema - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Yes I also believe that the true Sabbath is to come , it's the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth , it seems so close now :) . Like everyone I'm mortified by the horrific bloodshed in the middle East but it does seem as if there's worse to come . Zechariah talks a lot about this , fearful sights in the sky ( rockets ? mushroom clouds ? ) . I believe we Christians will be on earth to witness all these things , I'm not dogmatic about it , I'm willing to say I could be wrong , if there is a pre trib rapture then it seems that we might need to start putting our houses in order and getting our coats and shoes on ! How does everyone else feel about recent events ? I'm going to say something controversial now.....I can hardly contain my excitement , my heart is at bursting point and I'm talking to all my family and friends about the return of Christ . I feel so sad and distressed by the bloodshed but my over riding emotion is excitement and joy . I know that sounds awful but I really can't help it , I can't stop smiling and talking about Christ . I have to consciously reign myself in ! What do others think / feel ?
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Rainwalker

    Brother, I will try to explain in a few words the Biblical Chronology

    Based in the Word of God, on GOD's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, so MANKIND would go through six GOD Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

    According biblical Chronology, starting by Genesis 5, as follow:

    Adam lived .....................130 yrs and begat Seth

    Seth lived .....105 yrsand begatEnosh;

    Enosh lived .........................90yrsand begatKenan;

    Kenanlived..........................70yrsand begatMahalalel;

    Mahalalellived .....................65yrsand begatJared;

    Jaredlived .........................162yrs and begatEnoch;

    Enochlived ..........................65yrsand begatMethuselah;

    Methuselahlived..................187yrsand begatLamech;

    Lamechlived.......................182yrsand begatNoah;

    FromNoahs birthuntilthe Flood....600 yrs.

    Total of years fromAdam tothe Flood = 1656 yrs

    Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of GOD,Let us study the times until our days by the Word of GOD-the Word is GOD.So,see the timetable below:

    SIX PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ------------------- DURATION

    I - From Adam to the Flood-( Genesis 5)--------------1656 years

    II - From the Flood to Abraham-( Genesis 11&12)-----427years

    III - From Abraham to Exodus-(Gal.3:17)--------------430 years

    IV-From Exodus to king Saul-(1Reis6:1(480-84)-------396 years

    V -From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem -------------------508 years

    VI -From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus -----------------587 years

    Thus,from Adam to the 1stcoming of Jesus ---------4004years

    From Jesus to our days(Christian Calendar)----------2023years

    Total from Adam to our days --------------------------6027years

    So,we are living in the beginning of the seventh millennium
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas, might I suggest another possibility concerning "time management", not to be "argumentative" in any way either. Matthew 1:17.. "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations, and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations, and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations. Just a thought.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas:

    As good as the KJV is, the New Testament is still a translation of the original Greek.

    The words translated everlasting, eternal, forever, and world; in a few places, would more correctly have been translated AGE, or for the AGE, or of the age.

    So, although time does not really exist, God does all his WORK in AGES, now and those to come.

    Christ is IMMORTAL LIFE, in all AGES, there is yet more to come.

    Ephesians 2:7 .... that in the ages to come .....

    Same Greek work translated other places as eternal, everlasting, forever, world in some places.

    If I am incorrect, perhaps our brother in Greece, brother Giannis, will give us a correct translation.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jordyn

    What does the Word of GOD say? 2Peter 3:8 - 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.

    So, what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, self-executing, understand?

    We should know that 6000 years after Adam are pointing midnight at GOD's clock, so it is the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day, and Day of GOD's rest, so it is the END of the sixth and beginning of the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day. But actually have already passed around 23 years, something like minites at GOD's clock.

    Wake up, be careful, and get ready - Matthew 25:6. Take a look.

    Lord JESUS will return in the day 1335 of this current millennium according the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, self-executing.

    Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand- Daniel 12:10.

    If the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle? 1 Corinthians 14:8
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas:

    Time doesn't exist in God's realm, no beginning and no end.

    One day is as a thousand years, that is symbolic, one day could also be as a million years.

    It's just ONE DAY, TODAY.

    Christ was resurrected and it became TODAY; the day of salvation, then, in our time frame, tomorrow, AGAIN, became TODAY the day of SALVATION, over and over for the last 2000 years, It's ALWAYS, TODAY the day of salvation, no beginning and no end.

    Ephesians 3:21 ...... through out all AGES ......WORLD WITHOUT END ......

    Ecclesiastes 1:9 The thing that hath been, is that which SHALL BE; and that which is done is that which SHALL BE DONE, there is NO NEW THING under the sun.

    Hebrews 4:3 For we which have BELIEVED do enter in to REST (the Sabbath) .....the WORKS were FINISHED from the foundation of the world.

    TODAY, the DAY of SALVATION, world without end.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jordyn

    You are saying"a thousand years is symbolic" by ignorance,Peter Apostle previously warned to be not ignorant as you manifest yourself be. To speak of the Word of GOD -the Word is GOD - , first of all it is necessary to have the Spirit of GOD, understand? The natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of GOD, neither CAN HE KNOW THEM,because they are spiritually discerned.

    You said"one day could also be as a million years",but according to the Word of GOD what you said it is FAKE,a misleading interpretation contradicting what the Holy Spirit said by Peter Apostole- 2Peter 3:8, and also contradicting what Moses said in his pray to the Lord GOD- Psalm 90:4- ,saying:"a THOUSAND YEARS in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past".Yeah, the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD:neither can he know them,because they are spiritually discerned.

    Your thinking is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective.Your interpretation and misleading message is similar or even the same as Genesis 3:1,and is good for nothing,if not for it exclusively be burned with everlasting fire.

    The kingdoms of THIS CURRENT DEVIL' s WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ, - Revelation 11:15- , and the dragon, that old serpent,which is the Devil and Satan,he will be chained,and will be cast down,even in this current millennium,into the bottomless pit for a thousand years,that he should deceive the nations no more,till the thousand years should be fulfilled.

    I saw thrones,and Judgment was given unto them that were sat upon the thrones:I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of JESUS,and for the Word of GOD,and they will live and reign with Christ a THOUSAND YEARS.The rest of the dead will not live again until the thousand years be finished.And when the thousand years expire,Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas:

    May the spirit of truth CAUSE YOU to understand.

    The DAY of the Lord has been on earth for about 2000 years NOW, the angels have been harvesting the SEED for about 2000.

    That harvested SEED is in the 1000 year NOW, some SEED have been there NOW for about 2000 years, some were harvested TODAY, that's less than a 1000 years.

    The 1000 years, in God's eyes is ONE DAY, TODAY, the Day of the Lord, you are birthed into the IMAGE OF CHRIST.

    In the twinkling of an eye you are HARVESTED and PUT ON CHRIST, whether it was 2000 years ago are today, it's both the same to God.

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jordyn

    First of all, to speak by the Spirit of Truth - GOD is the Truth - it is necessary, first of all, to have the Spirit of Truth.

    What you have learned and wrote in your post is not true, but fake. The followers of devilish Catholicism of the RCC, which rides upom the MAN Beast of sea, and the followers of the esoteric, and spiritist doctrines, among other devilish religions, they are blind guided by blinds, and according to the Word of GOD they will be cast in the the blackness of darkness for ever from now on.

    Matthew 22:11-14KJV

    11 And when the King came in to see the guests, He saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

    12 And He saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?

    13 Then said the King to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas:

    You were WED to Christ at his resurrection, he is your wedding garment, you were raised HIS BODY.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jordyn

    Reading your posts unto me, I remember Acts 16:16-18KJV : "It came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, and the same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high GOD, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her".
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jordyn

    I receive not testimony from man. He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth.

    Your words mean nothing, they are good for nothing, they are insignificant, in fact a trap that sounds surreptitiously from a disguised and cunning spirit. I receive not honour from men.

    What matters and prevails is what is written the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD - John 1:1- , self-executing, understand?
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Oseas:

    I don't expect you to believe my words.

    I said to you: YOU ARE the Body of Christ.

    Here is God's word:

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ..... ye are the body of christ .....

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jordyn

    I receive not testimony from man. I receive not honour from men.

    What matters and prevails is what is written the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD - John 1:1- , self-executing, don't you understand?



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