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The manchild in Revelation, 144,000. The woman in is the City (Am I getting this right?)
Revelation 12:2-6 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
Matthew 24 13-16 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. (Before the end, and start of Tribulation) (Jesus goes from signs of the end to speaking of when Daniel mentions the 'antichrist' stands in the holy place. (let them that are 'in Judaea') 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
End From a primary tello (to set out for a definite point or goal); properly, the point aimed at as a limit, i.e. (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state (termination (literally, figuratively or indefinitely), result (immediate, ultimate or prophetic), purpose); specially, an impost or levy (as paid)
144,000 in Revelation, the ones who get the Name of God on their heads sealed to go into the Trumpet judgements. Rev 4:1 -- Rev 19:11-21 is the Tribulation period. As for the Dragon (satan), Beast (antichrist) and beast out of the sea 10 kingdoms John saw literally but was a figurative representation of those 10 kingdoms. (4th beast meaning within in the old roman empire territory. he will get 10 kingdoms in that area, won't go beyond what the the word says) I take what John saw and described literally until it can not be possible then its a figurative truth, but still the truth just figuratively speaking. Like I take Gen 1:1 literal as most of the Bible. Army out of the abyss and its description, is literally what they will look like. I asked if the woman was the city during tribulation, because I wasn't sure. But I am convinced now that the woman is the city. I was rebuked and told I was into that 'once saved always saved' doctrine because I mentioned Grace from God will remain before during and after tribulation. (Not that I want to take be here for it, just mentioned what the Bible says. I have tried to reach out to Pastor, but haven't received any response. Where I am going with this i dont know. But I love you in Christ and as Christ loves us. Lets us never quarrel though, it's about who is wrong and helping that person get it right. But the person who is wrong gots to take advice (be willing to take correction we love each other and want the same for each other and that goes for me.)
Let us continue with this, no condemnation but yet no conprimising amen. Thank you Jordyn and God in the Name of Jesus Christ I pray for us all to continue to uplift each other. There are many false teachers indeed, no 'rapture' or pre trib post trib. REV 1:19 is the key to reading it, seen (1:1-18), which are (2,3/7 letters to churches in Johns time and the church today I apply it to. and the things which shall be hereafter 4:1 -22. So 4:1 is all future events.
The 144,000 are the Old Testament saints raised with Christ at his resurrection, they were made ONE FLESH with Christ at his resurrection..... Matthew 27:52-53 ..... Jerusalem is the New Jerusalem, the city of God.
The woman is YOU and Christ, the city is YOU and Christ, the temple is YOU and Christ.
The man child is YOU and Christ.
You were made ONE FLESH at his resurrection.
Revelation 12:1 And there APPEARED a great wonder in STEWART; STEWARD clothed with the Spirit of God (light), and CHRIST (God's faithful witness in heaven: IN STEWART), and upon STEWART'S HEAD a crown of twelve stars (the ministering spirits of the 12 tribes of OLD, the resurrected saints).
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in STEWART, and behold a great red dragon (of the sea) .....
Revelation 12:9 .... that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, WHICH DECEIVES the whole world .....
Revelation is a revealing of Jesus Christ and THOSE who believe they were MADE ONE FLESH with Christ, by his resurrection.
It's symbolic, make Revelation apply TO YOU, and be BORN AGAIN by the words of God.
Revelation 12:2-6 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
Matthew 24 13-16 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. (Before the end, and start of Tribulation) (Jesus goes from signs of the end to speaking of when Daniel mentions the 'antichrist' stands in the holy place. (let them that are 'in Judaea') 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
End From a primary tello (to set out for a definite point or goal); properly, the point aimed at as a limit, i.e. (by implication) the conclusion of an act or state (termination (literally, figuratively or indefinitely), result (immediate, ultimate or prophetic), purpose); specially, an impost or levy (as paid)
Let us continue with this, no condemnation but yet no conprimising amen. Thank you Jordyn and God in the Name of Jesus Christ I pray for us all to continue to uplift each other. There are many false teachers indeed, no 'rapture' or pre trib post trib. REV 1:19 is the key to reading it, seen (1:1-18), which are (2,3/7 letters to churches in Johns time and the church today I apply it to. and the things which shall be hereafter 4:1 -22. So 4:1 is all future events.
The 144,000 are the Old Testament saints raised with Christ at his resurrection, they were made ONE FLESH with Christ at his resurrection..... Matthew 27:52-53 ..... Jerusalem is the New Jerusalem, the city of God.
The woman is YOU and Christ, the city is YOU and Christ, the temple is YOU and Christ.
The man child is YOU and Christ.
You were made ONE FLESH at his resurrection.
Revelation 12:1 And there APPEARED a great wonder in STEWART; STEWARD clothed with the Spirit of God (light), and CHRIST (God's faithful witness in heaven: IN STEWART), and upon STEWART'S HEAD a crown of twelve stars (the ministering spirits of the 12 tribes of OLD, the resurrected saints).
Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in STEWART, and behold a great red dragon (of the sea) .....
Revelation 12:9 .... that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, WHICH DECEIVES the whole world .....
Revelation is a revealing of Jesus Christ and THOSE who believe they were MADE ONE FLESH with Christ, by his resurrection.
It's symbolic, make Revelation apply TO YOU, and be BORN AGAIN by the words of God.
God Bless YOU!
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