Bible Discussion Thread

Church vs home churching considerations.

Another irony I have seen is that there was a rather strict adherence to the London Baptist confession (1600s) when I was in the home study; yet my current church where I am a member has no regular doctrinal statement it adheres to. It seems from my experience that there is a wild swing from those in Reformed circles; who often read every week from the Westminster confession and those elsewhere who only seem to discuss it when someone wants to be a new church member. Such a doctrinal stance I would expect normally would be lacking in home churches. The advantage of a home church is that people usually know each other pretty well and in depth interactions help to clarify what the consensus is in regard to doctrine. The home study I did attend was run by someone that had a seminary degree; although he didn't want to teach formally in churches due to his strong Calvanistic stance at least in part. There were occasional visits to those in family and acquaintances who preached in local churches; however. Another advantage in being there was discussion of the workplace and others we knew; whether family or friends so that regular prayers for their souls would come up. There is less room there for cliques to develop.

My current church is probably like many others where there is a network; mainly of women who are involved socially and caring for the needs of elderly "shut in" individuals. That is commendable compared with some churches in that regard; since our pastor doesn't need to push people to do things in that regard. There is still; especially among men a sort of rugged individualism. I have found some people if you give a listening ear really open up; but perhaps it takes something such as the fracture of a marriage for people to open up enough to disuss such matters (or in the case of one man his disfunctional family and sins with his kids he is grieving about). We all need to be open to those in need.

Hi Momsage,

Sure, I understand the need to be cautious. That is commendable. If you ever feel like sharing your specific concern, I'd be willing to listen. Maybe I can help clear any misunderstanding.

I will say that they are Protestant, and the church was begun by a group of people who were of other assorted Protestant denominations. They had come together in the mid 1800s on the common point of Christ's return to earth. (His Advent). And, because they worship on the seventh day of the week, Saturday, that's how they acquired the rest of their name.

Anyway, thanks for reaching out.

There is significant danger in believing that dead people are ghosts floating around and aware of what's going on.

1, It leads to consulting the dead ( Demons impersonating our dead relatives) . The Catholics pray to dead saints. Dead people!

2. The Catholic system of purgatory leads people to believe that they can live like the devil and get a second chance in purgatory. And, the Vatican made a fortune getting people to pay to get dead relatives out of purgatory. Huge scam.

3. When Jesus was on the mount of transfiguration, Moses and Elijah were there in their physical bodies. Moses had had a special resurrection. ( the devil argued over his body). Elijah didn't die but was carried away in the chariot.

4. When Jesus told the thief "I tell you today you will be with me in paradise". They didn't use commas in Hebrew. So, it depends where the comma is placed. " I tell you today, you will be with be in paradise". Not " I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

There's more but I'll stop here.

In these last days, it is nearly impossible to find a church of sound doctrine.

1.Every church believes that when a person dies, their soul continues.No. The Bible clearly teaches that the soul falls asleep until resurrection day. Spiritism, seances, praying to Mary, praying to dead relatives "watching over you" is all doctrine of devils.

2. The sabbath is SATURDAY!

3. Protestant churches are aligning with the pope. They are no longer protesting!

4. There are sneaky things brought into churches, like "spiritual reformation " which sounds great on the face of it, but is actually anti Christ.

Be careful to not be deceived. Question everything. Is it a doctrine of man?

I agree with everything you've said, including the comment that Saturday is the Sabbath and should be our day of "rest", in keeping with the 4th commandment. I don't believe this commandment was done away with by Jesus. but I wonder why make a doctrine out of whether we sleep until the resurrection or go straight to heaven? It has no bearing on our salvation either way that I can see. If we are going to be with God for eternity either way, so again, why make a doctrine out of it?

Of course, there may be a deeper meaning that I admit I don't see. So may question is real.

I know that Jesus wants us to fellowship together but I am not able to do that because in the small town I live in there doesn't seem to be a group to fellowship with that is KJB only ( most us the NIV) oe that worship on Saturday that isn't full of false doctrines. So I worship at home.

My last pastor preached from the NIV and I followed along in my KJB and paid very close attention to what he was preaching. I didn't like doing it that way but he ((seemed) and the people were very loving and Godly so I didn't want to leave either until the pastor told me that he believed the KJB wasn't written by God. I left immediately.

I am glad I found this KJB only discussion group. You all seem to love the Lord Jesus as I do. God Bless

Hi, good for you to leave that church after the pastor said the KJV wasn't written by God! That is true discernment!

A South African Seventh Day Adventist pastor named Walter Veith has a great series on the subject of Bible translations . It is quite lengthy. It's on YouTube channel called, "Clash of Minds". On the homepage of that YouTube channel, you can find the series called " Total Onslaught". Specifically Videos #13 and #14.

The Total Onslaught series has 35 videos. They are all over an hour. Anyway, maybe Pastor Veith can be your pastor:). He is a comforting person to listen to and has quite a personal testimony. I listen to him and trust him.

I pray the peace of God cover you and bless you. :) much love in Christ. Amen!

Thank you for your reply in helping me find a pastor to listen to online, I really appreciate it. :) Unfortunately, the Seven Day Adventist Church teaches other doctrines that are very false and whether what is being preached to me at the time is correct or not, I believe I shouldn't struggle to have to decipher this preaching because, I believe, that is dangerous for my soul. I hope you understand. Have a blessed day.

Hi Momsage, I replied to you but I think under the wrong reply button. Anyway, let me know if I can help answer a question about the Protestant church, Seventh Day Adventist. And, I understand your caution. Blessings to you as well.