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I am convinced that one of the most commonly used and successful tactics the enemy uses to combat prayer is the cacophony of conversation that occurs prior to many church services while people grab a cup of coffee and a pastry. There is ALWAYS five or ten minutes when most church members and regular attenders are hanging out chatting about their relatives; friends; sports; work or other such stuff. It is sad to say that in the last three weeks I have heard NOTHING discussed about scripture or the Lord for that matter.
This is; admittedly me griping on the subject but this has happened repeatedly in my exprience in other houses of worship and I am sure others can relate. I have found that with some effort you can flesh out something meaningful; sometimes profound about someone's background in ministry or current personal struggles. It is harder; again from what I have observed to be able to steal a minute or two with someone to pray about something. This morning I had several folks who I told that I would pray for (one whose husband is ill which I heard about in Sunday school; another who told me he was out of work with migranes).
In all this I would be remiss not mentioning that there are more than one parishioner there praying DAILY for my situation living at home with unbelieving parents. Those who are in a prayerful mindset often speak little in these settings; as they do not wish to be part of meaningless chatter; I would suspect.
2 Corinthians 4:7 talks of treasure in earthen vessels; but also that the power is of God and NOT of us. There is a time and place for all types of discussion; but corporate worship should be focused on the Lord. There are more; it seems who boast of their store of deadly weapons than who wield the spiritual ones (at least in conservative circles). If we do not learn how to effectively use a weapon it becomes useless. Let us therefore guard our hearts ( Prov. 4:23). Also read Ephesians 6.
The Bible says to come out from among them and not stay there in 2nd Cor 6:14-18 Many people always want to stay behind to see what happens. Just like Lot's wife, she was told not to turn around to see what happens to Sodom and Gomorrah and she became a pillar of salt. Just like watching a building burn down, many people want to see what happens. Just come out and be separate. People complain about their church and still keep going. Why? Because they were never taught to come out to separate. My parents are a fine example, complain about their church but they do not want to separate.
2nd Cor 6:[14] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
[15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
[17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
[18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
2nd Cor 7:1] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Rev 18:4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
[5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Jeremiah 5:26] For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.
[27] As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.
I just started using this site so you may have already explained the notation on this discussion but I was wondering why you have noted that none of the 2 Corinthians verses you used, noted they were not in the bible?
I get all my teachings from the book from the bible. Don't know what you are talking about as the verses I use the churches refuse to talk about them or dare preach on them because it will expose them who they are.
Jeremiah 23:[9] Mine heart within me is broken because of the prophets; all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome, because of the LORD, and because of the words of his holiness.
[10] For the land is full of adulterers; for because of swearing the land mourneth; the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up, and their course is evil, and their force is not right.
[11] For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the LORD.
[12] Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery ways in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evil upon them, even the year of their visitation, saith the LORD.
I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply you don't follow God's word; the KJB. Maybe you don't realize that the links on your 2 Corthians verses all say "* no matching KJB text." That was what I was asking about. I'm sure it's my misunderstanding.
Yes the bible does warn us of many false prophets teaching many false doctrines. As true believers we must be willing to diligently keep Christ and His true word formost in our hearts and lives and trust the inspiration of the Holy Spirit is infallible. That's why I feel blessed in finding this group of KJB only believers. Please have a blessed day.
Hi Momsage. About your concern on "no matching KJB text": if a contributor writes out a Scripture reference that this KJBO Site engine doesn't recognize, then you will get that warning. Quite some time ago, KJBO put out information on what were the acceptable ways of writing Scripture (sorry, I can't find that information now). But in the case of " 2nd Cor 6:[14]", this wouldn't be acceptable because of the brackets used. I always spell the verse/passage out in full (even though it takes up more character spaces), e.g. 2 Corinthians 6:14, as I know the reader can just hover the pointer over the reference to see it rather than go to the Bible verse. Hope that helps sort this out for you.
I was preaching 2nd Cor 6 &7. We have to come out of the churchs to be a seperate people. Come out from among them.
2nd Cor 6:14] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
[15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
[17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
[18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
2nd Cor 7:1] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Everyone is different, though. For some catching a chat with a church member before service may just make someone's day when otherwise, the busyness of the work week doesn't allow people to meet up.
For me, I have always liked to come and find a seat and open my Bible to read a bit, and pray a bit, preparing for service. This always helps me.
I do notice how quickly people leave after church. It is only a matter of 5-10 minutes before the parking lot is empty. So, People don't linger long after worship. I wish there was more reason for people to linger a bit and fellowship. After an early service, people may leave quickly to get to a Sunday School class. But during the later morning service there is not Sunday School.
For me, I would love to be part of a church that has both services, Sunday School in between and a potluck lunch after second service so that there can be time for fellowshipping.
But I doubt I will find such a situation in my living area that teaches sound doctrine, and works at keeping worldliness out of the Sunday time of worship and fellowship. It is just the times we live in, I guess.
I'm sorry, my mistake, but I don't seem to be able to say what I mean clearly. I understand and agree with what you are teaching in these comments wholeheartedly. What I was asking you was, why in your comments when the 2 Corinthians verses are highlighted in red so you can place your cursor on it and it gives you the whole verse the link doesn't give the verse but says there's no text of those verses in the KJB which, of course, they are.. Maybe you can't see it but even in this last reply it does it. I know you don't mean for it to, but it's basically saying those verses are not in the KJB. I won't bother you anymore with this. I do admire what you have said in your comments that these people in the world are evil and we are to keep ourselves separate from them. Thank you for your patience. :)
I understand now, thanks to Chris, why your scripture reference was saying there was no text for that scripture. It is just because of the way you typed out the reference. Here is what Chris told me:
Chris - in Reply
Hi Momsage. About your concern on "no matching KJB text": if a contributor writes out a Scripture reference that this KJBO Site engine doesn't recognize, then you will get that warning. Quite some time ago, KJBO put out information on what were the acceptable ways of writing Scripture (sorry, I can't find that information now). But in the case of " 2nd Cor 6:[14]", this wouldn't be acceptable because of the brackets used. I always spell the verse/passage out in full (even though it takes up more character spaces), e.g. 2 Corinthians 6:14
, as I know the reader can just hover the pointer over the reference to see it rather than go to the Bible verse. Hope that helps sort this out for you.
I am convinced that one of the most commonly used and successful tactics the enemy uses to combat prayer is the cacophony of conversation that occurs prior to many church services while people grab a cup of coffee and a pastry. There is ALWAYS five or ten minutes when most church members and regular attenders are hanging out chatting about their relatives; friends; sports; work or other such stuff. It is sad to say that in the last three weeks I have heard NOTHING discussed about scripture or the Lord for that matter.
This is; admittedly me griping on the subject but this has happened repeatedly in my exprience in other houses of worship and I am sure others can relate. I have found that with some effort you can flesh out something meaningful; sometimes profound about someone's background in ministry or current personal struggles. It is harder; again from what I have observed to be able to steal a minute or two with someone to pray about something. This morning I had several folks who I told that I would pray for (one whose husband is ill which I heard about in Sunday school; another who told me he was out of work with migranes).
In all this I would be remiss not mentioning that there are more than one parishioner there praying DAILY for my situation living at home with unbelieving parents. Those who are in a prayerful mindset often speak little in these settings; as they do not wish to be part of meaningless chatter; I would suspect.
2 Corinthians 4:7 talks of treasure in earthen vessels; but also that the power is of God and NOT of us. There is a time and place for all types of discussion; but corporate worship should be focused on the Lord. There are more; it seems who boast of their store of deadly weapons than who wield the spiritual ones (at least in conservative circles). If we do not learn how to effectively use a weapon it becomes useless. Let us therefore guard our hearts ( Prov. 4:23). Also read Ephesians 6.
2nd Cor 6:[14] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
[15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
[17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
[18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
2nd Cor 7:1] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Rev 18:4] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
[5] For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Jeremiah 5:26] For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.
[27] As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.
I just started using this site so you may have already explained the notation on this discussion but I was wondering why you have noted that none of the 2 Corinthians verses you used, noted they were not in the bible?
Jeremiah 23:[9] Mine heart within me is broken because of the prophets; all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome, because of the LORD, and because of the words of his holiness.
[10] For the land is full of adulterers; for because of swearing the land mourneth; the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up, and their course is evil, and their force is not right.
[11] For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the LORD.
[12] Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery ways in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evil upon them, even the year of their visitation, saith the LORD.
Yes the bible does warn us of many false prophets teaching many false doctrines. As true believers we must be willing to diligently keep Christ and His true word formost in our hearts and lives and trust the inspiration of the Holy Spirit is infallible. That's why I feel blessed in finding this group of KJB only believers. Please have a blessed day.
The bottom of the Comment Guidelines page shows what parameters are used for the Bible verse links:
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Hopefully this is helpful. May God bless you!
KJBO
2nd Cor 6:14] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
[15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
[16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
[17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
[18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
2nd Cor 7:1] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
I know what you mean.
Everyone is different, though. For some catching a chat with a church member before service may just make someone's day when otherwise, the busyness of the work week doesn't allow people to meet up.
For me, I have always liked to come and find a seat and open my Bible to read a bit, and pray a bit, preparing for service. This always helps me.
I do notice how quickly people leave after church. It is only a matter of 5-10 minutes before the parking lot is empty. So, People don't linger long after worship. I wish there was more reason for people to linger a bit and fellowship. After an early service, people may leave quickly to get to a Sunday School class. But during the later morning service there is not Sunday School.
For me, I would love to be part of a church that has both services, Sunday School in between and a potluck lunch after second service so that there can be time for fellowshipping.
But I doubt I will find such a situation in my living area that teaches sound doctrine, and works at keeping worldliness out of the Sunday time of worship and fellowship. It is just the times we live in, I guess.
Chris - in Reply
Hi Momsage. About your concern on "no matching KJB text": if a contributor writes out a Scripture reference that this KJBO Site engine doesn't recognize, then you will get that warning. Quite some time ago, KJBO put out information on what were the acceptable ways of writing Scripture (sorry, I can't find that information now). But in the case of " 2nd Cor 6:[14]", this wouldn't be acceptable because of the brackets used. I always spell the verse/passage out in full (even though it takes up more character spaces), e.g. 2 Corinthians 6:14
, as I know the reader can just hover the pointer over the reference to see it rather than go to the Bible verse. Hope that helps sort this out for you.
Blessings to you all
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