Bible Discussion Thread

I'm suffering from sever depression, I want more than anything to believe in god. I want to find some sort of meaning in life. I'm just so lost, I don't know where to turn. I want nothing more than guidance. Can you give me any reason to turn to god? Any reasons to turn away from science and logic and accept god?

Thank you for any help or advice,

Andrew V.

Dear Andrew, I will be praying for you in your situation. My 2 sons also suffer from severe depression and are seeking to get the best treatments that will being greatest success. I can tell you this, that God hears our cries for help. He knows all that is going on in our lives. He cares for every person He has made. So, the simple act of praying to Him as one who is unsure of His existence or whether He would help you is still a valid prayer. Tell Him that you do not know if He is truly the only God that is alive for us to turn to asking for God to help You to believe. Tell Him that you are in such need and that you are unsure if He will help You, but ask Him as one who sees that God is your last and only hope in life. These are honest deep prayers that God hears. He will help you, I can say for sure because He has helped me in times of great distress throughout my life.

Andrew, sincerely, I will pray for you when I pray for my sons, as I do so almost daily. let me know how you are doing on this journey that is so difficult now.

Andrew,

You and I are children when compared to God who is eternal. So we simply take him on trust. Take one day at a time. Ask him to take you by the hand and let not circumstances distract you but to hold the assurance that we are here for a purpose. You have depression and I am half blind but so far I have not felt abandoned but simply got on with my life and do thing pleasing in my Father's eyes. If we could manage tomorrow to do whatever needs be done continue tomorrow. It is a little more easier. It is thus I have managed. Take God on his trust. What you need is the trust that your heavenly Father sees what you require and accordingly take you around by hand. Above all child-like trust: God is good.

May God bless you,

Hi Andrew. I could give you scripture references, tho one who has not yet submitted to God, Yahweh, can't get it, until they have a reason to give in. I feel you are at this point and by my life experience of what it's like, to get it is simply a child like giving up for which ever reason ends up having you at this point right now, is a good thing and is now time to give up and like a child, and admit it's all to much and you now need daddy, Yahweh and I call him abbadaddyto take over and work inside you what know you don't yet have. it's really as simple in telling God in sincerity and with a begging thought, i want it, show me and I'll just do it.that I'm tired , I'm hurtin and I'm ready to to it "your way".. then! And only then, not necessarily by goishie feelings but by a mind change to do things Gods way a person will soon see and know dad ( Yahweh) can work in your mind ( your inner being.,your soul..) and a peace and understanding can begin to grow and prepare you to be one of "his" and work through, what is the holy wind. ruach Ha Quodesh ( Holy Spirit )to change what you think you know and what you've been doing, which is preparing us to live forever with Him in the " kingdom" he is getting ready for us and actually live, walk and talk in that place forever with him and others who have done this life.. His way. make the commitment first and mean it. open a bible on this app and I suggest a KJV version and in your soul ask as you read for his spirit to open your mind to begin to and hear this spirit of God begin to talk to you within yourself, read the whole books of Romans .again and again and each time you do more will become apparent and one becomes what messiah called being born again and you will as you "do" what it says.slowly have that knowing and peace that your in His hands to take care of you forever, tho, only if you "do" and keep on doing by willpower at Fiand know.. until it. Becomes a natural hunger.. I love telling you these things.Mark

Hello Andrew,

Thanks for sharing that. Have you tried to read the Bible before? Jesus really does offer hope and guidance.

As far as evidence of God, you stated it backwards. Science and logic confirm God, that's why there's so many highly educated people in science and medicine who believe in God. Many were atheists before. Just take a look at your hands, your skin, your arteries and veins that pump blood around your body, your nervous system that allows you to feel, your 3D vision, surround sound, water cooling, and heating system, digestive system, reproductive system, on and on. You are very complex and have a smartly designed body. Is it more likely that it was designed by an accident or designed intentionally? How often today do we see accidents design order? Is it more often than accidents that cause disorder? Science and the 2nd law of thermodynamics shows that with no intelligent input, things will resort to disorder and chaos. In this manner, science supports and basically proves the existence of intelligent design.

How often do you see buildings build themselves? Has science ever proven that 1 building ever built itself? Or a painting, has science ever proven that a single painting has painted itself- even an abstract one with a disordered design- I mean a brush was picked up, dipped in paint, and deliberately put on an upright canvas. It seems more likely that a painter is the one who painted the painting, not nothing. It would also seem more scientific to say that a builder is more likely the one who built a building, not nothing, and not an accidental explosion. Likewise, it seems more logical and scientific to say that a designer was the one who designed the design of the body. We're the most intelligent life on earth and we still marvel at the complexity, intelligence, and brilliance of the design of the human body, and of animals, and plants and creation. It would be unscientific to assume that a creator didn't create the creation.

Excellent post , thank you , I enjoyed and you are of course , totally correct . How complex is our vision ? Our circulatory system ? God is real , alive , in charge and with us all , all day every day . Thy Kingdom Come .

Thank you. Most of the points I've heard from evangelists like Ray Comfort. Frank Turek, etc. I believe atheism is a religion. It ignores scientific evidence and has a huge bias against an intelligent designer.