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  • Richard H Priday - 5 months ago
    How to study scripture (Part 3).

    Looking over the horizon I am suddenly made aware of the controversy; like today's earthquakes in our part of the country which if were over open water would cause a Tsunami (if they were a lot stronger). It seems necessary to navigate through the seas in regard to what VERSION of scripture we should use; but I will swim out far enough and; as with an undertow attempt to go sideways as not to be dragged under.

    Okay; facing it head on; I think most of us agree the KJV is the best study version of scripture to use; and I simply will leave all the aftershocks of the debate a couple months back about those dogmatic that it is the only inspired version of scripture for others to bring up as it seems inevitable that it will. I simply want to repeat that ancient Greek in particular has MORE THAN ONE descriptive adjective that can be used in English to get the full meaning thus it CANNOT be translated word for word without jumping around and causing much confusion. I will also say (risking the uproar) that sometimes other versions may have another word that helps to more clearly describe the original text. Now; if we can get past what I hope to be a 90 second event and move on....

    Other sources can be used (commentaries; concordances; history books; sermon readings and interpretations of scripture) but enough can usually be understood in the Bible that we have at least a fair comprehension of God's Word. His commands are not grievous ( 1 John 5:3) and that should also mean they aren't overly complex to understand; cumbersome or voluminous. The concept of loving God and our neighbor as ourself ( Mark 12:30-31) sums up the law and should be the primary motivation; mindset and state of our heart and soul when the love of Christ constrains us ( 2 Cor. 5:14-19).

    Starting with concordances; I am probably going to leave it to the audience to recommend the top ones. I have found some Bibles have cross references that are baffling.
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Mr. Priday, Qs..this is on a different subject however. I've been asked why I feel that anyone that reads & or follows any other book besides the Bible, are wrong. I remember reading that God's word is the only true word yet can't find it. If you know we're it is, please can you help me? Thnx, Texsis
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 5 months ago
    All glory goes to God; although I am glad if it is helpful. I am trying to promote reading of scriptures so always trying to find something new there. Gigi clearly has greater depth and more precise details related to historical context; a far better writer than I. My style is very swift with little if any preparation; although I have done a lot of thinking about things in my own life which I am able to rapidly assimilate.

    My gifting is in discernment and sadly I have still much softening needed in my heart and soul; partially due no doubt to the divorce I had to go through the better part of 10 years ago. My views against remarriage when a spouse is alive isn't something I'm going to push on this site but I know the Lord has given me another specific calling to warn others about the subject. It is risky mentioning this as there are some who I love in Christ who have been offended but I must speak what I believe He has given me to say.

    I suppose I could use prayer that I can somehow be bolder sharing on my job; although often I'm too busy working fast paced in my food service work. If the Lord tarries once my elderly parents (in their 90s) have passed then I probably will revert back to spending more of my time witnessing; so that is part of the reason I belt out so much stuff now; along with whatever writing talent the Lord has given me.

    I can only hope that as Daniel states some will shine as the stars in the sky (or firmament- Daniel 12:3) as a result of some message whether it is myself or someone else at this site or elsewhere. The true experience of being filled with the Spirit I contend is rare and you have to search like it for gold and eventually you will begin to be able to know when it is present.

    You will see it in others mainly; and is in a minority of professing believers. Again I appeal to the scriptures on running for the prize ( Philippians 3:3) and even Paul said it can be forfeited ( 1 Cor. 9:27; see also Revelation 3:11).
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Absolutely, All glory definitely should go to God.! Your right, I should have asked Gigi & normally I would yet I had just finished reading your responses to another & felt led to ask you. I greatly appreciate your response. If speaking to others about His word I believe we are to pray & God will guide our words, otherwise we, as mere humans, could say the wrong thing at wrong time. Been there done that. Not a good idea.

    What we do, especially before being saved, is all forgiven & He won't hold against us. All we go through strengthens us as we grow wiser in His word & for His purpose to lead others to Christ. Believers are guided by His spirit to speak His truth. That's His will for all.!

    So if He's calling you to do so please, don't be ashamed/worried what others will think or do. He is the one we are to fear. I regret one time He led me to talk to a lady & I shrugged it off. She passed away 3-4 days later. Now, when He leads me (especially w/my dreams) I follow through. Then I'm amazed by His work when 'said person' starts to change. Praise God.!

    Yet at work, I always speak in a way they know I'm a believer. i.e., saying Lord willing, God forbid, Jesus help me or even tell them "I will pray for you" or even wearing my TCU hat while driving the company truck (I live in midst of Mormons).! They are all seeds, God sows in His time.! Plus, I don't get involved in idol gossip & won't lie. I think you definitely have a God given talent & are blessed. Thnx again
  • GiGi - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Hello again Texsis,

    I was wondering how you are doing. are you still in Utah? have you been well? How is your son doing since you have been gone from his house. I8 am so glad that you came back on here to post. I love it when we can update with people on here. We care for one another here and I always think it is such a good thing to have met so many new believers since coming on this site. I look forward to hearing from you.
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    God is good. Love my City job. Absolutely. Will never leave Utah again. Well unless God finds me a Godly man in need of a Godly women.! My son isn't speaking to me. He needs prayer. Remember, last year, he said he could no longer deny Christ? Well, he may not be satanic anymore yet his belief system is out of wack. For one, he isn't for Trump, he wants to move to Brazil to get away from 5g towers (what ever that is) & he is a flat earther.! Prayers for sure. If your ever on YTube I go by Texsistwister. Yet only watch Godly sites for most part. Pray all's well w/you.!
  • GiGi - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Texsis

    Thanks for getting back to me. Glad to hear you are doing well in Utah.

    I would love to pray for your son. If you feel comfortable giving me his name, I would like that. Either way he will be in my prayers.
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    ChristOpher. I love typing it that way.! :) Thanks GiGi. I Prayed all's well w/y'all. Anything you want prayer for? Fixen to try & sleep. Thanks for prayers.! Good nigh & God bless always.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Hello Texsis.

    I have been thinking of you and praying for you. So glad to hear from you again.

    Here are some verses that may be helpful. The Lord will guide you in the verses to share with your riend.

    Ps . 31.5 Jn. 14:6

    Ps. 119:43 Gal. 2:5

    Is. 45:19 Eph.1:13

    Dan. 10:21 Col. 1:5

    James 1:18
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Awesome.. Isaiah 45 is what I needed. Your a blessing as always.! I listened to my sister & have only been concentrating on Romans thru Philimons last few yrs, Rightly Dividing His truth. Yet now, thnx to ppl like you (when I was in Texas), Voddie Baucham (on YT) & Mr. Priday, I'm learning so much more. Thank you thank you thank you & thank you Jesus for bringing these ppl in my life.! Fixen to recaulk the kitchen..God bless, Texsis
  • GiGi - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Texsis,

    You are certainly welcome. I am happy that the Lord led me to respond to your post.

    We all have some good things to contribute here and we can be prayerful about all that we post.

    Some things people post (me included) are encouraging, others make us think hard, others make us search the Scriptures more on a topic, and others can be convicting or make us uncomfortable. We may even be offended by some posts. But if we seek God and His wisdom we will get right direction from Him and help us to take what people write seriously and try to avoid being dismissive.

    I work hard at trying to remain objective as well as thinking the best of others, even if I am offended by what someone posts, I certainly try to be open for the input of the Spirit concerning interactions on here.

    I am glad you are back on here once again. I have been wondering about you and keeping you in my prayers. It is good to have a sweet sister like you. You bless me, too.
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Sweet, thnx. Will check them out for sure.!
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Hi Texsis,

    Books are to be read but understanding for two persons can differ. Satan used the scriptures but his motive was wrong. "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled." (Ti.1:15) "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."(Ph.4:8)

    Reading is to communicate. Do we hang out in the company of minds who are writing potboilers to feed their bellies or those who falsify intentionally what is true, and write for fame and fortune? I find it waste of time. Time is short so get the best out of your spare time. The Bible is the book of life.
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Thank you yet, Not sure we believe in the same thing cuz..#1. God's word is what it is. We, as believers, are to read, study & learn what He meant. So as not to twist things as so many "religions" do. The original languages the Bible was written in.. well, their words mean something different then our English language so, again, read His word, study what He meant it to be & learn for yourself, Not merely listening to others..#2. No one is pure, or ever can be, except Christ.! Or His DBR was in vain. #3. I too find most things in life a waist of time. I work, go to church or watch on computer, when can't go to a building & spend my spare time cooking, making toiletries, BBQ sauce & fresh animal food.! God comes first, ALWAYS.! If all of that is what you meant..praise God..if not, I shall pray you come to find the true Jesus Christ & go up w/the rapture & not have to deal w/hell on earth w/ the anti- Christ.! Yet whatever you do..DO NOT get the mark of the beast. It is the only sin God will not forgive, it's blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.! Yet if you read His word, you know all this.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 5 months ago
    The three points you make are sound. Serving God according to the grace given to me I serve in my 80+years. I work with more zeal because the word of God that I read as child,- and still read as the word meant for our spiritual food; so whatever insights I receive daily I share in this forum. I have a word ministry to which I am equally devoted. Am I looking for readers. No I am not. It is God to whom I am committed my life so I leave what is not in my control alone. Let every one looks to his/her own salvation.

    Joy and peace with Him, greetings
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Thank you very much.!
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 5 months ago
    I suppose today's scripture from Joshua 24:18 is as good a place as any to tackle that subject. As for the entire Bible as we have it today; there is no verse in scripture mentioning all the written texts as a whole; probably because they weren't complete yet.

    1 Corinthians 13:10 mentions things passing away when the partial is complete; or something to that affect. Revelation also has verses warning about not adding or subtracting which could mean adding to that book or all scripture. Since the written texts originally came from oratory (with the exception of the 10 Commandments originally penned by God Himself); God planned it out so that the scribes would count every LETTER of a scroll; and get rid of a copy to start again if it was even slightly off. 2 Timothy 3:16 explains that all scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching; reproof; etc.

    I have discussed in older posts a summation of the Apocrypha as to truths of historic or moral truths that are borrowed from true scripture; which always states "thus saith the Lord" except for places like Ruth and Esther; or Song of Solomon. God's truths are absolute; as we see from the claims of Christ's divinity; and the laws in the 10 Commandments. The repetitive themes such as scriptures being repeated again in the New Testament to enhance their true meanings bring a cohesiveness to the Bible. We also have such admonitions as 1 John 4:2 stating what any "spirit" testifies about Christ having come in the flesh.

    That would correlate with verses like Matthew 16:17 where it is clear that Christ's DIVINITY (as the "I am") can only be understood or revealed through the Spirit. I noticed that myself pre conversion it didn't enter my mind that Christ was God or part of the "Godhead". As our spirit testifies with "his Spirit"( Romans 8:16) that we are His children and His Word is truth the Lord will build our discernment of truth as we grow and mature in Him to know what is true (see also John 10:27).
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Awesome..between you & Gigi.

    I'll be busy studying a while. Love it. Nothing I'd rather do. God bless you Mr. Priday, as always your teachings help me to grow in His word. God bless, Texsis
  • Texsis - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Thank you so very much.!



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