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18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19In a little while the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you are in Me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him."
The question of the difference between the indwelling Spirit today permanently taking residence (as seen a bit further into this chapter in verse 23) and the time Jesus spoke these words to His Disciples in some sense doesn't seem to matter. He knew all those who would continue to follow and those (in particular Judas Iscariot) who would betray Him. I am firmly convinced that only those predestined to come to Christ will; and that repentance is given as a gift of God for those called and chosen.
That being said; we don't really understand these doctrines before our salvation experience so those doctrines don't make any more sense than the fact that God is in fact represented with Christ even though He appeared in the flesh of man. Therefore these definitions come to mind regarding saving faith.
Transaction: Our debts being paid make us no longer bound to this world; but bondservants of Christ. His ransom as our
Redeemer means that we are His chosen vessel to be used for His purposes. In political terms; it doesn't mean for us that we are in a Democracy; free to choose when we wish to follow our Master or turn back to follow the opposing Party (that is Satan).
Interaction: A free gift is offered; but not necessarily received or utilized by the potential recipient. We can do nothing to earn or deserve it; but we are responsible to follow the guidelines which the Spirit makes clear in the hearts of the truly faithful. This would; arguably mean that as Lord of the harvest fruit in us is demanded.
18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19In a little while the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you are in Me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him."
The question of the difference between the indwelling Spirit today permanently taking residence (as seen a bit further into this chapter in verse 23) and the time Jesus spoke these words to His Disciples in some sense doesn't seem to matter. He knew all those who would continue to follow and those (in particular Judas Iscariot) who would betray Him. I am firmly convinced that only those predestined to come to Christ will; and that repentance is given as a gift of God for those called and chosen.
That being said; we don't really understand these doctrines before our salvation experience so those doctrines don't make any more sense than the fact that God is in fact represented with Christ even though He appeared in the flesh of man. Therefore these definitions come to mind regarding saving faith.
Transaction: Our debts being paid make us no longer bound to this world; but bondservants of Christ. His ransom as our
Redeemer means that we are His chosen vessel to be used for His purposes. In political terms; it doesn't mean for us that we are in a Democracy; free to choose when we wish to follow our Master or turn back to follow the opposing Party (that is Satan).
Interaction: A free gift is offered; but not necessarily received or utilized by the potential recipient. We can do nothing to earn or deserve it; but we are responsible to follow the guidelines which the Spirit makes clear in the hearts of the truly faithful. This would; arguably mean that as Lord of the harvest fruit in us is demanded.
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