Bible Discussion Thread

"If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our dead bodies. And if they perish, let them perish with our arms wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay. If Hell must be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and unprayed for." (Charles Spurgeon)

I couldn't find from the source online which particular sermon this was from or writing.

This study is going to be hearder than I thought in light of the next Psalm; Psalm 2.

Reply to Richard's quote:

Psalms 116:1&2

I love the Lord because.

Reply to Richard's quote: If Hell must be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and unprayed for." (Charles Spurgeon)

I love that quote.

When I am challenged by unbelievers, in our conversation I always tell,

" You know what, you may not love God but he still loves you. I know this because he loved me before I found that out for myself. Praise the Lord, Hallelujah. Amen."

Some of them think they are "beyond redemption."

Thank you for opening that up !!!

It is interesting as Spurgeon was strong on Predestination; as was George Whitfield who weeped during prayer before going out on his extensive revivals.

I am sure that I will continue to hammer this concept home as I continue through Psalms; as it seems in many churches if hell is even mentioned and believed in; the frequent contrasts between the righteous and the wicked in scripture seems overlooked at least from my experience. I could quote something else related to this from C.S. Louis in the Dawn Treader

So I just lay flat down on my back to let him do it. The very first tear he made was so deep that I thought it had gone right into my heart. And when he began pulling the skin off, it hurt worse than anything I've ever felt. The only thing that made me able to bear it was just the pleasure of feeling the stuff peel off. You know-if you've ever picked the scab off a sore place. It hurts like billy-oh, but it is such fun to see it coming away."

This showed how the character Edmond had a dragon like skin because of the evil that had come into him after; I think greedily eating some magic sweets that were addictive. There is also a scene in another book where the lion (representing Christ) was told to have someone tear into him as well; indicative of how deeply Christ had to suffer for our sake.

It seems the Lord provides the contacts in our lives; and the proper time(s) to give opportunity to witness. It is ok to weep with people; I have seen it myself in regard to street ministry. I would argue with the person you describe that we all are beyond redemption apart from His saving grace and of course today is the day for salvation. Nonetheless we need to trust His timing; and also that suffering in others He is calling serves a purpose.

Anyway; no need to respond to all of this; I tend to "wax eloquent" as it were. This is my social outlet in many ways aside from my church fellowship. I am also hoping to take this to heart and preach to myself.