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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 229391

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  • REALTKING9 - 7 months ago
    Calvinism is from John 15:16 "ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it to you."

    If you do not believe that God chose you, then that is fine. Just do not call a Liar!
  • Giannis - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi REALTKING9

    In the parable of the Sower ( Matthew 13), Jesus tells us a tale in which a Sower (God/Jesus) sows good seed (His word) in various soils (hearts of various people). In each of those 4 cases described the Sower is the same, the seed is the same, good seed, but the result depends not on the Sower, neither on the seed but on the soil, the heart of every individual person. Some people have hearts like paths, hard soil, hard heart, which does not receive inside it the seed/Word of God. Others are enthusiastic, others have good heart but afterwards they turn to secular things and don't produce any fruit, and in the last case there are those who receive the word of God in good heart and eventually grow spiritually. So the final outcome does not depend on God but on the individual. God on His side does everything He should do but if the person is not willing to obey Him nothing can be done. Simply God knows beforehand who is going to receive the salvation He offers and according to our response to Him He chooses one or not. A friendly advice from me. In my christian life so far I have realized that sometimes it is not good to rely on a single verse to understand something but the whole Word of God has to be taken into account to get the right picture of something. GBU



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