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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 229642

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  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    Eightieth anniversary of D Day-some thoughts.

    On June 6, 1944 the Allied armies began their land invasion from the shores of Normandy. This would involve in large part the American and British and signal their first "en masse" intrusion to force the Germans to retreat. In truth the first major resistance for the Germans was the Russians who stalemated their original expansion east just short of Moscow at the end of 1941 and continuing into 1943 when they started the inevitable push westward; expanding in 1944. In the meantime; those such as my now deceased father in law were involved with the slow incursion on the "boot" of Italy; where interestingly Hitler's ally and codictator ended being more of a pain for Hitler; and also the mass killings in that part of Europe never took the ferocity and numbers to the camps as the rest of Europe. Mussolini met his fate first; then later just less than a year after Normandy; did Hitler at the end of April, 1944 when Berlin was sacked despite his maniacal efforts to resist to the last child that could fight.

    Of course on the Japanese front a similar plan would have been an option which was eventually tabled due to the high casualty rates predicted with the 2 atom bombs dropped. If the land invasion happened instead the fight probably would have gone well into 1946.

    There is much that can be said about the war; in terms of it being something that got our country out of the depression (which a lot of wars are about; money). World War 2 itself was the last war that was "officially" approved through Congress; unlike any conflicts since. It seemed we knew who was good and who was evil in this event; but truth be told there were those complicit to the evil that occured even in this country and especially with the Japanese things were much more complex than they appeared in regard to the animosity and religious fervor for the Japanese leader and differing fanaticism between the army and navy.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Hello,

    Listened to Reagan's speech on D-Day 1984 where he said something like: those who fight a war to liberate differ markedly from those who fight a war to conquer.

    The allied forces were fighting WWII to liberate. They were just in going to war and landing at Normandy. The men that disembarked were heroic and selfless in their taking to the beaches under German fire. That victory by allied forces was an event that turned the tide for liberation from the dictator Hitler and his plan to conquer all of Europe for his evil reich.

    I heard today also of a bill introduced to have a month of celebration/acknowledgement/ honoring all American who have fallen in battle. Hope it happens since this is such a worthy thing to do (as opposed to say-gay pride month)

    Those of that generation not only fought the war, but those at home were praying en masse on D-day. Wish our country was more like that now.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Yeah I can't remember exactly; but someone said that an entire unit came back without casualties and those at home in church were praying for them daily (may have been a charismatic type church).

    I am sorry if I sound less than enthusiastic as to my view on the past; I feel that things need to be brought out that may have made things worse than they had to be; nonetheless because of His grace the whole world wasn't destroyed at that time.

    I suppose to go back in detail at this point to explore all this may not be all that edifying. There are things such as the licentiousness especially in England but also I have no doubt occured with our soldiers when on tour of duty that allowed for more collateral damage. Pearl Harbor was something apparently that could have been warned against; and we were said on one or more occasions to have provoked Germany to attack. Of course we could also look to the stubbornness of German Jews who held out for months or years when they had the opportunity to leave because they thought it never could happen there.

    And such a situation may be coming to pass in our nation. I have been warning that if we really defeat and throw out the untold multitudes of terrorists and criminals that are now within our borders that there will be a great loss of life. Just look at the casualties from the Mexican drug cartel and the government in recent years (I know I mentioned that the other day).

    Yes; Gigi I suppose I can be desperately trying to find ways to cope; to prepare or somehow be more ready for what is to come.

    Ultimately the Lord is in control; I'll admit knowing we are in a sinking ship is very difficult to deal with but also I'm a realist.

    Is it wrong to be realistic about how horrible thing are going to get? Yes; I'll admit if we don't focus on His Spirit it is; it is just mind boggling to me how many professing Christians aren't spiritually up in arms when the casualties are mounting around us.

    Sorry to rant.

    Agape; RP



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