Bible Discussion Thread

@ Vic. I agree with you, Vic. I have heard the "Bloodline of Seth and Cain" explanation as well. That explanation actually came from the (false) book of Jasher. Now I do believe that the book of Jasher WAS real, but I am finding that it has been lost and the current book has at least 2 different versions and that is where you find things like the Seth and Cain bloodline stories (explaining the men of renown). Oddly enough, the Mormons seem to be all about this book. The Mormons are also the ones who say Michael is Jesus. Whether 1 Enoch is real or not, I do have to agree that the story about the fallen angels in 1 Enoch makes way more sense than any fundamentalist view regarding bloodlines of Seth and Cain. We can even take things a step further here and get rid of the idea of the fallen angels actually having intercourse with the daughters of men and attribute the Nephilim to technology. The reason why I believe this is because it would make sense that Lucifer want's to be like God and have his own kingdom to rule. I believe he does and has done this through technology. Manipulating genetics (E.G. DNA splicing, cloning, artificial insemination) probably existed even back then. When we do go back and read events from other civilizations, we clearly see technology existed. It is obvious those who brought technology to us wanted to see mankind get rid of the idea of God all together and worship them. So, we don't even need Enoch's writings to prove our own theory. We just have to look into history, read of these "men of renown"(Lord Pakal of the Maya, Ra of Egyptians, Zeus of Greece and so on) and see that these are not just myths, but stories of beings that actually existed and were obviously on this earth "...and even after that..." Gen 6:4. I believe if man wanted to turn their back on God, they would have just turned their back. I do not believe that man would have just decided to turn their back on God and then start fabricating new gods without any type of influence. That just owuld not make sense. What does make sense is the idea of fallen angels showing up and convincing man that they are the ones to truly be worshipped because of all of the awesome things they can do. This is why I truly believe the fallen angels are going to use this whole alien thing as part of the deception with the anti-christ and the false prophet. Only something so crazy would decieve people by the millions. The same things that happened in the days of Enoch are going to probably be very similar to what is going to happen in the future. I am just glad the Jesus has died for our sins, is going to return for us and rid the world of these abominations of the one true God; our father.

Biblical references to the book of Jasher can be found in Joshua 10:13 and 2nd Samuel 1:18-19.

It is believed this book has never really been found. The book seemed to have popped, out of nowhere, sometime in the last 800 years or so. Nobody has been able to authenticate it.