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John, unfortunately when we are operating and taking our evidence from within the spiritual sphere, it mostly becomes futile and sometimes impossible to explain these things using a scientific perception. People who live their lives within the spiritual perspective can quite easily enter the scientific perspective, but people who perceive things scientifically only cannot yet perceive things in the spiritual perspective. This is my experience as a person who once could only perceive the material world but can now perceive both scientific AND spiritual perspectives. as you are on this website I sense you may soon begin to perceive things spiritually as that is what happened to me and others I know. We started our spiritual journeys by sceptically questioning spiritual matters and craving for those things to be explained to us with science. My experience taught me that it doesn't go to plan and we are then "forced" into the spiritual perception when it all becomes clearer and we can then operate within both the spiritual and scientific perspectives. Hope this helps! But you won't get the answers you are looking for in the way you are asking right now.
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