Bible Discussion Thread

verse 16 is one of the most misunderstood verses in Christianity today. We need to go back to verse 5 and remember that Jesus clearly told Nicodemus that he must be born of the water and spirit to enter the kingdom of heaven. In chapter 4 Jesus hints of the coming holy spirit while talking to the Samaritan woman. Other chapters in John also talk of the coming holy spirit which would arrive after Jesus was glorified. I don't believe we are saved by just believing because Jesus told Nicodemus that you must be born of the water and spirit. We find the arrival of the Holy Spirit in chapter 2 of Acts. The first message of salvation of the church age is Acts 2:38 repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. I believe John 3:16 is referring to a trust and belief in Jesus which leads to obedience of faith and not a salvation of just simply believing in Jesus.