Bible Discussion Thread

. That pre creation state is co extensive with that which we call God, namely energy matter in potential, and consciousness will. God must in some sense be conscious of being conscious if there is to be an act of creation. And God must moreover have the attribute of "will " if It is to will the act of creation. That first act of creation had to consist of a change of state from formless energy matter consisting of "no things " therefore complete stillness, and no motion, ie. the aforementioned state of equilibrium to a state of differentiation, in which motion occurs, and "things " therefore appear. According to this account, the reason God created our world by disturbing the primordial bliss state was so that It could have experience, specifically through the differentiated beings of Its creation. In the beginning there was the initial vibration motion which disturbed the equilibrium state that existed prior to creation. Call it the "big bang " if you will, but this scientific metaphor clearly begs the question 1 what is the force which created the motion of the big bang, and 2 from where comes the evident Intelligence which governs the Order that is so apparent in the universe. Creationists call that force "God, " and attribute that Intelligence to It. Science shies away from all talk of God, yet searches everywhere for Order. The realist in me tells me that this is a contradictory quest. A Science that focuses on energy matter ultimately, the laws of motion, vibration, in one form or another will never reveal all the laws of the universe and of creation because the consciousness will aspect of God is as essential an attribute of creation as is energy matter, and the former is different, as a matter of existential category, from the latter.