the honest and true interpretation brothers is just like jacob and david are dead to us...they are alive in christ...hear on..in revelation it clearly shows 1. the resurrected saints and the ones "changed " will live and reign with Christ 1000 years rev 20 4 2. the rest of the "dead " are raised after the 1000 years and they see God AMEN. they see The Lord and justice is done. they recieve the second death. REV 20 12 AT THIS TIME they see his kingdom. how it has come in power and in glory and in all truth. bless you all
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