Bible Discussion Thread

All believers are saints. Believers were but are not presently "just a sinner saved by grace ". Yes, while on this earth the saint of God can commit sin, but it is not who the saint really is in Christ. Christians do commit sins - every day. This statement is not a license to commit sin, but an acknowledgement of the obvious and point out that all believers have the provision of Christ and his Holy Spirit to not fall into temptation and then commit sin. If my name were Smith and I told my son "Smith 's do not lie " and then he lies - is he still a Smith. Of course he is. Then can a Smith lie. Of course they can. The point of saying to my son, "Smith 's do not lie " is not to say that if he lies he disqualifies himself as a "Smith " but to demonstrate to my son that as a Smith he does not have to lie. He, as a Smith, has the standing and provision and liberty to not sin.