Hi QuilaD. Warm greetings to you as share with all of us around God's Word. I notice that you've written elsewhere, so we look forward to exchanging Bible knowledge that would help us in mutual spiritual growth & fellowship.
Very true, Love is the greatest of all from the Spirit; if the Church focussed on exercising that towards God & one another, the gathering of believers would be immensely different & patterned to how Christ intended for His Church to function. But other issues & problems creep in & the foundation of Love is eroded, sometimes totally broken up. But restoration & healing are always available when sin is identified & the Lord's Face is sought in sorrow & humility.
Hello. I'm new here and this exact topic is the reason. I was searching for answers. Thank you for the reminder that Christ came to teach us LOVE. That's the goal, right? "Love The Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, spirit and soul... Love your neighbour as you love yourself... These 3 remain; Faith, Hope and Love. But the greatest of these is LOVE... Fruit of the spirit: the first one is LOVE..."
After all, God is LOVE. The confusion is just a distraction from the actual mission we are all given. I read and understood what I needed to. I may read again, and may not understand it at all another time, but your response, I must just say thank you again. Because it brings one back to what we're supposed to focus on, until such a time when the Lord might reveal to us (individuals/groups) what we need to know, that may not be written in the Bible, at His own time..
Roger you hit the nail on its head...I shake and tremble to answer this question...But the early church began to fragment not long after its beginning...Remember Paul wrote to some saying i hear there is divisions among you, LIE NOT ONE TO ANOTHER...And Jude wrote earnestly content for the Faith that was once delivered unto the saints...And Jesus warns them that the great abomination of desolation was coming...All the Church wd become desolate ..Jesus had said that i am the light of the world but the NIGHT is coming when NO MAN CAN WORK...The early Church was like a great Army but i fear that Ezech. dried bones are the early Church...That Israel of God that will be raised up AGAIN the last day...And the day of the lord can not come till there 1st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed..And Paul wrote after my death shall grevious wolves enter there in not sparing the flock of God etc
....But also Micah 5 : 3....Therefore shall he GIVE THEM UP till she that is in travail has given birth...Then shall the remnant of his brethren return unto the children of Israel He had to give them up till the woman is in travail AND BIRTH PAINS....Till that book the new covenant is opened AGAIN...The womans lil Child is gonna usher in the KiNGDOM OF God...Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...IMO just as Davids 1st Child with Batheheba died in its INFANCY ...Early Christianity was sick spritually and died in its infancy...As there is no more original CHRISTIANITY..But Bathsheba had to travail AGAIN A 2 ND TIME... Gal 4 : 19 My lil children of whom i travail in birth AGAIN till Christ is formed in you... Rev 12 : 10 Now is come Salvation and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ which is the womans Child the H.G. that CHILD OF PROMISE...K
Hi Roger. Had the early Church adhered to apostolic teaching, to the Word of God, & being led of the Holy Spirit, that would have been the case & there would have been no need for apostolic injunctions in this regard. There would have been some slip ups along the way as neither them nor us are perfect to keep the Spirit's promptings perfectly. But if they were mindful of what was required for their belief & gave regard to each other, errors would be soon corrected & harmony would return.
Since then, the Church has spread worldwide, the Word of God interpreted variously, & some Fellowships isolating themselves from other believers because of their brand of Christianity. I think it would be presumptuous to expect anything different or anywhere near the days of the apostles. Each member that comprises the true Church, the Body of Christ, has to give due regard to biblical warrants & so live his or her life accordingly. And if there is any evidence of bickering, gossip, seeking preeminence, corrupting of the Scriptures, & such like, it would be correct to leave & seek out one where the Bible & Christ-like living is given high regard.
Therefore, no Church Fellowship should believe they are the only true ones acceptable to God, rather should endeavour to receive all to worship with them, giving correct biblical teaching & correction as & when required. If Christ by His Spirit is in their midst, the Fruit of the Spirit will be evident & hearts will be drawn closer to the Lord & to each other. The true Church is comprised of Spirit-filled believers - not denominations.
Bible says true christians are to be of one accord,,same mind ,,,likeminded,,one mind,,same spirit,,same love,,same rule,,same steps,,same lord,,,same love,,,however we in this modern day era are confident that are church is right and your church is heretical,,,seems to me that all these different denominations want to be the preeminate one that God has chosen !!
Hi Catherine, I think the verse you are looking for is Mathew 15:22-28. And I think you have the meaning of that verse wrong, read those verses and please return if there is any further questioning, Thank you.
1:1 The burden - The prophet seems to speak of these grievous things, as a burden which he himself groaned under.
1:4 Therefore - Because the wicked go on with impunity. The law - The whole law, moral, ceremonial, and judicial. Is slacked - Is slighted, and not observed. Go forth - From magistrates, judges, and public officers. Doth compass about - As it were besieges, with design to oppress and ruin.
I HAVE. the authorized king james version, of the holy bible., and on the book of, Ecclesiastes, it dont have, CH-26:12. It only goes up to chapter 12:13. Am looking for 26:10-12
Blessed be ethiopian and egyptian coptic churches as oldest mother christians in the world.go seek more knowledge that the ehiteman destroyed by greed and supremecy of prostantism or slavemaster churches.81 books plus more in ethiopian church includes book of enoch ,and many more treasures.babylin ingdom falling downby a tiny virus and Word of Emanuel The True God.pharoah let my people go.back to africa all africans.whiteman back to europe.chinamanback to china..indian back to india.god gave boundries for his creation of nations.sing unto yhe lord Jahovah Messiah the kig of creation.aleluyah.he will bless the meek with salvation.
American protestanrs not catholic for the catholic bible has it.81 books.orthodox church preserve more.check ethiopian n egyptian orthodox churches from africa.
For those of you who do not know or understand Ecclesiasticus is one of the books of the original script that was taken out by the Catholic church. These book contain the rest of the information that Yeshua gave to the prophets, but the Catholic church decide for you and for me it was not meant for the common man and felt that we should be spared this very important information.
"... And woman reflect's man's glory". 1 Cor. 11:7 NLT Comment: If a man is wicked he will be will treat people badly and be without honor. A wicked man heart is dark and inglorious. When a wicked man treats others badly, especially his wife, the woman reflects the pain and negativity he's placed onto her back to him by showing h him dishoner and contempt for his abusiveness.
Keith:in the Book of Ecclesiasticus there 51 chapters it part of the Apocryphal. They're in the Catholic Bible:16 other Books. Some say they were in the original KJV
@Jimkobel,
In fact it is not Ecclesiastes which is among the 66 books of the Bible, it is rather Ecclesiasticus 26, which is one of the Apocrypha Books of the Bible. They are two different books.
God bless you.
Very true, Love is the greatest of all from the Spirit; if the Church focussed on exercising that towards God & one another, the gathering of believers would be immensely different & patterned to how Christ intended for His Church to function. But other issues & problems creep in & the foundation of Love is eroded, sometimes totally broken up. But restoration & healing are always available when sin is identified & the Lord's Face is sought in sorrow & humility.
After all, God is LOVE. The confusion is just a distraction from the actual mission we are all given. I read and understood what I needed to. I may read again, and may not understand it at all another time, but your response, I must just say thank you again. Because it brings one back to what we're supposed to focus on, until such a time when the Lord might reveal to us (individuals/groups) what we need to know, that may not be written in the Bible, at His own time..
....But also Micah 5 : 3....Therefore shall he GIVE THEM UP till she that is in travail has given birth...Then shall the remnant of his brethren return unto the children of Israel He had to give them up till the woman is in travail AND BIRTH PAINS....Till that book the new covenant is opened AGAIN...The womans lil Child is gonna usher in the KiNGDOM OF God...Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...IMO just as Davids 1st Child with Batheheba died in its INFANCY ...Early Christianity was sick spritually and died in its infancy...As there is no more original CHRISTIANITY..But Bathsheba had to travail AGAIN A 2 ND TIME... Gal 4 : 19 My lil children of whom i travail in birth AGAIN till Christ is formed in you... Rev 12 : 10 Now is come Salvation and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ which is the womans Child the H.G. that CHILD OF PROMISE...K
Since then, the Church has spread worldwide, the Word of God interpreted variously, & some Fellowships isolating themselves from other believers because of their brand of Christianity. I think it would be presumptuous to expect anything different or anywhere near the days of the apostles. Each member that comprises the true Church, the Body of Christ, has to give due regard to biblical warrants & so live his or her life accordingly. And if there is any evidence of bickering, gossip, seeking preeminence, corrupting of the Scriptures, & such like, it would be correct to leave & seek out one where the Bible & Christ-like living is given high regard.
Therefore, no Church Fellowship should believe they are the only true ones acceptable to God, rather should endeavour to receive all to worship with them, giving correct biblical teaching & correction as & when required. If Christ by His Spirit is in their midst, the Fruit of the Spirit will be evident & hearts will be drawn closer to the Lord & to each other. The true Church is comprised of Spirit-filled believers - not denominations.
Wesley's Notes for Habakkuk 1:2
1:1 The burden - The prophet seems to speak of these grievous things, as a burden which he himself groaned under.
1:4 Therefore - Because the wicked go on with impunity. The law - The whole law, moral, ceremonial, and judicial. Is slacked - Is slighted, and not observed. Go forth - From magistrates, judges, and public officers. Doth compass about - As it were besieges, with design to oppress and ruin.
In fact it is not Ecclesiastes which is among the 66 books of the Bible, it is rather Ecclesiasticus 26, which is one of the Apocrypha Books of the Bible. They are two different books.
God bless you.
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