Exodus Chapter 13 Discussion

Thank you Mya. I see your point. I was meaning that they needed to be strengthened for battle and for the 40 years of wandering. In Egypt they most likely went home each night and rested for the next day. The wilderness journey included all-nighters and the need for stamina for the long term. But I do admit that the men were probably strong because they were the workers of the brick making most likely. The women perhaps had other assignments, so may have needed to gain strength for the journey. It is interesting that when things got hard in the wilderness the Israelites complained and said that it would be better to be back in Egypt. That is why I said that they needed to be made stronger.

Gigi in regards your comments on Exodus, and number 10 in your list the Israelites were enslaved in Egypt in no way were they soften by anything. They we're treated badly

All the first born males are God's because He purchased them with the lives of all the first born Egyptian males . Exodus Ch 13 V 11-15 .

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The text says that God did not lead them via the short route, through Philistia. This most likely for several reasons:

1) YHWH wanted to develop the relationship between Himself and the Israelites.

2) YHWH wanted to grow the faith and commitment of the Israelites to YHWH.

3) YHWH wanted to strengthen these people as a unit, not as individual tribes, so that they will fight as one people

4) YHWH wanted to give them His Law so that they will know how their society is to live together and among the other nations.

5) YHWH wanted to test them in various circumstances so that they will learn to depend on Him.

6) YHWH wanted the Israelites to experience the many astounding miraculous workings for YHWH.

7) YHWH wanted the people to be away from Egypt and alone with God long enough for them to not want to return to Egypt.

8) YHWH wanted the people to learn about the lands outside of both Egypt and Canaan before they entered the Promised land.

9) YHWH wanted to train the people for battle by making them physically stronger than the lushness of Egypt had softened them .

10) YHWH wanted the Israelites to be purged of the idolatry of Egypt and commit to YHWH now and when they enter Canaan with all of its idolatry.

Moses taught the people how to move in orderly ranks. This is important when leading such a large multitude of people safely. No one was to run ahead, get sidetracked on another way, or lag behind and become separated from the group. They went in the direction of the Red Sea, east into the wilderness, from Succoth to Etham. YHWH led them by a pillar of clouds by day and fire by night. His presence was within the cloud and the fire and He was always with them. He led them. He was in charge. he directed the way. He stopped them when He wanted them to stop, and began moving when He wanted them to go from where they stopped. The Israelites were to submit to God and subject themselves to His directions, not by their own reasoning or concensus. God ruled.

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Moses says that they are to remind themselves of YHWH's deliverance in this month every year when they enter the land promised to Abrahan, Isaac, and Jacob. This was now the land of the Canaanites, the descendants of Ham, not of Shem, who was most blessed by Noah. The many peoples they will encounter in this land are all Canaanites, not people of God's promise.

Moses describes the land of Canaan as flowing with milk and honey. It was fertile, pleasant, and suitable for living. At our time in history, most of the middle east is desert. But in this time in history, it apparently was less so. It is said to have forests, wilderness, pasturelands, and more flow from its waterways. Wells were dug all over the area, so the water table must have been near the surface, easily accessed. History does not document how the climate changed in this portion if the world or when, but maybe, with study, something can be found out concerning this. Every year at this time, in the spring (mid-March to mid April) the were to keep the service to God of the Unleavened Bread it was a 7 day feast. Bread was purged from the home and only unleavened bread was to be eaten. Then on the 7th day there would be a feast to celebrate the last night the Israelites were in Egypt. They were to feast as a memorial to the last meal they ate in anticipation of the imminent deliverance that night from the LORD.

Moses instructs the parents to teach their sons (perhaps all children, but maybe the firstborn) the importance of this feast and the reason for it. It seems that this is when the practice of phylacteries were begun. The fontlets were a headband of remembrance of the Law and on the hands were another item or writing to remind them of God's deliverance and the importance of following Him in all things. Moses introduces the setting apart of the firstborn and thy why of it.

How important it is for us to actively teach our own children about the God. I should have done better at this.

Yeah! YHWH brought the Isrealites out of Egypt, just as He had proclaimed to Abraham hundreds of years before. This chapter opens with YHWH speaking to Moses about the necessity of consecrating the firstborn son of man/beast among them. As the first born of the Egyptians were killed by the final plague, the firstborn of Israel were spared death. So, now that the Israelites were taken out of Egypt by YHWH and the firs born spared, now in the wilderness, the firstborn was to be separated out to the Lord as a reminder of this mighty act of God. Whenever a woman/beast gives birth for the first time, it should be a reminder of how God spared the first born in Egypt. Vs. 2 says that the firstborn "are Mine" even though the whole people of Israel are His people, but apparently the firstborn would be especially set apart for God. Perhaps this is a test to the Israelites to see if they would even be willing to set apart their first child (male) to God and do whatever He says to do with him, just like Abraham did with Isaac.

Next, Moses speaks to the people, starting out by saying "Remember this day". The day was the last 24 hours in which YHWH had spared the firstborn and they had left Egypt in haste by the strength of God's hand. They are to remember that it was God who did this. Not Moses, not Aaron, not Pharaoh, not their leaders, but God brought them out in a great deliverance that should not forget about over time. It is important to remember what God has done for us.

Next Moses mentions the month, Abib, which later became Nisan. It was spring. The heads of the grain were green, new, not mature. The nation of Israel at this time was like Abib, spiritual infants, newly budded, not yet mature or ready. The Israelites have just begun this relationship with YHWH. They had not known Him long. They were just babies in their faith in Him. At this time of year, remember your deliverance from Egypt. Never forget. Never lapse in your memory. Remember.

God bless Zetta it reminded me about the story of the seed being thrown ,and some of it being offended by the world ,and turning away from the truth.Where the Jewish people were God's chosen people so he did not want them tempted to turn back to Egypt,or away from the way the truth,and the life.So in his miraclious way he took them through the sea,and closed the sea upon Egypt!

I would like to know more about the difference in the two ways that the children could have taken to get to Canaan.

Jesus, suffered the cross to save us because we could not save ourselves, we sinned in the garden, and as sinners we couldnt save ourselves, you can't go to god and bond ourselves out with stolen money ,lol

Also once you get married you should try to stay that way. Divorce can be only done if one of you commits adultery.

Matthew 19:9 And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery

I dont see anything wrong with kissing, hugging, cuddling if you're trying to get married. The bible doesn't say they are wrong ( Romans 14 Paul also states that all things are premissable for us yet not helpful, in the proper context, which is things that are not stated as sins) Sex before marriage is fornication which is the sin.

The bible doesn't say that you gotta have papers done to get married, unless its 100% mandatory in your country. Its one man one woman that just decide to get married or become "one flesh" as Jesus said. Adam didnt have to sign papers as far as i know or other people in the bible, nor a ceremony.

If its that hard just pray to God that he allows you to get married as fast as he wills. If you need to you can just get married by law and after a while have a ceremony. It can be done in a few hours i think.

Hope this helps.

Romans 10:9-10 is how you can get saved.

my boyfriend and I are very much in love with each other.

and we want to wait to have Intimacy but finding it hard

because we are so attracted to each other. how do we do this that we stay kept till we get married.

Oh a changed of the rulers.. begin the slavery...thank you!

As a believer we must prepared all the time God bless

A new ruler took over Egypt that did not know joseph theres more read Exodus chapter one.

To learn that answer, one would need to go back a fair bit - back to Genesis chapter 37. You probably know the story, or can read about it from there, but in a nutshell, Joseph was sold into slavery by his brothers to the Midianites who took Joseph into Egypt. When in Egypt, these slave traders sold Joseph to Potiphar, an officer to Pharaoh. Joseph served him faithfully except when Mrs. Potiphar accused Joseph of attempted rape & so Joseph also became a prisoner.

In time, Joseph, being blessed by God was called to interpret the Pharaoh's dream which resulted in Joseph being honoured with a high position & even given an Egyptian wife. Joseph was still a young man at 30 yrs of age when there was a general famine throughout, but Joseph had the wisdom to store up grain for such an occasion so even other countries round about came to him to buy grain. With that, Jacob, Joseph's father, sent his sons (Joseph's brothers) also to Egypt to buy food, & they didn't realize who they would have to deal with: their brother whom they sold into slavery. But Joseph forgave them their sin & even Pharaoh invited Joseph's family to move over to Egypt & settle there. However, Jacob was old & died & in time, Joseph himself died at 110 yrs of age & was buried in Egypt.

So Egypt became the home for Israel (= Jacob), but the old Pharaoh also died & a new Pharaoh came into power, "a new king that knew not Joseph" ( Exodus 1:8) & instead of continuing to enjoy freedom & prosperity in Egypt, all the children of Israel became slaves to the Egyptians & even harder bondage. But God still had a plan to free Israel from bondage, so Moses comes onto the scene, even avoiding death as a baby by God's providence. And you know the rest of the story.

How did Israelites become slave in Egypt?

Hello, I appreciate the tone of this reply.

Carleton

Stephen,

Thank you for your reply. Please do understand we are just His sevants, called to spread His word and the teachings of Jesus Christ according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive (John14:17). Please note the word 'cannot'. Also, please do understand that, while it confounds many, blessings and salvation can also come from God as a result of our message.

In His Service,

Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada

Thank for this. I got a real blessing from reading your comments.

On EXODUS 13:17

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).

The word 'Repent' in different forms (repent, repentance, repented, repentest, repenteth, repenting, repentings) is mentioned 110 times in the KJV, and means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider.

It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).

You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).

It is only by revelation of God that people will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what 'True Repentance' means, and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH.

Trust and obey, there's no other way.

An ass donkey is a beast of burden. More needed than a sheep, I would guess. Did you know that a horse and an ass can mate. They will produce a mule which can not reproduce.

It is really a difficult verse to explain, but the Holy Ghost see us through. I felt what Jerry said as the voice of the holy Spirit. Thank you.

"And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD'S law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt." As the Lord Jesus told Nicodemus, "We speak what we do know, and testify what we have seen.." We have to show by our life what God has wrought in us; that by grace and knowledge teach them to others.

"And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord's law may be in thy mouth.." Not for wrapping cords around your arm, or for fixing a little box on your forehead, as is the custom of the Jews; but that the Word may be in your heart and in your mouth to expound these things, with the sign of your good works and the testimony for a memorial!

Darrell; well, I DON'T THINK that if we have an unsaved neighbor, who is an ass, we are supposed to break his neck. But as it is a beast of burden, and an unclean beast; and it has to do with teaching spiritual things around redemption and the coming dominion under the Elect; perhaps it is to solemnly and dramatically portray the necessity of our redemption; that there is no other reason to exist!

Exodus 13:13 can someone email me an explanation of this verse.

Randy, we must come to grip with and understand the firstborn from both the old and new testaments. John 1:1 says, " in the beginning was the Word-Jesus- and the Word-Jesus- was with God and the Word-Jesus-was God ". Col. 1:15-Jesus- " Who is the imagine of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature. Col. 1:18 says, "And he-Jesus-is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead that in all things he might have the preeminence ". Emphasize the firstborn from the dead this gives all Christians great faith that we all also shall rise from the dead by the power of Jehovah through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The Old testament firstborn lead us to the New testament resurrection of Jesus Christ as the firstborn or the first to rise from the dead never to die again. God bless us all and in the Understanding of his Word. Glory be to Jehovah in the highest through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen!

you got to use your blessing

Hey great article about the firstborn. I 'm sincerely serious here I still am having trouble correlating Jesus as the firstborn His calling And the use of the firstborn in the old testament. I know there is an exciting truth I am missing here. Please have mercy on me and send me an email Further explaining this truth. The Jehovah 's, i.e. YAHWEH 's witnesses, say that Jesus is the firstborn from the Father, therefore He is 2nd in command, I know the Father and the Son come from eternity past Hebrews 1 1 3 and Col.1 15 19. I understand that as firstborn it means more than born first. Please help me in this dilemma, so I can better proclaim His name. Thank you very much. Sincerely R.J.Rance