Ezekiel Chapter 13 Discussion Page 2

The answer is yes if your a true kjv believer
RIGHTEOUS ARE HIS JUDGEMENT it's a joy to the righteous and a Terror to the wicked

"Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:" One of the Lord's woes pronounced against the scribes and Pharisees was because they made their proselytes twice the sons of the devil as themselves; Matthew 23:15. So are many in Churches today!

Ezekiel 13 (cont. 2); "Therefore thus saith the Lord God; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it." Does anyone think that the people in Texas or Florida or Mexico are sinners more than anyone else because these things are happening to them? It is a warning to all men, REPENT OR PERISH!

Ezekiel 13 (cont.); "Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?" Jesus said that when we shall be brought before Governors and Kings to testify the Word of God to them; and when all men are hating and persecuting us; many shall be scandalized and betray one another. These are the ones who are still sinning and expecting fantasies.

"Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered mortar: say unto them which daub it with untempered mortar, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it." Still sinning? NO PEACE! False hopes! End in ruin!

Read John 14 about Jesus coming and taking us to the Father's House the place where Jesus Christ went and is at, and will come back and take us there. This has to be Father's House in Heaven because that is where Jesus Christ went. It is not on this planet! Never has been. Heaven is God's Throne. We will be "raptured" up and taken there to Heaven..this is the only way this can be understood.

V18, this is a parable of the future war and the pillows are parachutes soldiers use to drop into battle areas to hunt the enemy. The kerchiefs are the woven technology in the helmets, statue. This infiltration causes pilots to enter fighter jets to fly over and hunt the hunters.

"Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?" When we are all brought before the Judgment Throne at the last day, what will we answer Him who knows us and all our ways? What will become of us by all that we have believed and said, if our doings made us other than what He commanded? And when He sent to speak to us, we shook our head?

As I read it saddens me to see Christians in great debate over nothing. If you don't look for the rapture you have made your choice. If you argue the method you have wasted your time, No you have wasted Gods time. Who sets out to waste Gods time? Gods will be done.

Duncan:Yes! You are learning. That's why when the Trump sounds "The Dead" in Christ will rise and then those who are alive will be caught up together./ where will you be if: you neglect so great a Salvation, is this the final Call: John 6:44 / whosoever: Revelation20:15

Here God rebukes rapture. 1Thessalonians ch. 4, go back to v 13 and pick up subject, asleep means already dead. 2 Thessalonians ch. 2 Paul corrects those who misinterpret meaning of our gathering together unto the Lord. Read whole chapter.

Ruben Sierra can't change minds on what they learned from those who put out the rapture and they read it in this chapter about preachers who make up this divine dream out of their own minds and that God hates those who teach his children the lie that they will fly away. A false Christ Satan comes who will pay all their bills telling them they are to gather up in Jerusalem. 7th trump they all die.

1Thessalonians4:14-18:--- which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Our Savior himself shall descend from heaven with the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first:we which are live and remain shall be caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we Everbe with the Lord.Wherefore comfort one another with these Words.( Spoken by our "Savior"!) God's Son

Concerning the rapture God tells Satan in Ezekiel 13 that this false story from Satan will be torn from satans hand that he will fly us all away in the rapture but you can't find it in The Bible because God told (tells) Satan that this lie will not stand as God wrote the truth in Ezekiel 13 and God will put the truth in our and hand by are knowledge and work of the truth God tares us from Satan

Nann,Janet:1Corinthians15:52-last trump- the dead shall rise---. 1Thessalonians 4:16--trump of God-- dead in Christ shall rise first:17: -we which are alive and remain shall be "caught up" together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:---.18: Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Caught up:RAPTURED! Unbelieving and loss: Revelations 20:15. Eternity where will you be!

God was angry with the prophets who were lying to the king of Judah and prophesying lies saying there would be peace for Jerusalem when God had spoken by his prophets captivity, famine and pestilence if they didn't surrender to the king of Babylon. The daughters here are witches doing witchcraft which is against the law of Yah.

To God almighty be all the glory,for the power in his word.The truth. Ezekiel 13,is very liberating,because God is exposing lot of secrets,and also warning us of the concisqence of malipulating people to suit,what agenda they are planning .
Evil controll,malipulation is the spirit of witchcraft.Depend on the culture or nations you come from,they are practised,even here
Pray

Thank YAH for JESUS and good teachers. The LORD is coming here where will we be able to fly to. Image- Jesus did not even leave by flying but was taken up.

To Janet and Ken, and whoever else it may apply to; The rapture is not theory, or man's idea; the Holy Spirit spoke of it many times throughout the Bible. I will be happy to give you some of those scriptures, when there's a genuine interest to know if these things are so. The fallacy however, as I see it, is in the belief that it will be before the actual Day of the Lord, and the coming of Christ.

Only our Abba Dad and God Almighty Yahweh

I agree rapture is not in the bible thank GOD for teachers that teach us truth but it is difficult to get the truth across to someone who believes in the rapture theory

I am so glad that I am not the only one who sees the rapture as only a theory. And the comments on this page cause me to view most television preachers with big bank accounts in a truthful light. What if these televangelists were to tell their followers the truth? Answer: these televangelists with jets, Rolls Royce and multi-thousand acre ranches would have to get a job to get money. I am not a judge nor am I talking about ALL televangelists. Some are truthful about the rapture. I know that my church teaches the rapture and I get uneasy at the ease and comfort my friends at this church soak up every word of the fly-away doctrine. I would believe this lie IF it were not for Ezekiel 13. Thank God for this passage. And secondly, why would the Apostle Paul teach about us putting on the whole armor of God to fend off the fiery darts of the devil? Thanks to all of you for standing for and posting The Truth about the rapture.

Ezekiel 13 is a warning for ALL of us. Read what the Angels had to say to the seven (7) churches, Revelation, chapter 2. The Book of Ezekiel reads like Revelation. Today, we need the Holy Spirit in our lives to see the truth, and to see this world through God's wisdom. Jesus is coming back! Study, study, study

Murray teaches the truth and when you teach the truth many religionists that have listened to traditions of men and false teaching just don't see and can not hear and I think that they should get a Strong's Concordance and seek the truth and they will prove to themselves if Arnold Murray is wrong or right. When some one tells you a certain preacher is bad Check it out for yourself.

I have learned a lot from the Bible

Look at what Paul said "I show you a mystery" I-Thessalonians chapter 4 tell of of what trumpet . Its the Trump of God, not an angels trumpt as in Revelations. Paul is the only ones that speaks of this translation, because it was a secret , from the begining of the world. Study the mystery there are about 7 of them. thats not taught in the rest of the bible except by Paul.

I fail to see what on earth Ezekiel 13:20, the denouncement of false female prophets has anything to do with the Rapture. I believe Isaiah 40:31 would be much more meaningful in that regard. Arnold Murray says the word Rapture is not in the bible. Neither are many other words, i.e. homosexual. Words are sometimes developed over time to describe an actual event. Murray also does not preach or teach, he 'lectures'. Oops, not in the bible either.

There are so many that are falling along this path.They are in it for money, prestige, power and not the truth. I am fearful for our nation.

At the moment of death, the spirit returns to God who gave it. The soul ceases to exist soul sleep until the resurrection time when Jesus calls it forth and gives it a new body. The body which died turns back to the earth worm dirt, dust to dust, ashes to ashes . Study the Word of God, this is what it says! Study and Learn the Truth of God, NOT MAN! God says we perish for lack of knowledge!

In that day is today The pastors are teaching the rapture of the souls to fly away. God says they teach what is not written in his book.