Wendy this Son of Man thing is very interesting in the spritual realm....It implies mans fruit unto God which is a baby Christ the very multiplication of GOD in humanity....In Gen. 20 : 15...God made a promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven and God was so passionate about this Promise that he swore by his very self that (mankind was gona be borngain of an incorruptible seed) ....Thus the need for the sower and his seed an incorruptible seed which is gona form Christ in us humanity which is the H.G. that Child of PROMISE...Jesus cd not refer to the H.G. as that great PROMISE if he were not the multiplication of God in us humanity....That was the great promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven....Thus mankind has to birth a Baby Christ which is the multiplication of very God....Thats y the woman in Rev 12 is giving birth to the manchild that is gonna rule all nations....Simply b/c he is gona be born in the hearts of all men via the seed of Christ.....Thats y the New Covenant states i will know them ALL from the least to the greatest....This intimacy is gonna result in a birth of Christ in all men...Thus the SON OF MAN....Thats y Jesus said behold i send the PROMISE of my Father upon you...Which was the H.G. a baby Christ...The Child of Promise....The multiplication of very God in us sinners...The gift of the H.G. is for everybody....As Jesus died for everybody.....God so loved the world etc....Jesus said Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.....ok Wendy GBU....I Pray that God gives you understanding in all this
Wendy....Everytime Jesus refered to himself as the son of man it was prophetic that mankind is gonna birth a baby Christ which is the H.G. ..That New Covenant a Heavenly Birth of Christ in us humanity....Thats y the sower wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts that it might initiate a birth of Christ in us....Which is our new heart and our new SPIRIT....As Jesus said the Kingdom is gona be with in you....Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in'
......Wendy Jesus has to be born in us via his good seed the living word....My lil children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you....Christ is gonna be formed in us via his good seed which is his word....Thus he is our 1st born ...our only son as Zech 12 : 10 mentions....There shall be a great mourning as when one is in bitterness for his 1st born...his only son...Thus he is truly our Son our 1st born when we are bornagain of his seed the word...The world has been in bitterness and in mouring for 2 k yrs for her 1st born her only Child the H.G.....The Child of Promise...Which is Christ in you....The Son of MAN...Which is mankinds fruit unto God... Romans 7 : 4 KJV
Dear Wendy. The expression "Son of man" is a Hebrewism, it simply means man, since what is born by man is a man. The same way " Son of God" simply means God, but often is used to literally mean Son of God, like in Jesus. Jesus was a man and God at the same time. GBU
Can you explain something to me, please? Throughout scripture, I run across "son of man" a lot. I always thought that it was Jesus in the flesh but I find it in other places as well. For example, Ezekiel chapter 8:1-18, among many of the other scriptures. Can you help me understand where I've misunderstood the phrase "son of man" throughout the bible?
the Temple is located in Jerusalem probably close to the Ofal As all the stones were removed there is nothing left of the Location but perhaps in their excavations they will find more relics of a forgotten location. they could build Temple now without anyones permission. Perhaps by the pool of Silom
Not only must we be born again but read what Jesus said earlier in that same chapter. Water & Spirit are needed to enter the kingdom of God.We must read the Bible for ourselves. It's good to help one another but make sure it's truth. All of it. We must be lead by the Spirit or we are none of his. Romans 8. Speak to the Lord our God. Pray. Ask him. He will speak to you as he does to me. Do you hear him? We must know our God & obey the gospel or we won't enter in. Obedience + love is the key. Amen
Paula Roberts, Acts20:7 is the earliest pattern of meeting to break bread, the first day of the week, long before there was a vatican. An individual can worship God at any time, but the body of believers, gathered together, should follow the pattern established by the apostles and early disciples, seen here in scripture.
If you are influenced by Adventist teaching, it may be justification by works that is causing the pushback. Following the Bible is not the way to heaven, knowing Christ has paid for all your sins is the only way. If you ever think you can be good enough, that's wrong.
The Sabbath/rest for Christians is throughly discussed by Paul in Hebrews 3&4. In particular, Heb.4:11, that is, a rest from our efforts to obtain salvation by our own works. What are you going to offer to God, that would add to the work of his son on the cross??? To offer anything is to diminish his ability to save you by his grace.
Israel/the world, was under the law(a schoolmaster Galatians 3:24 & 25) to bring them to Christ. The Church is by grace. Romans 6 There are many so called churches that confuse the distinctions between Israel and the Church, Adventists being only one.
ALL the work of salvation was done by Christ. You are saved, if you believe/trust him alone. 1Cor.15:3&4, Romans 10:9,10,11
This subject has been dealt with a number of times & recently I've share a few points on this with one brother, Rodney, who also wanted to discuss the subject. So, if you're interested, you may find my response to him on Page 4 or 5 (about 2 days ago) on these 'Discussion' pages, rather my rehashing everything again to you.
However, I was also interested in your last comment: "since i have pointed this out i have been pushed back by my ministry." Are you saying that you presently attend a Fellowship which meets on a Sunday & your 'Sabbath' views are having an adverse effect on your ministry? If you are of the belief that it is wrong to worship on any day but the Jewish Sabbath, then you need to change Churches - I can't imagine that if I faced such a dilemma, how I would ever enjoy fellow-shipping with such believers. May the Lord help you to find peace on this matter & also to enjoy a fruitful ministry.
I wondered if this was referencing the fact that christians worship in his house on a sunday rather than the sabbath which is saturday . so worshipping sun gods in his house. I know this was changed by the vatican saying jesus rose on sunday. I did not know this untill a couple of months ago and i am ashamed of my ignorance . I have since spoken to people who are in the eventist church which seem to follow the bible more closely . I have always wonderd why we have not done the same! I hope the lord will forgive me for being fooled for such a long time i prey they will be forgiven it is a comandement after all that should not be broken! However since i have pointed this out i have been pushed back by my ministry.
The Temple of Solomon was destroyed and is not facing any direction today.
God the Father allowed Rome to give a message to those who rejected Christ and his sacrifice
in 70 AD when they invaded Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple. Thus fulling the prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24 when he said not on stone would be upon another. Judaism as a religious practice with animal sacrifices ceased to exist.
The wailing wall is not part of the Temple, unless Jesus was a false prophet. I believe Jesus, not those who pray at the wailing wall. The wailing wall is part of an old Roman fort.
Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Be not deceived,for God demand that we do not worship Idols ,Abomination unto The Lord,for He is a jealous God,do not provoke He.Stay in His word,and live.
Verse 17 - putting a branch does not come "from the main body of the plane " as I read one of the comments above, interpreting beyond what is being said and speculating too much. It is simply a form of worship of idols, abominable to the LORD.
My thoughts on the above chapter is that God was showing Ezekiel what the priests were doing in the dark and making Israel do as well thinking that nobody including God was aware of their doing. The last verses speaks of what the Almighty God would do to Israel starting with the priests for turning their backs on Him. This is a warning from the Almighty God to mankind Jehovah is a all knowing, all seeing God so do what you may knowing that.
I think this passage Is a prophecy yet to be fulfilled ... because how can God ask seven men to defile the northgate... except when christ came turning over the money changers and say the house of my father will not be used as a .....uhhh almost had it... how many apostles testified this prophecy.
The WORSEST thing the Elders of Zion did was SUN WORSHIP they worshipped the sun toward the east v16 Heliocentrism Copernicanism Sun worship Lucifer Satan worship
17 Then he said unto me Hast thou seen this O son of man Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here for they have filled the land with violence and have returned to provoke me to anger and lo they put the branch to their nose The Branch is Jesus the priests in Gods temple put their noses up at Jesus
In the first verse there is 6 year 6th month 5th day 665 right before the Mark of the Beast Like Jerusalem like America has lost it s way Heritage Homes and Houses of God are worshipping idols
by flesh and sinless blood because GOD created the sperm in Mary physically and the life of the flesh is in the bloodline passed
from the God side. Hebrews 2:14 He meaning Jesus Christ took part the flesh His blood was sinless thats why he is the payment
for our sins.
......Wendy Jesus has to be born in us via his good seed the living word....My lil children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you....Christ is gonna be formed in us via his good seed which is his word....Thus he is our 1st born ...our only son as Zech 12 : 10 mentions....There shall be a great mourning as when one is in bitterness for his 1st born...his only son...Thus he is truly our Son our 1st born when we are bornagain of his seed the word...The world has been in bitterness and in mouring for 2 k yrs for her 1st born her only Child the H.G.....The Child of Promise...Which is Christ in you....The Son of MAN...Which is mankinds fruit unto God... Romans 7 : 4 KJV
Thank you and God Bless you.
If you are influenced by Adventist teaching, it may be justification by works that is causing the pushback. Following the Bible is not the way to heaven, knowing Christ has paid for all your sins is the only way. If you ever think you can be good enough, that's wrong.
The Sabbath/rest for Christians is throughly discussed by Paul in Hebrews 3&4. In particular, Heb.4:11, that is, a rest from our efforts to obtain salvation by our own works. What are you going to offer to God, that would add to the work of his son on the cross??? To offer anything is to diminish his ability to save you by his grace.
Israel/the world, was under the law(a schoolmaster Galatians 3:24 & 25) to bring them to Christ. The Church is by grace. Romans 6 There are many so called churches that confuse the distinctions between Israel and the Church, Adventists being only one.
ALL the work of salvation was done by Christ. You are saved, if you believe/trust him alone. 1Cor.15:3&4, Romans 10:9,10,11
However, I was also interested in your last comment: "since i have pointed this out i have been pushed back by my ministry." Are you saying that you presently attend a Fellowship which meets on a Sunday & your 'Sabbath' views are having an adverse effect on your ministry? If you are of the belief that it is wrong to worship on any day but the Jewish Sabbath, then you need to change Churches - I can't imagine that if I faced such a dilemma, how I would ever enjoy fellow-shipping with such believers. May the Lord help you to find peace on this matter & also to enjoy a fruitful ministry.
" THE LORD SEETH US NOT"
God the Father allowed Rome to give a message to those who rejected Christ and his sacrifice
in 70 AD when they invaded Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple. Thus fulling the prophecy of Jesus in Matthew 24 when he said not on stone would be upon another. Judaism as a religious practice with animal sacrifices ceased to exist.
The wailing wall is not part of the Temple, unless Jesus was a false prophet. I believe Jesus, not those who pray at the wailing wall. The wailing wall is part of an old Roman fort.
Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
God bless
God Bless