Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 10

Salut! J'aime visite ce site J'aime le travail beaucoup. J'ai probleme, pourquoi on ne peut pas faire un rchercher d'un Chapitre ou le verset que je veux avoir?

Par exemple si je veux aller dans Apocalypse Chapitre 20: 1 il faut que je passe tous les Chapitres.

Chris, I probably worded what I was trying to say incorrectly. I'm not trying to say the law wasn't done away with, as I was actually talking about the Sabbath, which is included in the law, but was given centuries before the law was given to Moses. So doing away with the law has nothing to do with God giving the Sabbath to Adam and Eve and their children, who continue to this day. Christ keep the Sabbath until his death, and if you read the Ten Commandments you'll see you honor nine of them.. And I, like you, will stop for now as we both see things in our on way. We'll finish this discussion in heaven in the near future.

I'm sorry if you think that I've responded to you in an unacceptable way. This is a general discussion section, where comments of various types are presented, so one should be prepared to defend their beliefs, if they wish to do so. Personally, I love questions: they make me think, pray, search the Scriptures for the answer, as well as for the knowledge I can build up on.

Just to answer the one question you posed: "Just tell me the book, chapter and verse where God changed his mind and took away the day he gave his children." The Law, including the Sabbath, still holds true for Israel, from the first day it was given till now - therefore there can never be a verse to rescind that Law for THEM, i.e. they will be judged by the Law ( Romans 2:12). But for those of us not under the Law (both saved Jew & Gentile) & have found redemption in Christ Jesus, that Law that only brought condemnation & death to those under it ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-17) was entirely done away with (verses 11-13) & has no application or power to the one IN Christ. If the believer should say that I'm in Christ & also want to keep the Law to be right with God, he has fallen from grace ( Galatians 5:4).

I'll stop here - just wanted to answer your question. You may not care for the answer, & that's fine, but when we take in the whole Word of God & not a single verse, the proper understanding of a matter can be appreciated.

I would prefer your prayers than your direction of my mind. That I try to leave to God. I had to read Romans 12:9-21 after your comments. Everyone knows you can pic a verse or a sentence out of the bible to "prove" your point. And just "mindful" questions for occupying time; I wouldn't expect an answer either. The bible does tell us that God told us everything we needed to know. And since you seem not to believe the bible, were God said he "Blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it"; Gen 2:3. Then I'm not sure what you do believe. and yes, those like myself who do believe God's word that it as the truth. Now, instead of question to direct my mind, it's very simple. Just tell me the book, chapter and verse where God changed his mind and took away the day he gave his children. I'm sure you must be right, when he said he NEVER changes, he really couldn't have meant that, as Christ couldn't have meant he wouldn't even change the punctuation in the commandments. God forgive both of us for our attitudes here. I've already ask him for forgiveness, as it's easy to trip over our long robes.

Never noticed that. Guess nobody knows.

312 years ago there was Matthew Henry.

I am blessed to have today, read his commentary.

Thank you and may The Lord Bless You for making this possible.

Strange question. I at best will give my best guess; since I have never heard it discussed before. The thought that comes to mind is that eventually; that expanse above was likely to be used as a judgment in the time of Noah; when the waters above (i.e. canopy before rain fell on the earth and a mist covered the ground) as well as those above would consume the earth. Some believe in a "gap" theory in between Gen. 1:1 and 2 when the earth was "without form and void" and also apparently mentioned in Zechariah which was an earlier flood that destroyed Lucifer and other spirit beings kingdom which he had established after being cast out of heaven when he and his angels fell with him. Therefore; it would be a sort of intermediate period when the "die was cast" so to speak; and also likely when Satan used fallen angels to corrupt the offspring of Adam so that only Noah was "perfect in his generations"; hence once again bringing a worldwide flood. That flood would bring 8 survivors; the first one if spiritual beings merely destroyed their first attempt at "filling the city with violence through trade" as Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 seem to indicate was Lucifer's pastime.

That's my best guess. Agape. Rich P

Genesis 1:31,

Genesis 1:7, could it be that because HE hadn't made the "lights in the Firmament" yet? Genesis 1:15-18, that it doesn't mention seeing it until Genesis 1:31. Could it also be because the firmament wasn't completed yet, & possibly rather empty?

Psalms 19:1, Daniel 12:3,

Hopefully this is helpful

Can anyone explain to me, preferably referencing other Bible passages, why is it that in the second day God did not see it and it was good? Thank you!

The Bible is easy to access and quick to navigate. Well done!

T. John McBride

Hello Mac. Btw, I'm not the same Chris who wrote to you much earlier; and also, I think you should have written in your first paragraph, "Saturday is the only day God blessed", in keeping with your belief.

Those, like yourself, who believe that the Sabbath is the "day God blessed & sanctified", need to also consider some other questions on this matter.

Questions such as: to whom was this Law (& indeed all Laws), given? What was the purpose of these Laws?

What is the meaning & requirements of the Sabbath? Was it any more than a rest day, a cessation of all work?

Is the Church that is formed under the New Covenant, obliged to come under those Laws (this Church which now comprised both saved Jews & Gentiles)?

When there was an instance in Acts 15:1-31, where the demand for Gentiles to be first circumcised & to keep the Law of Moses to be saved had to be dealt with, what was the response & apostolic decision? I'm sure you know the passage well. Did the apostles ever require the Gentiles, or any new believer, to come under the Mosaic Law?

If the Old Law only brought condemnation ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-17) & had to be done away with through Christ's Death, how is the Christian now able to know & fulfil the Laws of God?

If a believer now believes that he needs to keep the Laws & Sabbath in particular, can he condemn another who doesn't & who has understood the liberty Jesus gained for him to obey, to live, to worship God, as the Holy Spirit directs ( Romans 8:1-4; Galatians 5:1-4,18,25)?

Just a few questions to consider - not expecting answers, but hopefully to direct your mind to the full meaning of the full redemption we now have in Christ Jesus: redemption from sin's penalty & redemption from the Law's curse. We now obey many more Laws of God, more than what was given to the Jews to obey, & we do so from the continual ministry & power of God's Spirit.

Have to disagree with you about the Sunday law diving the people, as it changed the day God blessed and sanctified and gave to all creation. It causes God's children to worshiped him on the day of the pagan Sun god day of worship. It joined the Christians to the pagans. It only divided Christians from God. Sunday is the only day God blessed and sanctified, and for God to change it would make him a liar. As it would also make Christ a liar to except any day his God and ours chose for himself and us.

And any Christian should be worshiping God every day, but His chosen day of rest is the Sabbath; unless someone can show me in the bible were it was changed. (Mamatos5, there is a good book about Passover, the bible) And Christ becoming our Passover has nothing to do with a day of the week. Christ is our Passover, the blood over our "door" that gives us eternal life by forgiving our sins. And my comments about Sunday being the mark of the beast was only to make those reading to consider what might be, and to search their bibles for answers. No one knows what is it unless God has chosen them to be a last days prophet. All you can do is pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you to where God wants you in your knowledge of his word. And Friday sundown to Saturday sundown is the Sabbath, as explained by Genesis 1:5,8,13,19 and 23 "And the evening and the morning where the first day"; 12 hours of light, morning through evening ( John 11:9)

Hey Mac,

Deception is sly as a serpent and with a sleight of hand has us looking in the wrong direction and causing division, the Sunday law was just that. What Christ did, we in the past were strangers without God, Christ making of two in one body, and both have access by one Spirit unto the Father, Ephesians 2:10-18. Is it wrong to gather on Sunday? No. Can we call Sunday the Sabbath? No. Can we be justified by keeping the Sabbath? No.

The Sunday law was made to divide the Christians and the Jews even though many of the Jews were Christians. My understanding, the mark of the beast has nothing to do with Sunday and it will not come about until Satan is cast out of heaven and gives his power, seat, and authority to the beast, Revelation 12, 13.

Greek philosophy has influenced traditions and theories and I agree we work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Not sure of the meaning of Friday sundown till Saturday sundown? Jesus said in John 4:23-24, that we should do it every day not just one day of the week.

Many things divide us but only one thing makes us one, the simplicity that is in Christ, 2 Corinthians 11:3.

God bless,

RLW

Sunday is a tradition of man, as you pointed out, not God. God chose the Sabbath and blessed it. And Christ said he wouldn't change a dot of the law, and he didn't. Man did. But Christians only give a couple of hours on the first day of the week, Sunday, to feel they did what they should. What if 321 AD started the mark of the beast. Then those who observe Sunday would be following Satan. Would Satan do something like this and leaves just a remnant to follow Christ. Like today Christians are worshiping Easter, which comes from a Pagan holiday where the rolling of eggs meant fertility and Ishtar with orgies were practice as a form of celebration. I find it very hard to keep my mind on God from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday, the actual time frame God setup. That's why we must work out our salvation with fear and trembling. and study God's work through the Holy Spirit. And personally I think we are going to see things getting worse and worse, quicker and quicker. If so, could Christ be coming. Come, Father, come.

To Mike

They did have the authority, as they did in fact eat. If they hadn't had the authority, they would have been physically unable to eat.

1 Corinthians 10:23 "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

In Exodus 20, the ten commandments are spoken by God in an ordering voice: "Thou shalt not commit adultery.", for example. And yet people still do commit adultery, so they have the authority. Whether it is convenient or not, well, I don't have to spell that out for you.

The serpent deceived Eve in telling her that she wouldn't die despite God saying that they would:

"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Sure, they wouldn't die immediately, which the serpent based on this his "half-lie": "Ye shall not surely die"; but they certainly did so eventually, as for God one day and a thousand years are one and the same.

Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."

1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." I repeat: The first man Adam

Another observation, though this is but speculation:

There is only one tree of the knowledge of good and evil, so the fruit it bears might not have seeds as it doesn't multiply.

What is your address? I will send you one.

If you like this version, there's a free download on this site. If you look under "More" tab .

Hopefully this was helpful

I want to buy a latest version of kjv of Bible in American English.please help me. I can have soft copy also.

On the 6th day God created a man and a woman and he gave them authority to eat of the fruit of EVERY tree. Adam and Eve were not given such authority therefore this man and this woman were not Adam and Eve.

Dear Christian , here are some Bible verses that might give u some food for thought ; Genesis Ch 2 V 22 , Zech Ch 12 V 10 and John Ch 19 V 34 . I hope these verses spark your interest .

Thank you so much for sharing this useful King James Holy Bible. God bless you all.

Dr Ndomo Melingui Thrse Aisha Servante of God and his People

It's still there

Genesis 2:21-25 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."

What Bible brand are you using?

Hi Virginia,

The Jesuits were not founded until the 1500s, some involve the Jesuits with end-time teaching, with the black Pope, and more, and their past is not filled with a lot of good. The Sabbath is the seventh day, keeping the Sabbath is more than going to a church on that day, Exodus 20:8-11.

Constantine created the earliest Sunday law known to history in 321A.D. The main reason was the conflicts between the Jews and the Christians and since the pagans did their thing on Sunday. Constantine claimed to be Christian, but this law does not read like it.

"On the venerable Day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country, however, persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits: because it often happens that another day is not so suitable for grain sowing or for vine planting: lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost". Codex Justinianus, lib. 3, tit. 12, 3.

Council of Laodicea -364 AD named Sunday the Lord's Day. One reason was to stop the Sabbath-keeping tendencies in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Council of Laodicea produced sixty rulings, or canons, covering a broad range of topics and punishments.

Many worship on Sunday because the day Jesus resurrected was on the first day of the week and some on Saturday. We are also told not to judge, Colossians 2:16 read all of chapter 2. Every day is a good day to worship in the spirit and truth, John 4:23-24.

Some point to the phrase "four corners of the earth" that appear in the Bible. Isaiah 11:12 Revelation 7:1, and Daniel 4:11 is said the earth would have to be flat to see the tree, and more, but even if people in the past believed the earth was flat, in my opinion, the Bible does not teach that.

God bless,

RLW

Hello Virginia,

While the Jesuits have done much damage to Christianity, they did not change the Sabbath. Christians do not have to celebrate a Sabbath. Christ is our Sabbath rest! There is a good website with a book about this: biblebasedministries.co.uk

That being said, a day of rest & for the Lord is excellent!

Also, John Doerr, and Lamp in the Dark have good teaching videos on Youtube, as well as a channel called 'Rescuing the Church.'

The Earth is a globe, it is not flat. Now I definitely don't trust all of what NASA puts out, but the Earth is a globe. Google 'himawari-8' this is a Japanese satellite that sends photos daily, an image of Earth every 10 minutes.

Hello Christian. If you read Genesis chapter 2, you will find the account you are seeking.

Hi.

Can you tell us where you have seen those changes? Thanks

What happened to the passages inGenesis where God made Eve from a rib of Adam's? Instead I now read that God made manand womanat the same time without mentioning God making Eve from Adam's rib? Who changed this, why, and when?

I know that the jesuits changed the sabbath day is the sabbath supposed to be Saturday as Jews celebrate? Also do we live on a flat earth with dome?

The man in Genesis 1:26-28 is ADAM.

Genesis 2:15

"And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."

and then EVE was made

Great and most wise GOD is Our Father who is above All Things