Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 13

Hi Trish, I don't know if anyone can properly explain this without actually being in heaven in The Spirit. I will just tell you what little knowledge I have. Here on earth we have the firmament that separates the water, and above us we have the firmament that separates the earth from space. Above that there is also a heavenly heaven where Yah dwells where there is no darkness. Yah Bless You!

Hey Trish,

The firmament, raqia, meaning an extended surface, expanse, God called heaven that He placed the sun, moon, and all the stars. It is from the earth to the furthest star. In Genesis 1:6-8 the second day God said let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters to divide the waters, WOW. This shows how little we understand the size and power of our God, we cannot even comprehend that. We ask what is this water that is above the farthest star we know of?

In the ancient world among all peoples everywhere believed the sky (firmament) was a rock-solid dome over the earth beneath which were the sun, moon, and stars. Some in the past believed there was a sea above this solid dome. Some believe the water was a canopy of water vapor that covered the earth before the flood. This greenhouse effect might have made the whole pre-flood world tropical and helped people live for hundreds of years, and the water used to flood the earth.

With the sun, moon, and stars in this firmament that could not be because this would have created intense heat that would cook everything. I think this is one thing outside of our understanding, you can word search firmament in scripture, but God throne is above it, Paul called it the third heaven, 2 Corinthians 12:2. The waters above may be the waters of life as we read in Revelation 21:6 and Revelation 21:1,17. The water Jesus offered in John 4:10-15.

God bless,

RLW

Can someone explain the firmament please?

Hey Paadamshel,

Your question is something easy to just read over, plants of the earth whose seed was in itself, after his kind. These plants like the animals after their kind, God clearly says there was no evolution involved in creation.

The word earth used is Strong's #776. h-'-re, erets definition earth, land, countries, the dry part of the planet. The plants of the earth would produce and grow on their own with no need to plant, till, these plants were self-bearing, plants that did not need cultivating. God filled the earth with food to feed the animals that would be coming.

Little words put light on things we may just look over like the word earth and in chapter two the word field ha--eh Strongs #7704 meaning: field, land, agriculture. In chapter two it is the plants of the field and animals of the field.

The earth takes care of itself, but you must till and plant a garden before it will grow.

God bless,

RLW

In simplest terms - an apple seed. The fruit of the tree apple, peach, cherry; contains the seed thereof. Plant and apple seed and you get an apple tree.

Hello, Paadamshel, this phrase in Genesis is referring to seed bearing plants and trees. This type of vegetation produces nuts or fruits or pods or cones or flowers that have seeds in these parts of their structure. There are other plants that spread by rizomes, tubers, and roots. But I think these were made on this same day also.

Hope this helps.

question: explanation of verse 12, particularly this: "whose seed was in itself"

Yes Leanna,

First of all we learn that before anything else existed God was eternally alive. Next we learn that the heavens and the earth were created by God alone from nothing that existed before these came to be. Third, we learn that God is all-powerful to be able to create from nothing everything that exists in our universe, including stars, planets, light, all matter, all natural laws, all forces, and all creatures and living plants. And next we learn that humans are created by God. Then we learn that God determined that all He had created was very good. So from this we come to know that God is perfectly good, because what is evil cannot make anything that is good.

Joseph Smith was a person who lived and led many many people away from the Salvation of Jesus, the Son of God.

The Bible says to FOLLOW JESUS,

Not Joseph Smith__whose remains are inside a casket [which could be dug up and looked at)

Jesus's Tomb was already opened by an Angel; even though it had been sealed closed with a rock that weighed over 1000 pounds.

Six Roman soldiers guarded the Tomb all night. I was told the tomb rock hadn't been laid over. It had been picked up and tossed on top of the Tomb; which was dug out on a hillside. A story told by Jewish Christians for almost 3000 years.

A big riot ensued by the Pharisees accusing the Soldiers of falling asleep.

Mary Magdalene, Martha and another, went to complete the burial tradition; nd saw the empty tomb and alerted the soldiers! Mary Magdalene ran across town to tell the Disciples what had happened. Peter believed.

Three days later Jesus is resurrected and walks out; fully alive. Well over 500 people saw him over the next month. The sightings were recorded. His disciples witnessed Jesus rise through the air up into clouds.

The greatest witness of all, is that all these events were written in the Bible as PROPHESIES, before they began to be fulfilled to the letter. First one being Genesis 3:15. Jesus crushed Satans neck with his foot.

These aren't made up information. They were recorded by Jesus's Disciples; Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Later the Bible was made with all of the Books written.

Recently the Jewish Museum in Israel opened to allow people to see the scrolls. Restored and able to be read by visitors in original language. Scrolls can be seen online too.

Jesus is who He said he is: I AM.

I am one of those people who got a peek at Hell. I was a bad person. Isaiah 14. People in it scream non-stop. They are tormented.

Don't go there. Repent and commit your life to Jesus. Signs show he's returning soon. Keep coming in here. We can help you.

Mishael

My Dear Sweet friends, there is a real lesson in this chapter.

Dear Jocelynne, I will pray for you today.

Lord Jesus, Jocelynne is reaching out to You for help in believing Your Word in Scriptures and has many questions about how You brought Creation about so long ago. Bring her to information that will help explain some of what she reads in Scripture, perhaps in posts on this site or other sites. I trust that You will guide her searching and questioning to satisfying, truthful information. I ask this in your name today, Jesus. Amen.

Maybe you haven't been back to read your answers?

There's a LINK out on the red page where you entered the rooms: BECOME A CHRISTIAN

I think it will be most helpful to you. Let us know if the comments were helpful?

Each book of the Bible has different amounts of chapters. Some very small books don't even fill a whole page. Some are chapters are many pages within a Book, thankfully this site fits each chapter in one scrollable page. Check it out, by clicking on the Bible version you want to read. KJV Standard or 1611 at very top of page. Then choose any Book, like Genesis or James, Obadiah, Jude, or Psalms.

If want to see a really cool version, with actual pages choose the 1611 version any Book & look at right hand side of page then tap on picture of the opened page Bible.

Hopefully this is helpful

Hi Jocelynne.

Don't be discouraged, You are asking questions that many have asked and they're not stupid questions.

There is not much I can do to make you believe what is written using scripture if you don't believe in the scripture.

But I would like to share that the bible is actually 66 books with over 40 different authors written over a span of thousands of years yet these books Harmonize as a single msg.

This fact along with the many fulfilled prophecy should be enough to consider this book to be unique and not just another history book.

Most history books give an accurate account on what has already past. The bible gives accurate accounts on what's future, what's present, and what has already past.

One of the most recent is Israel restored back to the land in 1948.

Ezekiel 37:21 (KJV) And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:.

Read all of Ezekiel ch 7. This Prophecy is not completely fulfilled but it is continuing to unfold before our very eyes!!

Jocelynne pray to God to come into your life and open your eyes to his word and understanding.

Only he can do that,

And everyone who has wisdom and understanding git it from God, otherwise he/her don't have it!

You said you believe in God trust him, he want leave us without understanding.

I pray someone helps in this matter and would like to expand on this.

I will check on you in a day or so.

God bless you.

Thozi, you can go to the 'Select a Book' box at the upper right of the Main Page & you will see all the Bible Books & their chapters as you click on them.

How many chapters does each Book of the Bible have?

How is it going Brother Rick?

I hope all is well.

We haven't heard from you.

I don't believe this because Scripture does not teach it and I believe it is heretical thinking.

Glenn. I caution you. Satan is not human. He has to borrow a body. Ephesians 6 Satan, demons, principalities, powers, evil spirits: none have bodies. In the Old Testament they were called inhabitants. Satan took the body of a serpent.

Glued gemstones all over him. You can Google lists of evil spirits names. It's gross.

God was not walking in the garden with invisible spirits.

Secondly, all the giants and evil spirits DROWNED after the flood.

Jesus told demons to get out of the crazy man and go into some pigs__which promptly DROWNED. They wander around looking for people who are drunk, drugged, immoral, etc. to get inside them. They don't mind if we read the Bible or go to church.

They just don't want you to belive it, and live it.

Eve stepped away from her husbands apathy. The serpent was all sparkly with jewels; Adam didn't flinch. She ate the fruit and Adam ate it because he loved Eve more than God. BAM! the 2 Trees were protected and the first HUMANS were driven out. Gods plan of redemption was already in force. A human would die willingly, to pay for the sins of all mankind. Gen. 3:15. When Abraham was willing to sacrifice his own son, for the sins of future Israel; the plan went forward to Luke 1. God became the Son of Man: HUMAN. Jesus would have dominion, power and authority. Satan would be stripped at the Cross. Jesus took satans keys to the prison of death, hell and the grave. He crushed satans neck with his foot.

Isaiah 14:24

You should just give up this Old Earth Cult and be born again from Jesus. Follow Him. He will give you the Holy Spirit forever: to be your Teacher and Revealer of scripture in the KJV Bible. Ask Him to wipe your hard drive (brain) and Help you to win souls to God. Wise he is, who wins souls to God. Holy Spirit just said to tell you read in Timothy.

Good night.

All scientists seek to explain FOUR QUESTIONS: Time, Force, Action, Matter. (Even Steven Hawking)

I was reading in Genesis, the Holy Spirit stops me on verse 1. He said the 4 things

TIME: in the beginning__God set TIME ticking

FORCE: The Godhead created. (Father, The Word ( John 1:1) and Holy Spirit

ACTION: and the Spirit of God MOVED over

MATTER: earth, waters, atoms

God purposed, Word spoke: Light Be, and there was Light. (Purpose Spoke Light)

Carbon dating proves earth is around 2-3 billion years. SATAN was around but he's a created being. He cannot create dinosaurs, cavemen or anything other than chaos.

My personal theory is: Romans 1:19-20. God put the artifacts in earth for us to find; oil for our cars, coal to be warm, fresh water for us and salted water for creatures.

We have to pray for scientists to see the Book of Romans. It's an occupation, as is archaeology, bio science, medicine. We are without excuse if we refuse to acknowledge The Godhead.

I caution you, not to teach your ideas to Gods baby Christians.

There are many, many more scriptures all over the Bible about creation; not just in Genesis.

I think we're all going to be in heaven watching God restore earth to BEFORE mankind messed it up. 2 Peter 3; Malachi 4:1

I've always thought some of the best stories are in chronicles, Kings, Samuel__Nehemiah. There's lots in Jeremiah. We just can't seem to like ALL parts of the Bible. Revelation 22 is key.

I don't want to show up in heaven, and meet Habakkuk and have to say: "sorry man, I never got to your book" :/

See, if you teach that man existed before Adam; that's called OLD EARTH THEORY. It's heresy.

Let's all remember that Malachi 3:16-18. God has a Book of Remembrance that writes down what we think and say about Him. How wonderful to bless His Holy Name!

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. [Jesus]

1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.

Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.

It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to Jesus.

God lives outside of time and inside of time.

Romans 1 says that if we dispute the evidence of the reality of God; we are without excuse.

I'm not debating this. It's for whomsoever Will believe God is. Can the clay say to the Potter, " what are you doing?!!

A good REFERENCE Study Bible (KJV)with a "center column reference cross scriptures" is very God for cross reading other relevant passages. It's the best.

If you're not sheep or goat, you may be wolf or hireling.

Better figure things out soon. That Russian Submarine in Washington State a few days ago; may have surfaced off the coast of South Carolina tonight. Made a buoy bounce around. Cam footage looks like that Russian Nuclear Sub.

Somebody should tell the President.

Hi Gigi ,.. I too have to say , why wouldn't you be able to understand that we existed prior to this flesh age ? For God would not have us in flesh, like pets ,.. there is our spiritual body, a much more superior an awesome thing

Peace

Glenn

Thanks for explaining.

I strongly disagree with your interpretation. But, I can only recommend that you research such a belief in Christian history and see if your view is truly from God or not.

I appreciate your exchange with me. Some topics and differences can be uncomfortable, but to me, it is helpful to talk out ideas such as this.

At this point, I will be exiting this thread. I wish you well, but I think your view is a gravely erroneous.

Hi Gigi,.. no I did have any one say or tell me this ,. It's just my belief in my study that we were all made in spiritual body's ,. An living in a wonderful place,.: an unfortunately, Lucifer had worked his way up , an God made him a great cherub,. But hey, his pride and his ego , got in the way , an he had also fooled an third of us,.. into following him !!! An hey, that's why we are all going threw this flesh ,.. to decide which one we are going to be follow ,.. an interesting enough, early in genesis, God himself repented , on doing this , for he could see we were all pretty much selfish in this flesh body !!!

Dear Glenn

Yes we can disagree on this. But we both cannot be correct.

I do not think that you have shown the validity of your view from Scripture and most Christians across time would disagree with you.

But we can still be peaceable about this.

I was wondering if you could explain how you came to this view. Did you read it somewhere outside of Scripture or hear it preached by someone (who) or is it taught in your church affiliation (which is)

Just wish to know the sources from which you received this view.

1 Corinthians Chapter 2

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but THE SPIRIT which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

John 3, Jesus said we must be born again, to receive the HOLY SPIRIT,

living on the inside of us.

[you must speak these things openly, to receive them, openly]

Be brave. Mishael

I do not mean to wound or be rude, but you are being lied to by "lying spirits".

The whole planet is in denial that "This End of the World"__Jesus Stuff__God is our Father__the World is going to burn up. etc. 2 Peter 3

You're afraid the Bible, which has survived 6000 years of opposition, Jesus's Crucifixion and Resurrection___might be Truth.

See, Isaiah 14 teaches that Lucifer (SATAN) is real. He hates God, Jesus, the Bible, Christians, and he KNOWS his end will be in the Lake of Fire. He wants TO HURT as many people he can who might possibly read a Bible and ask JESUS to come live in their hearts.

Satan sends out his lying spirits to shake your tiny faith and__take you to hell with him.

They did that to me. 20+years. I was suicidal. God reached down into the mess of my life and pulled me up; and showed me his Son. It took 2 years to learn how to get all those evil spirits out of my ears. If you choose Jesus and BELIEVE his story in the Bible: all those lying voices will just GO away.

ASK the Lord to help you. Tell Him what you need. I needed those things to stop telling me death is a fluffy blanket.

Read 1-2-3 John in the back of the Bible (in front of Revelation). Jesus is Your Advocate. Like a defense attorney. Whatever lies, doubts, confusion, chaos, rail to Jesus about you__Jesus will dismiss those charges for you. You will be free. Just like me. You will become strong inside.

These scriptures are for you too:

Song of Solomon chapter 2:9, 6:3, 7:10

He will never leave you.

Hi Gigi ,.. I thank you for your thoughts on this,. An I am just thinking that we both have different understandings , I also believe in the 1st chapter of Ephesians , we are taught of predestination,.. I'm just glad that we can have mutual peace and understanding that we may not all have the same knowledge of a certain subject an of course I serve as no judge or know it all ,.. I simply want to learn , an share with kindness,.. weather we agreed or disagree

Peace

Well I'm not saying that the bible is false or our souls aren't actually true, but people have to actually see this stuff happening, like I know my questions might be stupid, but how are people gonna tell me to believe in God, but I don't even know if the Bible is actually true? , because yes people were NOT alive back then, and people want me just to go by a Bible or a book, but what if you don't know if it's a book, it could be something else because none of us were alive to tell us what the Bible actually is. I do believe in God, but some of the things that people or my family want me to believe doesn't make sense.