Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 139

I could not understand at first what the meaning of the word firmament was ... I checked the online dictionary & it concluded it was "the vault or expanse of the heavens the sky" In other words "the space" or "a space" ... ie, let there be "a space" in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters which [were] under "the space" from the waters which [were] above "the space" ... & God called "the space" Heaven ... & God said, Let there be lights in "the space" of the heaven to divide the day from the night. Just my thought ?

@Mike: Panspermia/exogenesis can explain the existence of days and nights and plants before our sun and stars. The details are sketchy becasue Moses was shown a vision of his place in the universe, and then struggled to communicate that, perhaps years later, to Aaron who recorded it for posterity. Moses was a stutterer atop being a mere mortal trying to convey a very personal experience with the unknowable Creator in a culture far removed from ours, so it's expected to be a bit murky.

and what evidence does evolution have? Lets see In the beginning God.... vs in the beginning big bang doesn't sound too good to me just saying It takes a lot more faith to believe that we came from a rock than we came from God

can someone please tell me where the word trinity is mentioned, also it clear that the days referred to in Genesis are 24 hour periods, how can you have night and day one day 1 and 2 when the earth is created on the 3rd day, use your logic, this is going against established science, night and day again depends upon the rotation of the earth

When God said, Let us make man in our own image, He was talking to his trinity. the same way we are made.(three parts). The Bible say's, In the beginning,the Word was with God, the Word was God. We all know, the Word is Jesus.

God is the ceator of all the ends of the earth . HE is the creator of of all things. HE is the great I AM, everything is in HIM. the book of Genesis says it all. Note verse 2, it reads as thus ..... And the Spirit of GOD was hovering over the face of waters. The earh was without form. Actulally it is not about Genesis 1, but what GOD, HIMSELF did when HE created the heavens and the earth and all therein. I really honor GOd, for He is my GOD, I will always honor Him for HIs greatness. I'm astonished with HIS LOVE yet I'm grateful and thankful. Chapter 1 Verse 26 surely make me to be more closer, cling and longing for God everyday, as a deer pants for the streams of waters, my soul. flesh and spirit pants for the ALMIGHTY GOD. did you know that GOD first created you and me as spirit man and blessed us. how amazing to be continued..........................

i think,in order to discibe the scintific explanation of how the earth was created in just few sentences you will get genesis 1:2. my point is that it is in the language.

How long did it take thee creator to create the Heavens and the Earth in Genesis 1 ?

One last thing. You,we all have a spirit/soul. God has a Spirit, His is Holy, when you died you will return to Him. Only He can kill our spirit/soul. I think when a spirit/soul is burn from with in to out as Psalms 37 accrostic 7,20,34. And the example given in Ezekiel 28 speaking of satan`s sentence to die that makes him the son of perdition, anyway, I think when a spirit dies that its going to be painful and that's because of what Jesus said in the Gospel. Sounds like chewing your tongue off with your teeth. Maybe its the make up of what a spirit is made of that makes it hard to kill and when it comes apart it`s not like flesh and just dead. But I don't know just what I read makes me think.

John tells us in His Gospel chapter 1:1 thru 4. The Word is God and He created all. So, God is Christ Jesus. Yahveh came and died on the Cross and thru the name of Jesus we have credentials if we believe, ( Isaiah 45:21God is Our Saviour )He gave up His life for our sins, we ask in the name of Jesus. God said it to us! Check Proverbs 8:31 at creation. But the Book of Job where got tell of creation in chapter 38 in verse 7 includes every soul created. In Genesis the first age was destroyed, well, sunk in water and washed real good. In that flood of Jeremiah. Water gone and no Noah or family. In Noah`s flood the water receeded. It took time. As we read 2 Peter 3:5 tells us of the world of old and in 6 tells us completely flooded and we read of God getting mad in Jeremiah 4:22. Then Peter says in 7. This world I'm standing on now is for fire. God burns all the evil off it. So, when He said that He was telling us we were gona look exactly as we do, then and now. REPLENISH! 2nd time around.God wouldn't ask us to do something unless He Himself wouldn't do it.he loves us.

As for the light thing some guy mentioned genesis 1:1 God created the heavens and the earth - what it DOES NOT SAY heavens and then the earth. Some Assume the the action of creating the earth and heavens were seperate this scripture shows they were not.That goes for everything already in the heavens too (stars planets moons) Verse 3 shows that thier was light before vegetation and obviously the sun how else could light be there? Take this to note Moses was writing this from the view on the surface of the earth of course inspired by Jehovah God ( 2 timothy 3:16) ( Psalm 83:18)

Was Life Created Brochure (WTBTS)?- Genesis acount

A careful consideration of the Genesis account reveals that events starting during one “day” continued into one or more of the following “days.” For example, before the first creative “day” started, light from the already existing sun was somehow prevented from reaching the earth’s surface, possibly by thick clouds. ( Job 38:9) During the first “day,” this barrier began to clear, allowing diffused light to penetrate the atmosphere.
On the second “day,” the atmosphere evidently continued to clear, creating a space between the thick clouds above and the ocean below. On the fourth “day,” the atmosphere gradually cleared to such an extent that the sun and the moon were made to appear “in the expanse of the heavens.” ( Genesis 1:14-16) In other words, from the perspective of a person on earth, the sun and moon began to be discernible. These events happened gradually.
The Genesis account also relates that as the atmosphere continued to clear, flying creatures—including insects and membrane-winged creatures—started to appear on the fifth “day.”
The Bible’s narrative allows for the possibility that some major events during each day, or creative period, occurred gradually rather than instantly, perhaps some of them even lasting into the following creative days.

Read the Parable of the Sower at the end Christ explains it. The devil sows his lunatic children. What children,kenites, sons of cain. The tree of good & evil, the serpent. We are all trees, some seed is broadcast by God & some from the wicked one. Ez. 28 will tell u satan. Prince little rock trrus was in the garden of God.

who was God talking to when he said " let US make man in OUR image ?

Isaiah 45:18 tells u truth of creation. Genesis 1:2 forth wod " was" Hayah is became without form. Jeremiah 4:22 and down falls the cities no Noah in that flood. We were Re-plinished. 2 Peter 3:5 or 15 that world that was sunked in water this one I'm standing on is for fire. God`s gona fry evil when He returns. Not a Lamb this time. So watch out satan comes as. A wolf in sheep clothing.

God is Light. Light grows veggies. God seperated the children. Of the day from the children of the night. We are solar and they are lunatic`s

The difference is Adam filled the earth Noah refilled the earth. God told Adam to be fruitful and multify. Meaning? The bible being transilated by men may loose proper termanology but thank God we are taught by our personal instructor namely Jesus Christ Amen?

IT IS ABSULUTELY THE BEST. ONE MUST BE CAREFULL TO PUT HUMAN RESTRICTION ON A POWER FULL AND ALMIGHTY GOD. DON'T TRY AND TELL GOD WHAT MUST HAVE BEEN FIRST AND SECOND. HE DID IT HIS WAY AND LOOK, IT IS PERFECT!! PRAISE GOD AND DON'T TRY TO BE A GOD!

verse 3-5 talks about light being created on the first day.

verse 9-13 talks about the earth created on the 3rd day, how can you have a night and day with out the earth? the day depends upon the rotation of the earth
light is created on the 1st day but
verse 14-19 the cause of light; sun!!! moon stars created on 4th day... how can the cause of light be created on the 4th day, when light was created on the 1st day?




how can the vegetation come into existence before sunlight and without sunlight?

Your understanding of the word season in Gen 1:14 is WRONG. The hebrew word for season is moed and does not measn , winter summer, autumn and spring, it means appointed times, festivals, assembly, These are appointed times for God's system of worship throughtout the year for mankind to observe.

we need full detail of Genesis Chapert 2 Verse 7 (Word "nostrils)

Glad I was able to help. Didn't mean to come off as agruementive. But I learned that the best commentator of the Bible is the Bible - comparing spiritual things with spiritual ( 1 Cor. 2:13). Lexicons, concordances, Hebrew/Greek interlinears etc. are not spiritual. Those are man's take on God's words. For example, in Genesis 1:28, the word "replenish". A lot of fundamentalists say that word should read "filled" instead of "replenished", as the Bible says. Their reasoning for this is because they don't believe that God is telling Adam to re-populate the Earth. They appeal to the Webster's 1828 dictionary for the definition. While it is true that replenish can mean to initially "fill", it does mean to "re" fill, you still can't take that away, like in refinish, refurbish,re-do, etc. You put a "re" in front of something, that means to do something again that was done before. But when you force replenish in the AV to mean "fill", you're missing a lot of commentary the Holy Spirit is trying to show you. There's a reason the King James translators translated the Hebrew word as replenish, instead of fill. If you look at Genesis 9:1, God gave Noah the same commission as Adam.The population of the earth was destroyed during Noah's flood, and God gave Noah a commission to repopulate it. The Hebrew word for replenish in Gen. 1:28 and 9:1 is the same word back in Gen 1:22,yet the translators used fill that time instead of replenish. Now critics of the King James Bible would call this an "unfortunate translation", and insist that replenish be changed to fill in all 3 verses. If you look in a modern translation like the NIV, NASV, HCSB etc you'll see they did change replenish to fill. But the Holy Spirit makes this distinction in the KJB for a reason, because as I said above, God gave the same commission to Noah after the earth's population was destroyed through the flood.

Well thank you guys for your input. I do understand what ya'll are saying. I reread Gen and Gen 1:5 says "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." So the days in Genesis are just 24 hours.

Good explanation Steven Wilder! Glad ya'll said something and I reviewed it.

Sometimes I just have to try to stop myself from connecting ideas and making assumptions. So much to learn in the Bible. Everyday I learn something new. :)

The "days" in Genesis 1: 5-31 are 24 hr periods,("and the evening and the morning where the first day, etc) not 1000 yr periods. You can't tie in 2 Peter 3:8 into the 6 creation days in Genesis 1 to make those 6 days 1000 yr days, they are 24hr days. That interpretation is called the "Day Age" theory, all I said is 2 Peter 3:8 is where the passage comes from, and again I'll say 2 Peter 3:8 has nothing at all to do with the Genesis creation narrative, the Genesis narrative is 24 hr days, not 1000 year days.

genesis speaks of the beganing and the for our understanding on what was and what is to come ,knowing disobdiants have no place in Gods will

Jane, if you believe what the Bible is actually SAYING, you'll see that for one thing: the passage you quoted about the definition of a "day" comes from 2 Peter 3:8 - "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." It says nothing whatsoever about a thousand years being a day TO US. The seven days of creation in Genesis is a prophetic type of the seven thousand years of human history, with the last 1000 years of the reign of the Lord's Kingdom on earth ( Rev. 21)being the day of rest.

Genisis is the greatest book in the bible. If one does not understand the fullness of knowledge of this book, one will certainly not only be lost in his scriptural understandings of today, but he/she will be continially confused, and never understand the middle or the end of the wonderful story of our GOD,YYVH, and His Saviour,Yeshua, Jesus Christ. I too enjoy, studying with Pastor Arnald Murray. I must say that His teachings are mostly, right on the money, as he says, it's so easy to understand, that a 10 year old has no problem. I see only a few misunderstandings of the word, in his teaching, versus, all other teachers, whom seem to go into another deminsion than the one I know and live in, everytime they teach. And they seem to have a different deminsion from which to teach each subject. One of these mustakes,is the same that every teacher that I know, misses a most obvious point in interpreting, the meaning of Peter, when He said, that with God, one day is as one thousand years. One can know, for sure that He did not mean that littlerally. Here is how we know. For that phrase to litterally mean that 1 day is the same as 1,000 years with God, then one must come to the conclusion that God experiences Night. WHAT DID I SAY?!!!!!!!!!! The God that I serve has never and shall never experience night/NEVER!!!!!!!!!!. Sorry for the reality check folks. Stop doing what the people whom peter was talking to, were doing. "trying to figure out how God tells time so they could know when he's coming" Peter could have said that 1,000,000 years with God is as 1 day. Also we can remember this understanding when reffering to Genesis on the 6th day, God, thru the hand of Jesus, created man,(nationalities except the jewish one, whom Jesus came thru), and all plants. Remimber now, the words says that as he created the Jewish Adam that he had not yet a man to farm, as he had made the others on the 6th fishers and hunters. And then it said that because He, God, had not yet caused it to rain,(said by God on the 8th day), had Peter's words been literal, all people/animals and plants would have perished, if the 2 days truely meant 2000 years. Peter was truely saying stop that and understand, that God has no time clock He is the time clock. In answer to this same querry, at an earlier time, Jesus said, learn the word,and watch for the signs,(he was speaking of the signs given buy the prophets before him, accompied with the illustration of the fig tree).What say you? COOL teacher Arnold Murray If there's anyone who can tell me how I might be wrong, it will be you. Go at it, friend. I love and bless every person who loves to study, not argue, this wonderful word. Jim Snyder

I noticed some people were commenting/asking what is a "day". Well from what I learned - "ONE DAY" to God is a "THOUSAND YEARS" to us.

So I think that each "DAY" God created something it really took a "THOUSAND YEARS".

I believe that there were people of different races created on the 6th day, God rested on the 7th day, and then created Adam on the 8th day.

Which would mean that there were people here on earth two thousand years before Adam was created.
Adam was purposefully created so that Jesus will be born and save us.

I know many people believe different things and have different opinions. I try to only believe what I read in the bible with my own eyes. I would not express my beliefs if I didn't believe it with all my heart. I am not a expert but a student just sharing what I been learning. I like to study with Shepards Chapel. Arnold Murray reads the bible word for word and helps explain things.

"Replenish" Does that not mean that there must have been something here before to "replenish"?

I think this is beautiful. And thank God for the Heavens and Earth and sea. May God Bless all of you my brothers.. :-)

I have read most of the comments, and with all due respect to those who commented. The scriptures can't be interpited but only through prayer and the Holy Sprit.