Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 20

Thanks this helps me when I don't have a bible

it's really and it's nice.

This is so beautiful god bless everyone

Jeffrey Davis Hi you can look up and read about the 8 watches Biblically in our 24 hour day. Also judean time was sunset to sunset first watch 6-9pm, second watch 9-12pm, third watch 12-3am, fourth watch 3-6am, fifth watch 6-9am,6th watch 9am-12, 7th 12-3pm, 8th watch 3-6pm. Its been a 24 hr day since Genesis there are corresponding scriptures to the watches throughout Gods word. In His Service

Are the days believed to be 24 hour days as we know them or are the days longer periods of time? What support is there for either belief?

hi there is it the king james Bible O

Is man a perfect creature? In relation to what we see in the Garden of Eden ,yes.

Satan wants us to "be as God"? Being as God is much different than being God! Being God is being perfect in His being, in all His perfection!

Being "as" God is quite a step down, even too the ground! The distance between heaven and earth, between earthy and heavenly! This earth the evil one slides on, who is cautious in all his ways.

Even in His innocence Man has been given a great freedom, to discern these things. Called thinking and reasoning.

Mans disobedience to himself is what brought the great mistake we see today. The separation from His very being! This being a true being, eternal, perfect and everlasting! Being is the creation, it is truly the Father of us ALL!

This same Father you hear and see now, whom u rejected has now spoken through the Son. This Son who spirit is Alive given to all who trust Him.

This same spirit that was from the beginning, and exists even now. You see but u cannot see. You hear but you do not hear? How is it u do not perceive?

Acknowledging the Father is acknowledging yourself! Knowing who you are is knowing your being! If, you know these things, happy are ye!

This is an inheritance that no one can take away! The Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit are ALL ONE!

Repentance is needful! It is what leads us back to our being! Being one with the Father the Son ,the Holy Spirit!

Hi Loretta.

Isn't it funny we all can come up with 5 different explanations but yet say the same thing. "We don't know". LOL

God bless.

So, I guess I am not so ignorant of the Bible. I don't know either!

Thanks to all of you.

Brother Jesse, not the United States, US (Flesh) has to be destroyed by the Word of God, written and LIVING (Christ in US).

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Wesley's Notes for 2 Thessalonians 2:8

And then - When every prince and power that restrains is taken away. Will that wicked one - Emphatically so called, be revealed. Whom the Lord will soon consume with the spirit of his mouth - His immediate power. And destroy - With the very first appearance of his glory.

People's Bible Notes for 2 Thessalonians 2:8

2Th 2:8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed. After the hindering power is removed. Whom the Lord shall consume. The Wicked power will be destroyed by the Lord's coming, and will continue to exist, possibly, until that event.

yes please it speaks about the stature of the united states

Earl,

Do you honestly believe that 2 Thessalonians 2:8 is talking about the United States? From what I see in the next few verses that follow, it is referring to the antichrist.

How do you come to the conclusion that it is the US?

Amen and Amen, Brother S Spencer, we can't just be wounded by the Word of God ( Revelation 13:3). We have to DIE (be killed) by the Word of God ( Revelation 13:10).

2 Thessalonians 2:8 An then shall that Wicked (US, children of Satan) be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume ( Hebrews 12:29), with the spirit of his mouth (Words of God), and shall DESTROY with the brightness of his coming ( Colossians 1:27 CHRIST IN US).

Hi Loretta.

I meant to say If God never created Satan and would have just created "MAN" would man have turned out rebellious and evil? Perhaps so. ECT.....

God bless

Hi Loretta.

You are correct, God knows all things. He even knew Satan would fall and deceive man.

Knowing this you know about as much as everybody. So with that being said I will give you my answer which would sound a lot like sister Dianne's and brother Earls, but I will say it in three word! I DONT KNOW. There is nothing given in scripture on this matter.

Another question is could creating Lucifer the way he did and knowing he would fall be a part of Gods redemption plan? Who knows?

Another question and this one might a little easier to answer, If God never created Satan and would have just created Satan would man have turned out rebellious and evil? Perhaps so. We know during the millennium Satan will be chained a thousand years and man will be under the reign of Christ and there will still be death and sin. After the Devil is loosed again he will deceive the nations again. With that being said, why did God create a rebellious man?

Now we come to part of Brother Earl's answer.

Romans 9:20-23. Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

"Perhaps this can apply to Lucifer as well."

Here's a side note on Satan. He was created perfect. Ezekiel 28:15.

He fell because of pride. Ezekiel 28:17. and this caused him to want to be like the most high! Isaiah 14:12-14.

He was created perfect and by this he wanted to be worshiped.

Is not that what he ask the Lord Jesus to do in Mathew 4:9. This is also one of mans biggest problems as well, desiring praise and glory for ourselves.

God bless.

Loretta God Created all things in the beginning after the council of His will and since God knows everything he knew what was going to happen and what he had to do to fix it. That being said everything he created I.E. angels and man had freedom of will. Lucifer in the beginning was Top angel or messenger when transgression was found in him He changed into the devil or satan. In the garden of eden the serpent one of the descriptions for how satan works tricked Eve and gave the fruit to adam. In the garden Adam had complete control over Gods creation When the serpent i.e. satan tricked eve and they broke Gods only commandment all that authority and power became the devils Gospel of Luke 4:4 The devil said to Jesus christ all this power will I give thee for that is delivered unto me and to whomsoever I will I give it. Now thank God that Jesus Christ bought back everything spiritually that the enemy stole and Gods will will be done on earth as it is in heaven in the end revelation.

Sister Loretta:

Romans 8:20 For the creature (CREATION) was made (by God through Christ) subject to vanity (to sin), NOT WILLINGLY (creation had no say in the matter). BUT by REASON (total knowledge and wisdom) of HIM (GOD) who hath subjected the same (CREATION) in HOPE (redemption and deliverance by the WORKS of God through Christ),

Romans 8 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature (CREATION) WAITETH (till the second resurrection) for the manifestation (first resurrection) of the sons of God (The SEED of GOD).

Romans 8:21 But the creature (CREATION) ITSELF also shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (the GRAVE) into the GLORIOUS LIBERTY of the children of God.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES he might gather IN ONE all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even IN HIM:

Acts 3:21 Whom the HEAVEN (Son of God) must receive until the TIMES OF RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS, which God hath spoken by the mouth of his holy prophets since the world begin.

John 3:13 And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN.

Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery...CHRIST IN YOU...

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Romans 9:23 And that he might make know the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he hath afore prepared unto glory,

Romans 11:31 Even so have these now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Loretta Hopson Go to top of page go into discussion by book and chapter then line up what is shared with scripture that's an option. God Bless

Question...I have been ask this several times and I do not have complete answers

God created all things. Did He create the angels? Did He create Satan? God knows all things.

Why did Satan come about? God did know what he would do to mankind..right??

it was great! Thanks for sending me! allprases!!!! to the most high!

Hiya Chris Just something you need to ponder.No pun intended, Jesus said these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto Babes and sucklings ,So the bible is mostly hid spritually speaking. Remember without a parable he spoke not unto them . Everything was hid spritually speaking.The carnal man understands not the things of the Spirit as Jesus told Peter flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you but my Father in heaven.These things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes which is that babe that is born in us from his seed the word resulting in a new creature which is spirit the H.G. That Heavenly Child as we have born the image of the early we must also bear ( birth ) the image of the heavenly which is our new innerman . Remember Israel were sola scriptura, they knew the bible every jot and title but Israel stoned almost every prophet that God sent them and rejected the Christ . Jesus asked 1 day which of the prophets have not your Father stoned. Bible knowledge alone cannot save us .Its gotta come via divine revelation . Which is the seed of Sower sown in our hearts resulting in a heavenly birth of Christ in us which is the H.G. the Child of Promise not the written word but the living word ( his voice ) today if you will hear his voice harden not you hearts . Chris the parable of the sower and his precious seed is the multiplication of very God in humanity via that living word as Peter said being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the word of God that livieth and abideth for ever. Remember what Jesus said to whom the word came it made them Gods , Remember Jesus SAID search the Scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but it is them that testify of me the living WORDS. The GRAND CHILDREN ,Jesus said the good seed ( his seeds ) are the Children of the Kingdom . k thanks for your time no pun intented .

Hi Alex. Actually, I too was reading from Exodus 3:15: "And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations."

My Bible tells me that God spoke to Moses & to tell the Israelites that it was He that sent Moses to them. And what was the Name that he should give them? Verse 14: "I AM". "I Am that I Am" is generally understood as 'God's Being as absolute, incomprehensible, unchanging & eternal'. And in case they couldn't grasp that Name, God confirmed that He was the same God, the God of their fathers, Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob.

What you read as 'God's Name is Abraham, Isaac & Jacob' because of the part of the verse that reads, "this is my name for ever", actually refers to God's Name being "I AM, Who IS the God OF Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob".

Then the rest of your belief of a "God, Son & Granson" (sic), or a "heavenly Granson which is the H.G. the Son that comes out of Christ loins", or "Christ is the one who IS GONNA sows that seed thus he is the father of the H.G." is irrelevant, erroneous, indeed bordering on blasphemy. Whoever or whatever has put such strange things in your mind needs to be rooted out & you need to re-read the Scriptures as given in a plain, intelligible manner & not trying to dig so deep for 'hidden' meanings thus making God's Holy Word infused with error & gibberish. May the Lord help us to read & understand His Word as He has plainly given to us.

In Ex 3, God did not tell Moses his name was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob but the God, or Elohim, of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob. He told Moses to tell them Ayah Asher Ayah, I will be, sent him unto them meaning that he could manifest himself as anything he wanted to be. Then he told Moses that his name was Yahweh.

Amen and Amen, Brother Alex:

The TRUE Israel was ALWAYS the Israel that would be CREATED by the death and resurrection of Christ.

Everything in the OLD; ONLY, pointed to the NEW.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh (Old Israel):

Romans 2:29 But HE IS A JEW (New Israel), which is one inwardly; and circumcision is of the heart, IN THE SPIRIT, and not in the letter (flesh); whose praise is not of men but of God.

When you are BORN AGAIN, you are no longer a gentile, but a TRUE JEW.

The true house of Israel and temple of God are his SAINTS, his OFFSPRING, his INHERITANCE, his POSSESSIONS, bought and PAID FOR.

Psalms 2:8 Ask of me (my Son), and I (the Father) shall GIVE THEE (my Son) the heathen for thine INHERITANCE, and the uttermost parts for the earth for a POSSESSION.

Psalms 2:9 And thou (my Son) shall break them with a rod of iron; and thou (my Son) shall dash them in pieces as a potter's vessel.

We are the pot and he is the potter.

Christ WILL keep breaking you, UNTIL; you AGREE with him.

Matthew 5:25 AGREE with you adversary (God the Father) quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him (while you are ALIVE); lest at any time the adversary (God the Father) deliver you to the judge (Christ), and the judge (Christ) deliver you to the officer (Death), and thou be cast into prison (the Grave).

The wages of SIN (UNBELIEF) is DEATH. BELIEVING is LIFE.

is there a verse forbidding to hide your gace

GM Chris GBU But you are leaving out Exodus 3 : 15 God is telling Moses His name is Abraham Issac and Jacob and that is my Name Forever and Memorial to all Generations ,Why wd God tell Moses that is name is Abraham, Isaac and Jacob simply b/c these 3 men are a Posterity of the nation of Israel ,A type of the kingdom of God the very kingdom of God, The very fact that we have a Father and Son begs the Question of a Granson and an Israel of GOD. Without this Abraham Issac and Jacob ,Father, Son and Granson scenario there cannot be an Israel of God. Its Gods Memorial to ALL Generation , Even the Davidic Kingdom was Father, Son and Granson and Our Lord indentifies with this Davidic Kingdom saying I AM THE ROOT AND THE OFFSPRING OF DAVID THE BRIGHT and the Morning star.( His memorial ) Isaiah describes the Davidic Kingdom as Jesse , David and and Solomon. Father Son and Granson in Isaiah 11: 1.Meaning there is gonna be heavenly Granson which is the H.G. th Son that comes out of Christ loins ( his seed the word) When he breathe on them that was his word which is his seed ,they were impregnated with his seed the word .Thats y Jesus tells them b/c i have spoken these words sorrows have filled your hearts a spritual pregnancy. The Child of Promise which is the H.G. was not born till Pentacost some 50 days later. Chris remember God wd NOT let David the son build the Temple, God wd only let Solomon the Granson, that son that came out of Davids loins build the temple . It means that the Granson which is the seed ,the word that Christ sows in our hearts is gonna build the temple in our hearts. He is truly the multiplication of God Almighty ,Its our bodies that is gonna be the Temple of the H.G. the Granson IS THE H.G. Simple b/c Christ is the one who IS GONNA sows that seed thus he is the father of the H.G. Just like Abraham,Issac n Jacob Father ,son and Granson. his Name for ever and my memorial to all generations. k

Hello Alex. Thanks for your comments which I have seen previously written to others. To respond to all what you've stated would take too long & be tedious, since I would challenge you on almost everything you stated. However, to note what you wrote: "God told Moses that his Name was Abraham Issac and Jacob." My Bible tells me that God spoke to Moses in this manner: "I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." There would be a big difference in God's Name being Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob and God being the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob.

I understand that you have an agenda to push here, but any Bible reader, & particularly those well studied in the Scriptures, would discern that what you've shared is highly spiritualized & bears little resemblance to the revealed Scriptures & the correct 'dividing' of them. Thank you for your time.

Amen Brother Chris!!

Thank you for that great declaration of the trinity.

God bless you.

Hello Melanie. I think you're referring to the Old Testament Laws & the harsh punishment given should they be broken. Some laws brought on the death penalty while others didn't. They sound very unpalatable to us now because we've been conditioned by society & government to accept most crimes as being only worthy of some degree of punishment, but in the Divine Judgement, all sin & all wicked acts against others brings on a severe penalty. If "the wages of sin is death" ( Romans 6:23), then both physical death & spiritual death has "passed onto all men".

In Leviticus chapter 20, we get a list of those crimes that the Lord prescribed the death penalty. And this was so because God declared, "And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine." ( Leviticus 20:26). The people were given ample warning, so it took a wilful disobedience & rebellion against God for a person to purposely pursue those crimes; & judgement & death was certain. And yet, if the people brought & offered a sacrifice of repentance (Leviticus chapter 5), they were forgiven for certain crimes.

Likewise, even though that type of punishment is generally not given for the crimes we see today, we know that God has not overlooked it, neither the disease of our hearts. And that is why He sent His Son to this world: that by His Sacrifice for us, He has provided us the only way that God could accept us - when we come in repentance for our sins & in faith in Jesus' Death for us. And for those who rebel against God's Word & His Sacrifice, our courts certainly won't punish them, but we can be assured that all will stand guilty before God & experience an eternity of punishment. "He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses" ( Hebrews 10:28); our laws & justice have little resemblance to Divine requirements. Yet we can thank God that His Mercy, through His Son, avails to us all. But one day, even that door will close.

Hiya Christ GM But you do not understand the Godhead , Its very simply ,Its exactly like Abraham Issac and Jacob . Father Son and Granson 3 distinct beings but 1 Posterity ( 1 bloodline ) . That resulted in the nation of Israel Just as Abraham offered up his only Son Isaac so God Almighty offered up his only son Jesus . When they saw Jesus with that crown of thorns on his head they remembered that RAM CAUGHT IN THE thicket by his horns .The Godhead is simply Father, Son and GRANSON , Thats y God told Moses that his Name was Abraham Issac and Jacob. And thats y God, his Father made that great Promise that Christ his only son wd be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven,And thats y the Sower will go forth to sow his Precious Seed the Living Word in humanity that It might initiate a birth of Christ in all men . Making us Gods as Jesus Said to WHOM THE WORD CAME IT MADE THEM GODS and the scripture CANNOT BE BROKEN . Just as Abraham was multiplied as the sands of the seas so God is gonna be multiplied as the Stars of HEAVEN. Thus there will be an Israel of GOD VIA THE SEEDS OF Christ, This is what God wanted to tell Moses at the bush when he told Moses that his name was Abraham , Issac, and Jacob this is my NAME FOR EVER and my MEMORIAL TO ALL GENERATIONS I.E. there is gonna be an Israel of God. Its God himself that wants a posterity,Thats what ABRAHAM means exaulted FATHER, Ya gotta realize the very reason Jesus died is that he might be Multiplied as the stars of heaven ( that he might bring many Sons into Glory via his seed the Word ) even in the natural when a seed dies it multiplies as that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the Child of Promise, that results from his seed being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of God which was the Promise, Behold i send the Promise of my FATHER UPON YOU. which was baptism of the H.G. K MI VOY