Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 50

Genesis 1:6 KJV

(6) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

The "firmament" or "expanse" is a metaphor about the opening of the hearing ear and the "waters" are people ( Revelation 17:15).

The hearing of the Word of Truth from Heaven among many people divides them: the believers from the unbelievers.

Even the word for "ear" in Hebrew (ozen) means "broadness, to expand".

Job 36:10 KJV

(10) He openeth also their ear to discipline, and commandeth that they return from iniquity.

God opens up our ears to His knowledge that is sent from Heaven via the Spirit. The "firmament" is called "Heaven" for what we hear is from there. Jesus said often: he that has an ear, let him hear

Revelation 3:6 KJV

(6) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

The good news is reported unto us with Holy Spirit is sent down from Heaven

1 Peter 1:12 KJV

(12) Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Jesus healed the deaf man by looking into Heaven as He opened up his ears. The "firmament" or expanse is the opening up of our ears to God's knowledge from Heaven.

Mark 7:33-34 KJV

(33) And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue;

(34) And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word/Saying of God who said "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." The "waters" above the Heaven believe upon what they hear while those waters under do not believe. The "firmament" is firm and supports the waters above as they believe in what they hear.

Sadly, this type of behaviour has been known to happen & leads to many of the congregation leaving the Church looking for somewhere else to worship. What happened to the Elders who appointed this man to lead the fellowship? You mentioned the 'founders' of the Church, but every Bible-based Church has to have elders that govern & administer the Church's affairs. They are primarily responsible for who leads, teaches & shepherds the flock. If only the one man is the Elder cum Pastor, then the Church is subject to his direction only & is not operating as Christ intended His Church to be. Is there any possibility for the concerned members to approach the man to discuss this matter & alert him to the biblical standards? However, ultimately only God can change his attitude & direction, or else, members need to look elsewhere to worship.

Verse 20-21 are saying the Lord is leading and we are to follow Him. He will help us.

By staying close to Him, he will build you up on your most holy faith. Your understanding of his wisdom will abound and be a treasury.

explain proverbs 8:21

I would like to know how do you regain your Church after someone has come in and after 3 short years has run the founders of the Churches Family off and almost all the older congregation off that has been there from day one the founders passed with in the last 5-6 years This man was brought in to Pastor the Church but has completely turned it upside down and taken it over..These people have no one to ask how they can get it back..All they can do is pray and are so afraid that he will sell it.. Thank you

Thanks D.J. Awesome. Good to know that.

Hi Chris. Peace. I see Genesis ch 1 as a parable of the regeneration of man. Yes, I think that verses 4 and 5 have a bearing. We respond to the Light of the Father with light...that is, having fellowship with Him by the doing of His commandments. We become children of light when we have His Light within us and believe. The believers, the children of light, are the children of the Day (God called the light "Day"). As Jesus said...

John 12:36 KJV

(36) While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.

Verses 14 and 15 have to do with His government....the 2 greatest commandments.

7 years later this comment is still the most helpful. Thank you, this blessed me today!

Mike and Chris,

In response to your comment concerning Genesis 1:3.

The "Light" of Genesis 1:3 is the Hebrew word "owr" meaning; to be or to make luminous. This Light is is the Light of the Father Himself.

The "luminary" created by God on the 4th day in Genesis 1:14-19 is the Hebrew word "maowr," a derivative of the primary word given in Genesis 1:3, and simply means a light, or a luminous body.

Mike, after you read Gen 1:3, have a look at verses 4, 5, 14-18. Do you think that these other verses have any bearing on verse 3? Though, your NT references were lovely to read & meditate on.

John,

The tribulation period is a seven year period. To be more technical, the entire seven year period is known as the tribulation period, and the last 3 1/2 years is known as the Great Tribulation.

This last 3 1/2 years would be the time of Jacob's trouble as spoken of in Jeremiah 30:7. We see at the end of Verse 7 that it says "but he shall be saved out of it." This is referring to Judah and Israel. They will be spared from those last 3 1/2 years. These will be the 144,000 Jews who are told to flee into the mountains, probably the rock city of Petra. God will keep them from being harmed.

You can search the word Tribulation when you enter this website: type it in the search box and copy the places in New Testament only, on a piece of paper.

QUESTION

Is the time of the Tribulation a 7 year period of time (from Daniel)?

I have heard the time of the Tribulation to be the time of Jacob's Trouble" ( Jeremiah 30:7)

Genesis 1:3 KJV

(3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

What God is really saying in Genesis 1:3 that He IS (Hebrew: hayah) Light instead of "let there be light". The "I AM" is light "I AM" light.

This is the first message to the earth that had become without form (with the form of His righteousness) and void of the knowledge of God and the heart of mankind became darkened. Mankind needs to have the knowledge of God declared unto him.

This is the message which we have heard of Him and is declared unto us: that God is lightand this message is found from the beginning in Genesis 1:3.

1 John 1:5 KJV

(5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

The message was from the beginning in Genesis 1:3 that was heard..the Word of life. This Word or Saying of life is that "God is light" and in Him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:1 KJV

(1) That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

This light shines within our very own hearts when we hear the voice of Jesus who comes to open up the Scriptures to our ears. It is the witness of God within us about His Son whose voice we are to hear. It shines in a dark place (the heart). The bright and morning star arises within our hearts when we hear the voice of the Son interpreting the Scriptures.

2 Peter 1:19-20 KJV

(19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: (20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

"And there was light"as we are to become children of light when we have that light within us. While we have the light, we are to believe in the light so that we may be children of light.

The mixed-up world of hybrid animals ...

sciencenewsforstudents.org

This articles explains how species changes as scientists believe that new species are created by something called evolution although they are suppose to know these concepts that are in this article as it is about hybridization a well known concepts and wk ll taught in universities auth many biologists and it is even learned in first year biology even if you only attend one sinister and flick bit get say 55 or so in biology, I learned it in 1961 and taught Darwin ridiculous when he discovered 21 new specie es of birds on those beautiful Gali islands, with the big turtle that he rode on, how exciting.

Beautiful pictures and e it explains hybridization really well about those bids what beautiful colours and that old lion or trigger is fantastic poor thing,

You and I can stand in the same prayer line.

My eyes especially. Your faith makes me not feel isolated.

For so long, I had to hear from my niece and her mother how damaged my great nephew is. Negativity drags me down. So I started praying for their whole family! They have 2 other sons with various problems. I try to help my sister to have an improved spiritual life but she refuses to give up self imposed diseases (demonic) and the suitcase of pills; she's a pharmacist without a degree. I can't help her but I can love her and pray for them all.

Unbelief really hurts, huh?

I thought my hip was breaking so I was suited up in the armor for days waiting for my neighbor to go to work so I could do some loud spiritual warfare. This is my 2nd day of no pain. I get to exercise tomorrow :D

I have this sense about you: that Jesus loves you so very much. You know lots. That is Jesus enjoying your company.

Sometimes too much activity cuts in on the time we spend in His Presence: just sitting and listening for Holy Spirits voice. Hearing a song the Holy Spirit sings.

I'll pray for you. You pray for my son who blames God for the death of 2 brother-like friends. We'll share testimonies.

Tell your neighbor I said howdy from Texas.

Incidentally Evolution that man develops from apes, is junk and foolishness. Evolution that the mind comes from the brain is foolishness. Universities that teach such things are dubious.

Told you the wrong video: Revival in the Land (by Carman). The one with the picture of the devil (orange ish)

YouTube

Talk about corporate!

It may be that autism is a palsy and easily cured with the prayers of Faith.

And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing ALL MANNER of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the PALSY; and he healed them.

If our Faith is small concerning some illnesses; it's hard for us to trust Jesus. People have to go through the New Testament and feed their Faith just to receive a miracle. What the doctors can't do, Jesus wants to and can. If the Church worldwide got radical against autism...wouldn't that be a testimony to Jesus?

We don't lay down and take it. My nephew has it; I've been praying for him; he's in the service now becoming a Seal.

Corporate prayer at your church or one that is tough on demon oppression, can unite their corporate faith and cast that demon of autism out! When Jesus gets involved, good things can happen.

Most important; be careful of your verbal conversations of doubting faith. Don't be Doubting Thomas. Pray and get all the faithless speech DELETED off the book. Your confessions should be full of hope and faith.

Conversation = Faith

It takes determination based on faith scripture. Pump it up and then see what Jesus does. What Satan meant for evil: to curse a life...will be turned to good; to give GLORY to Jesus (who still heals). On Sunday too :)

Remember! Corporate Prayer.

There are Christians beside you in church that look like Goliath in the faith department. Call up the old ladies too. We're talking about a kids life. God's got His people....

Go listen to 'Sunday's on the Way' by Carman, on youtube.

The earth "became" (Hebrew: hayah) without form and void...that is, it became without the form of God's righteousness and void of the knowledge of God as all are not righteous and have turned away out of the Way of righteousness and none understand:

Romans 3:10-12 KJV

(10) As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

(11) There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

(12) They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Darkness was upon the face of the deep as mankind's foolish heart (all together) had become darkened:

Romans 1:20-22 KJV

(20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

(21) Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

(22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

The Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters....holy men of God speak (waters = tongues, languages, etc) as they are moved by the Holy Spirit.

2 Peter 1:20-21 KJV

(20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

(21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

I am finish my research on autism of course and Also have a few health problems And poor eyesight and usually don't comment however I will answer briefly but to do justice to your question, it would take maybe two or three pages however I will answer like this. First of all, if these things affect the child to cause autism, or if anything else affects the child to cause all autism they must be a mechanism of action, aka, Mode of Action aka Mode of Development. Briefly, I thought that that Mode was hallucinations as I had hallucinated fpr several days when i was drugged when i was about 30; but in spite of the fact that any of the senses can be hallucinated' no one beloved it; and they said I would have to do research ti prove it. How do you do research to prove the obvious? Even Murphy's Law says that if a thing can happen; it will and when it rains, it will pour. The fact is however i=s that no one has even seen an infant or baby hallucinate...... I wonder why?

So, I did about 15 years of research; etc.

Now to answer your question, I have heard of young children having seizures after the immunization shot/ not sure which one? Do i think these things that u refer to cause Autism. Not in all cases for sure; but some maybe. So i don't go there although I do not disagree with you or any of the other anti vaccine people. I do know that Immunization works but I do not know if all those shots in young children are necessary. I do know that most cases are due to an atypical stimulation where just one of the senses are affected; and that plays over and over repetitiously and that always leads to fear development, hallucination and sudden Fight or flight.

I do not think anyone followed or accepted my research from the beginning, and there was always new research; but these things you referred to, were commented on several times but I have never done any research in that regard. My research was to find the cause and I did that in ever which way,

I enjoy all of the discussions and comments that I read; however, I am only interested in some things at this particular time of my life; and i can research them on the internet over time; but I also want Christian views and then also I thought that over time slowly I would enjoy my remaining years reading comments and slowly learning other favourite things as i was familiar a little bit with when i was a child. Once a man, twice a child; and i have person interest in these things as for example I love the 10 commandments but the problem is i get things mixed up a little; and i don't even know the first one and the most i can find is 9. So, That is my next priority and i was wondering if someone could tell me the first commandments; Is it just Thou shall have no other God before me. or do it continue as I think it do. What is the overall Christian view; and if it is one; what would the tenth one be?

if you are having trouble finding the Lords Prayer, enter debtor in the search engine, and it will bring up 6 responses, and the first one is

Matthew 6:12|View whole chapter|See verse in context

And forgive us our debts, as we forgive ourdebtors.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Let us sum it all up I think the Bible says. and the sole duty of man I think it say somewhere is to serve God. You do your best and that is it. You can't do more. So, no when to fold up and know when to hold up and know when to walk away and know when to fight. That's a gamblers song and you shouldn't gamble and so it sounds good and it was enticing but: but I don't necessarily agree with it,, well maybe a chord or 2 when I learn as i know what chords and notes are, But I do not want to loss my main point. The sole duty of man is to serve God. I an not sure where it is in the Bible but i think that it is there somewhere ,, probably in Jobs

look into the symptoms of autism and compare to the symptoms of mercury poisoning.

Thimerasal is another name for mercury used as a preservative in some vaccines.

Vaccine makers are exempted from lawsuits thanks to congress.

what kind of incentive do the vaccine makers have for safety if it costs them money and they can not be sued?

Yes some vaccines have mercury in them.

The point is that people will always question anything that you do, and I spent about 14 years researching autism and I only had a few followers, And nobody On Twitter ever commented on my research, And those who know me, never bothered, and a few people that read it said It was good research, and one highly qualified scientist, even wondered if I had found it in a cave in the Middle East, however I think he was joking, and he did tell me that it would B hard to get It's published without proper references, and it was, so I went on Twitter, but in spite of all of that, As far as I know, no one please my research, and I can understand why as research was always done as I said before by geneticists, Neuroscientist who study the brain only, and evolutionist etc. it was being done for So long, and people have believed them for so long, it is hard To change what you have believed all your lives. So all in all, I have researched many subjects as I'll be in vanity. I think people question everything regardless of how long you research it and regardless of what you find out about it because at the end I am only trying to prove what I said in the beginning of my autism research. And in fact I even came on this site at that time and I said something then in regards to the tree up to knowledge of good and evil, and no one ever responded to it. No one is interested in things that seem too complicated Who is conflicting with something that they believe particularly if it seems strange and weird and so I will not repeat what I said then as I feel the same today however today I have done the research on autism and at the beginning I went to people concerns with autism and I said I think hallucinations causes autism, and he does not know me, but he said you have to prove it first. And I did and I went back and gave them a book which I'm glad he never bothered to read and I never followed me back on,The point is that people will question anything knew but seldom accept it. vanity.

once again. I spoke in haste and so i apologize and I want to correct my mistake. I said that you are not God but i u indeed should not judge; and so I should have said, as far as I know you are not God but in reality; u may be as Gpd will we think take the image of man but I don't think he will come as anyone but himself, as he has no reason to, On the second thought, i feel certain I can say You are not God but you have being doing the work that he trained you for. Once again I am at peace with my soul.

Jesus came and Said you have made my house a den of thieves.

a letter to 7 churches, a song: Our Time Now (by Carman). euphoria, etc. your mom doing, corona What man can take it; Only a man of God trained to do What God has asked him to do as he asked God to do, and then he put u in contact with me on this site as I too also just came to couple the work that God trained me to do.

Jesus came and said that they have made my house a den of thieves; and they have and it continues to be dens for thieves. Can you explain the Sabbath and why we work on the sabbath, Can you tell me exactly in the Bible where I can find the lords prayer and the 10 commandments as all chapters I know where to find is Genesis 1, 2, 3 and sometime 4.

These other things that you talk about I think happened at the very beginning of creation when the arch angel and a number of ordinary angels rebelled, and they were cast into the sea of fire or someplace; all except the Devil; and he is still active every since, but people do not want to hear about those previous things as it frightens us. At least now, they have heard about it.



But like mine; your Jon that you were trained for is finished and like me you are not God and he don't need us; but we need him; and so we can now relax and listen to hymns and go on and off of this site advising maybe where we think our advise would benefit especially kids with the permission of their parents a or at least telling them to check with their parents if they are on this site or any site, but adults only accept advise when they ask for it and the final judgement is God's. Just let it be as with what judgement we judge; we will be judged.

peter to Mishael - in Reply on Genesis 1

I have done a few messages. i don't know if you have got them but I I agree with you and you have done a fantastic job in making people aware of problems of the seven churches and for that a special man was needed; one who cherished the scriptures and prayed for them and that prayer was answered and all things were revealed unto you, and you did a great job on that. I also find it stressful but once again I am at peace with my soul; and so i can do a cup of coffee and lie on my lawn chair; and relax in peace. It is time now I think for u also to beat peace with your soul and listen to the fine hymns and he singing of those hymns on u tube. I do that over and over and it help me relax and get over my arthritis; and finally. I also started to fast last Sunday; always wanted to as u are not suppose to do any work on Sunday, but I did it as I was thinking do animal fast and does not indeed fasting prove that we have a mind and that god created that with a breath of life; and indeed if God created it and said do it; then there I would be Blessing in it as i know that there is punishment as sin will visit 3 or 4 generations of the man who sins. SO be at peace with you soul; listen to hymns on u tube especially I am at peace with my soul. It get rid of all that bothers you even arthritis etc, a cure all, over time, and a lot od christuans do it in phase to the lord; that is how a lot of hymns were created and i particularly like Fanny crosbie; a wonderful blind christian, and she wrote hundreds even 1000 of hymns ....