Genesis Chapter 10 Discussion

who is the sun if lush and the suns of ed den

Hi Eric. The way I understand Genesis 6:3, is that the LORD is giving mankind 120 years of life till He wipes them out. So, "yet his days" don't refer to the 'new' lifespan of humans, but to the remaining days that man has on Earth. All would be wiped out, but Noah & his family "found grace in the eyes of the LORD". And within that time frame of 120 years, Noah was given the plans for building the Ark, collecting the wood & beams, building it, collecting the animals & food to sustain them all, until God shut the door & brought the rain.

It didn't take Noah that long to build the Ark (some have calculated the figure should be around 70 years), but from God's announcement of 120 years left for mankind's life on Earth, there would have been a long period (long, for us today) between the announcement & the start of the building work & the coming of the rain.

Here in Gen. 10, we see a quick rundown of the lineages of Ham and Japheth, and last but not least, Shem; but it is rather striking that for Ham and Japheth, no reckoning of their ages and lifespans appears to exist. Certainly not here... while on the other hand, Shem's male offspring are listed generally as having 400-500 year lifespans, apparently in direct contradiction to the remark of God in Gen. 6:3, that He will no longer strive with man, and will reduce his lifespan to 120 years.

It's not explicitly discussed after this (as far as I know), and Ham's and Japheth's lineages fade out of view, and obviously it's because Shem's lineage leads to the Messiah. And eventually we see this lineage lead to Abraham, whose lifespan was "only" 175 years, but it's probably safe to "read between the lines" here and assume Shem's offspring retained really long lifespans because they were in the lineage of the Messiah, while Shem's brothers' lineages shrank to 120 years after God's pronouncement in Gen. 6:3 and the imminent Flood.

Hi Caleb ...Good Question...The Cross at Calvary was to Atone for the sins of the world...But there is a 2 nd facet to the Cross which is Multiplication of Christ seed which is hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes the H.G which is the multiplication of Christ via his good seed .....Smite the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the little ones...Zech...13:7...Impling multiplication that great Promise...I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven...By the disobedience of 1 man sin was passed on to all the world no exceptions...Automatically to every PERSON ever born in their seed,.. thus there was none righteous no not one, And God wanted everybody righteous...Thus the blood of the lamb WILL BE passed on to everybody AFTER THE BOOK IS OPENED...In Adam we all die but in Christ we will all live...Plz note they don't sing that New song till after the book is opened.

Had he not died there wd have been only 1 Christ...But b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y he said unless a seed dies it will abide alone but if it dies it will bring forth much fruit...Impling many Christ,..Thats y he is saying Whosoever received one such Child in my name receiveth me...A baby Christ the H.G. That Child of Promise....That New Creature....nothin availeth any thing in Christ Jesus but a New Creature...Not Circumcision nor uncircumcision but a Baby Christ the H.G. is that New Creature....And if any man be in Christ Jesus he is a New Creature..Its very important that we understand this 2 nd facet of multiplication of the Cross...God Almighty swore by his very self when he made this Promise of multiplication of Christ seed the words of the book..That N.C.

1st facet of the cross was...Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world

2 nd facet is Multiplication.... Gen 22:17....I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven....Thus the sower and his seed the babes and sucklings Spirits.

Hi Caleb, salvation means to be saved from hell. John 3:16. Everyone will go to hell if not saved. Only those who genuinely choose to follow Jesus Christ will be saved. The link at the bottom that says Become a Christian has more verses.

One thing I'll add is its general Christian tradition to claim that you're immediately "saved" when you "accept" Jesus into your "heart", but that's not exactly what the Bible says. I'd carefully read all the verses, especially what Jesus says in the gospel books. I haven't found any verses that say we're saved on earth as soon as we utter magic words, or that we get to skip judgment day, but have found verses that say if we follow Jesus (including obedience) then we can have assurance of salvation. Verses talk about salvation to come. Basically, I think a lot of people are deceived into thinking they can take 2 seconds away from pursuing evil to "accept Christ" then return to their normal pursuit of the world. But the Bible says we are to become slaves to righteousness. It contradicts a lot of what you hear on TV or in mainstream Christianity which often tries to appease pop culture's morals instead of God's morals. The Bible says in the end many will cry out Lord Lord assuming they were saved but are not.

Do you follow Jesus?

Hello Caleb,

Genesis 2:15,16,17, Genesis 3:1-6, skipping parts Genesis 3:14,15, between the seed of Serpent - Revelation 20:2,

John 8:34, 1John 3, Romans 5, John 3:16-21, James 1:5, Proverbs 8:17,

Example, simple Salvation "GOD save me" many times in life threatening situations, & many times HE has. Psalms 18:3, Psalms 107:13, Psalms 44:7, Luke 18:42, Psalms 34:6,

Matthew 10:22, Hebrews 2, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Psalms 139,

Romans 10:13, context Romans 10, Everlasting Salvation, Isaiah 45:17, Acts 4,

1John 3:14, Job 38:17, Revelation 20, Psalms 49, Ecclesiastes 8:8, Romans 5, Revelation 21,

Hopefully these are helpful

Would you please explain for me deeply what salvation is?

And what the blood of christ did , and how we have to take the forgiveness from God

which we received through Jesus christ death?

Kay, Just beautiful!

Hi Roxanne,

God speaks to us through His Word, quickened to us by His Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth. It is safe for us to let the Word of God be the 'ruler', the 'measuring line', by which we walk, because it will keep us right and in line with the Lord! There are times we may get thoughts in our hearts, kind of like a 'still, small voice'; God can 'lay something on our hearts' BUT, anything we think we hear we must line up with God's Word. Our natural hearts, God says, are deceitful above all things and desperately wicked! We must not lean on our own understanding, but judge every thought by God's Word.

To fear God mean to 'reverence' God deeply. This godly fear grows as we read God's Word. His Word shows us how glorious He is, how mighty He is, how powerful He is, how truthful He is, how faithful He is, how kind He is, how merciful He is, how gracious He is, how righteous He is, how compassionate He is, how just He is, etc. etc.!!! To know God is to love Him and fear Him, i.e., to stand in awe of His splendid majesty, and submit to His sceptre, and give Him all the glory! Amen!

Grace and blessings to you!k

What are the scriptures related to:

1. Hearing from God personally.

2. How to fear God?

im not saying this to condone or encourage drinking alcohol but this chapter 9 is proof that wine has always been wine. and not grape juice as many insist it was indeed alcaholic wine that noah got drunk on

Despite what everyone else says, Ham saw his dad, and laughed and pointed at Noah.

The other 2 brothers shielded their eyes and covered their Dads nakedness, and did not make fun like Ham did.

How many of us have enjoyed a shower after a hot, sticky, hard day of work (like building an Ark);

Laid down on the bed naked and fell asleep instantly? ANYONE??

Genesis 9:20-23 KJV

[20] And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: [21] And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. [22] And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. [23] And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

Ham invaded his father's privacy just like when a child opens their parents door without knocking or introducing themselves . That is the wrong that Ham did. It's against Gods law for a child to uncover their parents nakedness even in the time of Noah, it was given to be written down by Moses, but during the time of Noah, this rule was already known.

His son had sexual relationship with his mother,.. Noah's wife,.. which also resulted her having a child ,..

Genesis 9:24

"And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him."

What is it that Noah's younger son had done?

Sons of Noah: Shem, Ham and Japheth

The Genesis flood narrative tells how Noah and his three sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, together with their wives, were saved from the Deluge to repopulate the Earth. ... In chapter 11 verses 10-26 a second list of descendants of Shem names Abraham and thus the Israelites.

In the Book of Jubilees (160-150 BC) the names of the wives of Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth are as follows:

* Wife of Noah - Emzara.

* Wife of Shem - Sedeqetelebab.

* Wife of Ham - Na'eltama'uk.

* Wife of Japheth - 'Adataneses.

In the Biblical view, the listed children of Japheth, Shem and Ham correspond to various historic nations and peoples. In the typical interpretation, these sons of Noah correspond to three races: European, Semitic, and African. Alternate divisions claim Euro-Asian Japhet, Semitic Shem, and Afro-Asian Ham.

The Genesis Rabba midrash lists Naamah, the daughter of Lamech and sister of Tubal-Cain, as the wife of Noah, as does the 11th-century Jewish commentator Rashi in his commentary on Genesis 4:22.

In the medieval midrash Parry, J. H. (ed.). "5:15". Book of Jasher. Translated by Moses, Samuel., the name of Noah's wife is said to be Naamah, daughter of Enoch.

Since the 17th century a number of suggestions have been made that relate the name Ham to a Hebrew word for "burnt", "black" or "hot", to the Egyptian word m for "servant" or the word m for "majesty" or the Egyptian word kmt for "Egypt".[4] A 2004 review of David Goldenberg's The Curse of Ham: Race and Slavery in Early Judaism, Christianity and Islam (2003) states that Goldenberg "argues persuasively that the biblical name Ham bears no relationship at all to the notion of blackness and as of now is of UNKNOWN (color) etymology.

Google has charts on Noah's Geneology

Not as far as Scripture is concerned, nor any other source I've read.

Did Noah have more children after the flood

1 Chronicles 16:42, 1 Chronicles 15:19, 1 Kings 7:14, Exodus 31:2-5, There's a few

Hello Richard. I'm unsure whether you're thinking of the time when the plans & the building of the Tabernacle & all its furniture & accoutrements were put forward, or to some other instance. If you can let us know of a particular instance that you're thinking of.

Otherwise, of the Tabernacle, we can read in Exodus chapters 25 to 40, all that was required for its construction. And particularly chapters 31 onwards are interspersed with the work done by the various folk. So, it will take a good bit of reading & identifying on your part.

Where can I find the craftmandhip/talents of the different tribes

You are welcome GiGi.

God bless.

Thank you for taking the time to read my posts. They are wordy, but I hope they are helpful to others as I write my "musings" through Genesis, perhaps bringing something fresh to the discussion. God bless you.

Hi GiGi.

Thanks for your comments! I have read them all and enjoyed them.



continue with us and God bless you.

This chapter is referred to as the Table of Nations, as it shows the genealogy of Noah through his three sons, by whom all of the nations were "seeded". They were not yet scattered al over the earth if this chapter is chronologically before Chapter 11. But Chapter 11 will precipitate the dispersal of these peoples farther apart outside of the Mesopotamia area.

This genealogy also shows the lineage of Shem - Peleg at which time the nations were scattered at Babel, or, another theory is this is the time that the one major continent broke apart and began to separate into two hemispheres. Both could have happened at this time. Whether the drift of the continents was slow or rapid, perhaps the answer lies with geologists. I happen to think that it was slow and that facilitated to habitation of all of all areas of the earth. I don't think it was fast and abrupt. The major geological and climatic events of a rapid division would have been noteworthy and I believe it would have been recorded in the Bible.

In the Jewish year 3303 Josiah hid the ark (God hid his face), it would be needed no more. 2Kings 23:3. The new covenant put the law written in stone in the hart of flesh. This was done on Pentecost in the Jewish year 3793. This is the same year of the cross of Jesus. 7 weeks after Josiah restored the covenant of the fathers Ezekiel prophesied of the new Jerusalem. This gave hope to captive Israel and signaled that God had rested his fury, and they only had to endure until the end of the 70 years of captivity. Eze. 21:17 After 62 weeks in the Jewish year 3787 John the Baptist came announcing that the Messiah was walking among them. The total length of the prophesy was 490 years. 3303 - 3793 = 490 years. Jesus continued to confirm the covenant after the cross. The end of the confirmation would have been Cornelius as the Gentiles as promised. The law to the Jews first and then to the Gentiles.

The restoring of the covenant in 3303 was the " restore" that Daniel knew about and was a part of. Everything done after 3303 was unto the Messiah.

What are the laws of The Lord?

is this when all nations turn against Israel

The 144,000 were of the tribes of Israel ( Rev 7:4). The number of people to be saved is innumerable ( Rev 7:9).

In Revelations it talks about the 144000.Is that the total amounts of christians that will be excepted into heaven?