Genesis Chapter 2 Discussion Page 4

Hi, Joe,

Also, see James 4:14

Also look at

Job 8:9

Job 14:2

Ps. 39:5, 11

Ps. 102:11

Hello Joe,

Psalm 144:3-4 comes to mind for me.

"Lord, what is man, that You take knowledge pf him? Or the son of man, that You are mindful of him?

Man is a breath; His days are like a passing shadow."

I seem to recall a passage that says, and I paraphrase, that a man's lifetime is no more than the blinking of God's eye.

Can you identify such a passage?

Thank you,

Joe

You're welcome Monte.

I hold the view Adam and Eve was created in Genesis 1:26-28.

But there may be more to the word till as Brother Ronald said.

He may have something there, , I haven't studied in that area but when time permits I will. I don't think it will change the order of mans creation but it may have great spiritual application.

God bless.

Thank you for the explanation. I was curious as it was said that no man was there to till the earth, but Adam and Eve had been created.

The simple answer is that the daughters weren't mentioned. Clearly; before the law the only means of reproduction were from siblings hence "incest" wasn't considered a sin. It wasn't long; however before the Genesis 6 corruption of man; when angels seduced women and produced the "men of renown" aka the giants who God systematically destroyed primarily at the flood and later with the destruction of the surrounding wicked nations of Israel to be conquered.

Hello Glenn,

What verse do you believe indicates that "races" were created in Gen 1 or 2?

My current belief is that other races were created at the Tower of Babel. Link

Because race (1) goes along with language (2), and geographic placement (3), and because these elements are so intertwined in culture, and because the Bible already said God did 2 of those 3, I believe the other occurred at this time, but wasn't stated. Gen 11:9. This is a pretty huge miracle only shared in a few verses, so I don't think its a stretch to believe that God changed their skin color too along with their language and geographic placement, for example, Indians in India who speak an Indian dialect, or Chinese in China who speak Chinese, Spanish in Spain who speak Spanish, etc.

Does anyone think this theory is implausible for a particular reason?

Monte.

I meant to say, "If you noticed Adam wasn't the( only ) thing in focus, in Genesis ch 2...There is a emphasis on everything else that comes from the ground. And how it was watered!"

That is what happens when you proof read your post hours after you have sent it.

Chapter 1 ,.. God made all the races , an when he looked, it was good, that the 6th day creation,.. they were hunters, fishermen,.. etc,.. then in chapter 2 , he made the farmer , eth ha Adam , the man to till the ground, the woman that by umbilical cord to umbilical cord would come the Christ ,..

Hey Monte,

God's name is written Elohim translated God, meaning strength, power, and God as the creator. Sometimes Elohim refers to plural gods, as in "You shall have no other gods before me" Deut. 5:7. At other times the referent is singular, God, as in "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth" Genesis 1:1.

In Genesis 2:4-3:24 Gods' name is YHVH Elohim translated LORD God, YHWH is the true God's personal name meaning God who brings into existence, God who originates, God as the originator and shows his intimate and personal relationship with mankind. The personal God who rules over Israel, and at the same time the one and only God who rules over all.

Many to most accept Adam and Eve are the male and female on day six. The most obvious differences and mostly discussed are the order of creation and the manner through which man and woman come into existence. Then the question where Cain got his wife. The account on the sixth day, God created man, male and female in his image he created them. In chapter 2 God formed man, placed the man in the Garden of Eden, then He created animals and birds, then woman and it is interpreted as being in day 6.

If you are studying this, regardless of your understanding, all people on earth today are descendants of Adam and Eve due to the flood. There are two words you may look at that are in the six days the word earth and chapter two the word field. Plants of the earth day 3 plants of the field chapter 2. Birds, fowls from the water on day five, out of the ground fowls' chapter 2, Beast of the earth day 6, beasts of the field chapter 2.

There is more but may this help.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Monte.

Viewing your question it appears you're not asking about the creation of Adam but why the writer uses Elohim in Ch 1 and yehvh Elohim in Ch 2 vs 7. That's a good question, It appears as though there are two separate creation stories. Genesis 1 follows the seven days of creation in a chronological, organized manner. But in Genesis 2, the narrative seems to take a step back and focuses on the day God created man.

I believe the emphasis on the name change in Genesis 1:26. Elohim is used because the focus is on the Godhead in creation so he uses words like "us and our"

And God said, Let "US" make man in "OUR" image, after "OUR LIKENESS": and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

We do know there is one God as the Bible confirms throughout scripture. However I believe these name changes are significant.

Touching on the creation of Man

In Genesis 2:1-9. I believe he gives a

re-account of Genesis 1 with the emphasis on what he formed man out of "the ground" And most Important the breath of life when he breath into his nostrils. Therefore he uses Yehvh Elohim.

If you noticed Adam wasn't the thing was in focus, There is a emphasis on everything else that comes from the ground. And how it was watered!

Adam/Man was put in the Garden from where he was formed to keep it. And it yielded it its fruit.

When Adam sinned he was cast out of the Garden and God spoke this

Genesis 3:17-19.

It's interesting how God uses the rain, the land when speaking of blessings and cursing. ( Famine)

We see this creation of Adam as being the one created in Ch 1 and Ch 2 as one account in 1 Corinthians 15:45. THERE'S OUR FIRST ADAM/MAN. ( Genesis 1.)

Then we go to Romans 5:12. we see that same Adam sin as mentioned in Genesis ch 2 and ch 3.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Jesus was the word of God are you trying to imply Lord God is Jesus, everything was created by him, how was everything created. God spoke, John wrote, and the word became flesh, God created everything with His word when he spoke, 1 John 5:7

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

Maybe once God created the heavens and Erath he also became the Lord over all he created that is what it appears to be, before he created anything there was nothing to be Lord over, some believe that when he created man male and female in ch 1 he created the human race and ch 1 he created Adam because Adams children took wives after leaving the garden, where did those wives come from unless there were others on the earth. We also see further in Genesis that the sons of God told wives of the children of men. So was there a human race out side of the Garden we know there was the rest of the world outside of it did that include beast and men we see pretty quickly after Adam came out other nations and peoples.. I always quote this verse, now we see thru a glass darkly and in part.............so we know we aren't given the full accounts in God's word Jesus told Paul in the vision some words are unlawful to speak, and John in the Revelation could not open the book but ate it and it was sweet to the tongue but bitter to the stomach.

King James Version (KJV) and when that which will comes appears i will know even as I am known so I guess after Jesus comes, we'll find everything out

Perhaps vast amounts of time passed between the two events.

How long did Adam and Eve dwell in the garden?

It could have been ages before the "fall"

It's interesting that you're noticing the differences, I'm guessing you've read Genesis before & studying or reading again or just very observant.

John 1:1-5, Revelation 4:10-11, Colossians 1:12-23, Ephesians 3:9, Revelation 10:1-7,

Note: Isaiah 42:1-12, Isaiah 42:23, compare: the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke & John,

There is a difference I believe because it seems to point out that man Adam being put into the Garden, symbolic of the Church. To tend it, where GOD seems to already have given the Genesis 1:27-28 'created female & males, direction to multiply & subdue take dominion over the earth & creatures land & sea. Genesis 2:7-8, Genesis 5:1-3, interestingly it is the lineage of Seth the Jesus comes through : Luke 3:23-38

1Corinthians 15:45, 1Corinthians 15:42-47, Genesis 2:15, Genesis 2:18-24,

In Chapter 1 God says for them to replenish the earth. In the dictionary "replenish" is in the bible as to be fruitful to multiply. Then after the flood the LORD God says again to "replenish". This time it makes sense. Were there already men on the earth? Bcuz they took wives that were from men. Were they Gods, and did they contribute to the Giants?

Who is God in Chapter 1? Because in Chapter 2 the LORD God, replicates chapter 1, but does it different. By using the dust of the ground, he created man and beast. While in Chapter 1, God created man in their likeness. So... What is the difference between God and the LORD God??

2+2=4 they were spiritually still connected to God, was it even Adam saying it or just a commentary or statement by the Holy Ghost who wrote God's word.

1 Corinthians 13:12

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."

Some day we will know everything but now we only know part of the full account. If you knew, how will it change anything as to being saved or add anything to salvation? Faith is believing God

The 6th day creation,.. there were many people here , long before Adam & Eve ,..

Ecclesiastes 4:13,

Norman.

I meant to say a second set of humans "Wouldn't be under Adams curse ".

Norman.

Cain had a wife before he went to dwell in Nod!

Genesis 4:16-17. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

AND CAIN KNEW HIS WIFE; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

We have no idea how old he was when he slew Abel.

And Adam and Eve could have had hundreds of kids by the time Cain slew Abel. God said be fruitful and multiply, he certainly would have gave them the ability to do it!

If God had a second set of created beings why would remove a rib out of Adam to make woman?

Lets follow the logic being presented and entertain the notion of a second set of beings created.

1) Genesis 2:18. And the LORD God said, IT IS NOT GOOD THAT THE MAN SHOULD BE ALONE; I will make him an help meet for him.

( Now this suggests God's done with creating any other Men.)

God completed his work and rested from all he created here in Genesis 2:2.

and incase we missed it God repeats

himself in the next verse.

Genesis 2:3. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God "CREATED AND MADE."

What he do forget to make a second set of men and went back to work on the 8th day?

THE HELP MEET.

Genesis 2:21-22. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Now if God is going to go back to work on the 8th day what's the point in removing a rib from Adam to make Eve?

Now if there was a second set of humans they would have never died because they would be cursed by Adams sin. W

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: Romans 5:12.

God bless.

Genesis 1:26, "let them" & please note "dominion over fish of the Sea" so why would he put 1 man 1 woman into a garden HE made after HE told them to take dominion? If you read with Wisdom from GOD as given by asking GOD: James 1:5, You will find GOD is the same yesterday today & forever, Hebrews 13:8, Numbers 23:19, Titus 1:2, GOD does not lie nor tempt people to sin: James 1:13, 1Samuel 15:29, never said that was ok, it's contrary: Leviticus 20:17, Therefore understanding GOD's nature read again. Genesis 1:26-29, Genesis 2:7-8, Notice there is distinction between formed here. The Garden may be representative of the Church notice also the command given to the 'man Gen 1:27-28, yet this man was left alone, Gen 2:15-23, Explain Gen 4:14-25, without other people. Please also ask yourself honestly: would parents actually give a daughter to a murderer? It really takes more fake faith to believe the lies of perversion! Those lies have no scripture support!

2Thessalonians 2:10-12, Colossians 2:8, Even to the ' religious authority ' Jesus had to rebuke: John 8:44,

Keep reading The WORD, keep seeking truth GOD loves those that seek HIM Deuteronomy 4:29, 3John 1:3, John 17:17, Zechariah 8:16,

Hopefully these are helpful in your searching for truth

Hi Norman.

This is a reprint with corrections.

To answer your question plainly.

God permitted Brother raise up family by their sister or close kin.

Adam and Eve was the only two God created to multiply the Earth. and he did somewhat manner with Noah.

That shouldn't be a problem being he spoke up Adam from the dust of the Ground.

In Genesis 2:7. He's going over what he has already done in Genesis 1:27.

There is only one creation

God bless.

Hi Norman.

To answer your question plainly.

God permitted Brother raise up family by their sister or close kin.

Adam and Eve was the only two God created to multiply the Earth. and he did somewhat manner with Noah.

That shouldn't be a problem being he spoke up Noah from the dust of the Ground.

God bless.

1 Corinthians 13:12

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."

King James Version (KJV)

If you read you see twice God created man, Genesis 1:27

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

Genesis 2:7

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Is this the answer some think it's not But Gnesis 2:7 is after God finish all his work and rested the 7th day Genesis 2:4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, It says generations plural. but then we see verse

5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. but we only know in part? 2Corinth3:12 And then we see this, Genesis 6:4

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

Hebrews 11:1

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

King James Version (KJV)

In the old testament Adam and Eve had children. Where did their wives come from. They were the first people created

The Book of Genesis does that. Sometimes it seems Moses wrote something and got interrupted; came back later to write more. So it sorta stops snd gets picked up again in the next chapter; and then he may add to that thought.

It gets much easier to read when you know that. Using a KJV, Study Reference Bible; with CENTER OF EACH PAGE REFERENCE COLUMNS

will have a-b-c notes to show you where the thought gets picked up again.

This what the Commentary on this website has written. Mishael

Wesley's Notes for Genesis 2:24

The sabbath and marriage were two ordinances instituted in innocency, the former for the preservation of the church, the latter for the preservation of mankind. It appears by Matthew 19:4,5, that it was God himself who said here, a man must leave all his relations to cleave to his wife; but whether he spake it by Moses or by Adam who spake, Genesis 2:23 is uncertain: It should seem they are the words of Adam__ in God's name, laying down this law to all his posterity. The virtue of a divine ordinance, and the bonds of it, are stronger even than those of nature.

See how necessary it is that children should take their parents consent with them in their marriage; and how unjust they are to their parents, as well as undutiful, if they marry without it; for they rob them of their right to them, and interest in them, and alienate it to another fraudulently and unnaturally.

Joan,

Eleazier was Abrahams most trusted servant. Eleazier was sent to Haran to get. Wife for Isaac who happened to be Rebekah.

The story is in Genesis 24