Genesis Chapter 3 Discussion Page 18

Cheryl Dawn; We can try to analyze what happened, and find some reason for the breakdown and sin; (something I do agree is extremely needful for us when we are examining our own ways, and that of the world around us); but I think the facts are simply, that the devil beguiled her, and she did eat, and gave also to her husband. It was the devil's fault, the devil's slanders and lies and perversion!

Maybe Adam told Eve not even to touch the fruit. God told Adam not to eat it. God didn't mention not touching it when commanding Adam. So did Adam add to God's words in telling Eve what to do concerning the trees fruit they were not to eat, I wonder. Or did God tell Eve and it is not mentioned. If God didn't, why would Eve have had any punishment for obeying Adam. Maybe for being one with Adam.

Word, I don't recall writing anything that had the two Enoch's confused. Your insistence for people to "read His word slowly" to gain understanding is quite strange. God gives understanding, reading fast or slow has nothing to do with understanding. He calls the elect to be diligent, I do not see any instruction in His word "read slowly.' Did you read the verses I quoted in context?

Lu2677 don't get confused in the names that's what Satan wants. Enoch the builded of city isn't the Enoch that belongs to Jared of Adams. It's easy to get confused so you have to read very slow and take it all in so you'll understand but you'll get it.

Lostribeman, Gen.4 Adam knew his wife and she conceived, had a son named Cain.If Cain is NOT mentioned in the Lineage of Adam as you claim, how do you explain? Gen.4:17 "Cain's wife bare (gave birth to) Enoch" v.18, etc. gives family names born to Enoch,and so on.
"Adam knew his wife" The word "knew" in holy writ many times refers to sexual intercourse.
Gen.4:25, 1Samuel 1:19, Gen.4:17,etc.

Its interesting to note that Cain is not included in Adams Lineage. Its also Interesting that Jesus Christ was several times called the Son of Man with his lineage traced back to Adam. What was the importance of this statement "Son of Man" Its also interesting to note that the Serpent "Satan" also known as the BEAST and so called, will have those who carry his MARK (DNA is described as MARKERS)

Word,I posted a reply to your comment on chapter 2; page. Also, Adam "knew" (had intercourse with) Eve and she gave birth to Cain their first child after God removed them from the garden in Chapter 4. Because of these events of Eve's deception (the fall of man) all are born under sin.The concept of "Satan had Cain" is not in scripture. Where may I ask do you get your ideas? Books/pastor/friends?

Word; I think you're trying to spirtualize too much into the things you read. Wait on the LORD for the knowledge and understanding; which He liberally gives to all who seek Him for it; "precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little." I understand and respect your zeal for knowledge, but until you're able to bear it, you have to wait!

Vs 15 seed is child. I will put controversy between your seed/child Satan and the woman's seed/child. Satan beguiled, wholly seduced Eve and he was that old serpent the devil which is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.2 trees that were not fruit trees in the garden. There was the creator of all things which was the tree of Life and Satan which was the other. Adam-Eve had Able. Satan-Cain.

CORRECTION; Gen.3:20 "mother of all living". I said "mother of all the earth". Sorry!

Word, I understand what God says about creation in chapter 1. I don't understand what you are saying about it. On this page you say "Satan was the tree of good and evil" So you are saying the fruit that Eve ate, the fruit of the tree that God warned her not to EAT, was plucked from Satan's body??? Christ is from the blood line of Adam and Eve because she is "the mother of all the earth"

Lu2677 keep track of the subject,object and listen to what's being said in chapter one you will realize that God covered the earth with children and verse 26 makes it clear. God tells us to look around and observe and I just have to look at the Chinese and the Japanese and see that the 6th day man walked outside the garden.Those in the garden is where the blood line of Christ would come.

To all that think God created people outside the garden.All things are possible with God,not denying it.If that was his plan why would he tell people to go forth and multiply?Why did he make provisions for husband and wife to procreate?People were living for several hundred years then, opportunity to have many children.Does he say he created others in the manner he formed Adam and Evein his word.

Outside of the garden were people the 6th day people. Cain found 1 outside. Parents I guess you call them Gentiles or heathens. The tree of good an evil was Satan.I think Ezekiel 31 talks about Satan as the tree but Satan was there as the tree and his name was serpent Rev.12 gives some of his names. If you read the Bible In prayer God will show you the answer to your questions. Christ tree of Life

This question, of where the wives came from, has been covered quite completely before. In the beginning, as also in the times just after the flood; marrying siblings and cousins was considered normal, as they were replenishing the earth with the human species. It was not considered a perverted or unclean thing like it is today.

Irene: If you read the Chapter above,it will explain why The Snake was cursed. In a group of little Children,they reason together that a snake was smarter then other animals. It could talk and had legs. The snake went from above all animals to below.

Gen. 3:21- People who believe their pets go to heaven; Gen. 2:7, "and man became a living soul." Man, not animals. Animals have no soul to go to heaven OR - God would be a murderer, when He made coats of SKINS to clothe Adam 'n Eve. So would we ALL be murderers when we hit a dog, cat, deer, etc. with a vehicle. Or killed them for food. That's why we are murderers when we kill a person on purpose.

Agreed!the name of Jesus is the only name given among men whereby a man can be save.Jesus told his desciples repentance and remission of sins must be preached in his name beginning first at Jerusalem. No one can get salvation in any other name except Jesus name.

Christine - Cain and all the above married siblings as this was the only choice. There would be few to no genetic mutations at this point as the original was one generation prior, so the genetic problem is not there. Nothing is wrong with the tree, but rather accountability is the problem. Once you know right and wrong, you become guilty of doing wrong. They simply lived in innocence.

Christine - God bless you for your questions. He knew before you asked them - that you wanted to know these things. But the answers to THESE won't save you. Salvation is the most important 'question - Acts 2:37, " men and brethren, what shall we do?" then Peter answered them in the next verse .....; in the name of Jesus Christ, just as in Matt.28:19, ".....Baptizing them in the NAME of .....

Wherr did Cains wife come from? Who are her parents? And same questions for all the other wives who just appeared? What is wrong with the tree of knowlege of good and evil? Are we suppose to know the difference between good and evil? Why did God make the surpent? Is this a trick? I do not understand. Why do some men have two wives? How were these people able to live up to 600 years old?

There's a grave misunderstanding of truth so plainly written in KJV. God's word so simply put, still widely and wildly misinterpreted. The evidence -our suffering in this present day, just as yesterday, and all the days since our departure from paradise -our division from oneness with God. We were NOT banished, but sent forth. The tree of life is still here, its fruit still waiting for the hungry.

The "coats of skins" in verse 21 (among other things) represent God's wonderful grace! With a grateful heart you can experience God's grace every day and in every trial.

Irene:Snake in Hebrew:Nachash / Snake in Greek:Ophis. Translated as serpent. 8 times in the New Testament,26 times in the Old

Gloria - childbirth is part of life; it always has been. I don't understand why you question it.

I just got curious about the - serpent. Nowhere in the Bible is the word - snake. So, I th'ot - lots of reptiles crawl on their belly. Eve talked with the serpent so at that time he probably appeared to her as something she could handle in her mind - not 'scary'. satan was the 'Angel of Light' before being cast out - and still is, 2 Cor. 11:14. We do a lot of 'creating' in our minds about things.

" ... it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel". The first "it" is Jesus, on the cross, sin (satan) put Him there. When Jesus said, "It is finished" and DIED - then Jesus bruised satan's head. Jesus then had the power to enter hell and get the KEYS. He then could give those keys to Peter (spiritually) when Peter preached Acts 2:38, the 3 keys to salvation.

I know that Jesus, is our redemption, our savior, remission for our sins. On verse 16. Is that to do with child birth pain? If so why do we women still go through great sorrow during labor?
Am I misunderstanding?

Clyde: I don't believe Satan was a prisoner in heaven. I assume he could go wherever you wanted and do what he wanted, apparently he did! Isaiah 14:1-20 is talking about a king, he thought he was better than anybody, his name Lucifer. If Lucifer was the name of Satan why was it never used again? only one time is it used, the name of the king. Read the Scriptures slowly and look in concordance.

In verse 21 God made sure they had good coverage and not just bare coverage.