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Hi Karla. In the Hebrew, the language of the Old Testament, the word is defined as 'captain or chief'. So, when we see 'dukes' in Genesis 36:19,29,30 and so on, we can understand that these men were chiefs/leaders in their tribes. The KJV uses the word 'duke' since this word was most commonly used in 17th century AD England to represent leaders. And we know that in British royalty, the titles of duke & duchess are still used - a carry over from the old days.
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The original Hebrew reads "Hkthnth phsim" which is translated as "tunic of distinction" and further interpreted (by Jews) as "a coat of [many] colours". The Septuagint (Greek) text says "chitona poikilon" which means "tunic of many [colours]".
Interesting question. I clicked on the verse then scrolled down to the Strong's translation info and then viewed other translations on that page and it does appear some interpreted it as a long coat but others many colors. I believe there are some in this forum that speak Hebrew so it would be nice to get their opinion when they read the original Hebrew.
Genesis 37:23 Strong's 5646 (coat of) many breadths: I found a question about this, often translated as "many colors" on Quora. The inquiry was about how this word differs in many translations. Another rendering is of many stripes. I have heard that this might refer to comprising strips of different animals' pelts. Whichever the case, it was a special coat or garment and the brothers were jealous because it separated him from them. He was his favorite son and had been treated as special compared to his brothers. They dipped it in goat's blood to take back to the father as a plot to convince him that Joseph had been killed by an animal. The quora question wanted an explanation regarding the various renderings. I tried to find this discussion in commentaries but failed. Perhaps someone else on this forum could give a more thorough explanation for me to present to the person who posted the pertaining question.
David, thank you for suggesting that the coat was referring to Jacob declaring Joseph to be the heir. That must have made is brothers feel terrible. The heir was to be the firstborn, but Jacob decided otherwise. It doesn't say when Jacob gave Joseph the coat. As a growing teen, it may have been recent so that it would fit well enough for Joseph to wear at the time his brothers stripped him (probably, in a way, stripping him of his "heirness) and placed him in the cistern. It also does not say when Joseph told of his dreams. So, we do not really know how long the brothers had "stomach" Joseph strutting around in this coat, speaking of his dreams, but perhaps, not doing much work for the family. I don't think that Joseph was all that innocent here, but he grew into a great man of God in Egypt. God had chosen him. Perhaps, He had told Jacob that already. As Joseph served as a slave in Egypt, he was brought low in order to be raised up to a very high position in the Egyptian government. Like Jacob, he was away from his family for a very long time, time for God to mature them both in their respective situations.
Hi Gigi The coat of many colors was one of the jealousy triggers with Josephs brothers because it signified leadership and he was to be the heir. Joseph is a great example of a walk of patience and love and wisdom of God to the point of
literally making Egypt the wealthiest in the world at that time also of God changing situations in His life from lemons to lemonade because he believed.
Joseph must have not spent much time with these brothers. Maybe children were brought up with their mothers and since Jacob had 5 wives, they may not have interacted much with their youngest two brothers from Rachel. None of his older brothers had Rachel for a mother. The brothers schemed about a way to kill him. Rueben was sensible and more honorable than the others. He wanted to trick is brothers and rescue Joseph. He didn't want Joseph to be killed and suggested an alternative plan whereby he could later rescue Joseph. The brothers agreed with him and put him into a dry cistern. Rueben was not wit the brothers when Judah suggested to sell Joseph to the caravan that included Ishmaelites (from Abraham and Hagar) and Midianites (from Abraham and Keturah). They apparently associated together, at least for trade purposes). Judah may have wished to spare Joseph, or maybe he just wanted to be able to make a buck off of his brother.
In Egypt, Joseph was sold to Potiphar, an official of the Pharaoh. Rueben was very upset when he came to the cistern and found Joseph gone. He did not know what had happened to Joseph.
Then the brothers covered up their plot by taking his coat, killing a kid goat, and soaking the coat in the blood. Jacob was none the wiser in tis matter. When the sons came with the bloody coat he was convinced that Joseph had died from an animal attack even though Joseph's body was no where to be found. Jacob grieved long and hard for Joseph. The brothers tried to comfort their father, but he was not easily comforted.
This is when the story ends.
Joseph was a dreamer, given this gift from God. It is not revealed how aware Joseph was of God and how closely he followed Him. His character and relationship with God will be tested in the years to come.
Here again we have a parent showing favoritism to one child over another. This time it was Jacob favoring Joseph, his 11th son. Hadn't Jacob learned anything from growing up with his mother favoring him and his father favoring Esau? surely e knew what it was like to favored and not favored. But, Joseph was Rachel's child and she was favored by Jacob over his other wives.
Joseph was 17 in this chapter. So, for 17 years, his brother had witnessed how their father favored and pampered Joseph. He did not work in the fields with his brothers, even though he was old enough to do so. He was given finer clothing than them. Their father allowed Joseph to snitch on his brothers. Was Jacob aware of how damaging this favoring was to his other sons? I am the fourth of ten children in my family. Growing up we did have discussions and arguments about who was favored by my parents. They tried not to favor any of us, but they made comments that led to us thinking some were more of a "golden child" than others. But we never hated our siblings.
Joseph was given dreams from God. I don't think Joseph really knew quite how to handle these dreams and so wanted to tell others to find some answers, perhaps. Maybe he did want to lord it over his brothers a bit. He was not perfect.
Telling his brothers ended up being for the good because, in time, they all would be reminded of these dreams from many years past when in Egypt. I wonder if the multiple colors of the coat was significant. Any help on this?
Perhaps it was just that it was considered expensive, extravagant, or time consuming to dye so many different colors before spinning into threads to create the coat.
His brothers were jealous of Joseph and hated him. They commiserated together over this while working in the fields. They were old enough to have married and began families of their own by this time. Jacob sending Joseph out to see how the work was going was not welcome, since he often would bring back a bad report about them.
Verse 9 and 10 are the explanation for Revelation 12
Revelation Chapter 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
11 And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.
This was fulfilled when Joseph became a Governor in Egypt.
Peter- message to you all on Genesis 37 - 4 years ago
I feel so sorry for joseph for thee sold him and i really think that god could help him. but it wasn't right. this coronavirus needs to stop. i aslo like to thank for your comments and hopefully when this coronavirus is over i get to celebrate and party. any way verse 36(last one) his father said i will visit thee grave. thank you nhs. you will have to read the bible every day children ok please> and again thank u for the comments.
many events happened up to this point in time, but the Will-Of-GOD is being carried out and GOD is in control. Jehovah GOD assured ...Abraham's descendants being in Egypt 400 years and GOD is in control as Joseph is being used by GOD for the long stay in Egypt. In 2019 Jehovah is still in control, so through the BLOOD Of JESUS, being FAITHFUL to the end is where we stand. Rev.2:1-29 Rev.3:1-22.
Probable is not the answer. GOD deals in definite. Where does it say Rachel, is dead in Genesis 37? Rachel is alive according to Genesis 37:10. "...shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?"
Probably because Rachel was symbolized in his dream as the 'moon'. Jacob was asking Joseph what he thought the dream meant. His question had a tone of rebuke, but Jacob kept it in his heart. It actually meant that the son of Jacob and Rachel would some day rule over the other 11 sons of Jacob. Jacob's comment also interprets the sun-clothed woman in Rev. 12 as the nation of Israel.
19 And Rachel died, and was buried in the way to Ephrath, which is Bethlehem. In chap37 verses 9 and 10 Why did Jacob ask, should your Mother which was dead and your brothers bow down to you?
The Bible if fraught with lessons. The brothers jealousy, Josephs innocence, the way fate plays out, the guiltiness of evil acts. But God's will be done, as always in the Bible. Without their evil act, they all would have perished in the famine. Joseph went to the Ishmaelites, and prospered. His coat of many colors signifies that He is not only the God of Israel,but many nations. We divide
Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty pieces of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt. Jesus was betrayed for 20 pieces of silver also.
End of day 12 of Reading the Bible through in a year. I missed reading yesterday, but did a little catchup today. Among believers the story of Joseph is a cherished favorite. Joseph endured many trials as he depended upon God. God kept Joseph, stayed Joseph, and delivered Joseph. God demonstrates his love and grace through Joseph to the nation of Israel and to the world; similar to Jesus!
Funke; I don't see it as wrong in any way for the righteous to speak to the LORD about the wicked and what they're doing. Don't they make our lives a torment by their lawlessness, and aren't they the cause for so MANY weak Christians to fall into sin? Joseph wasn't a "tattle tale;" but he DISAPPROVED his older brothers' ungodly behavior; especially with regard to the Family Heritage of Faith!
Verse 2 '...Joseph brought unto his father their evil report.' This was the beginning of Joseph's woes in the hand of his brethren. Children of God should be weary of carrying evil report about others. Rather, speak well of them. Even where there is unholy behavior among them, counsel and pray for them. It amounts to hatred when we always carry bad report of others.
In this chap. purpose preserves the life of Joseph. Joseph's brothers hated him and wanted to kill because their father, Jacob, favoured him over them and Joseph told them his dreams in which he was Lord over them. They tried to kill him but could not because God had a purpose à nd a plan for his life. Pro. 19:21 'Many are the plans in a man's heart but it's the Lord's purpose that prevails'.
I wonder that so many are so hard hearted at the sufferings of the righteous, at the hands of wicked men! The world is full of these envious murderers without a conscience toward God or their own fellow-men; and yet most "so-called" Christians can only ask questions about Joseph's motives??? Ever since Cain and Abel, the children of the devil have persecuted the Saints, to hide their own sins.
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If it fetches 10,000 verses; try wording it another way or just look at only OT or NT verses.
Look around on this whole website to see what's in it. If you get lost, just back out and come back in. Curious is good.
The location of the commentary box is below the search box. Touch a scripture and it will highlight Yellow. Scroll down slowly; the Wesley Commentary will appear.
The original Hebrew reads "Hkthnth phsim" which is translated as "tunic of distinction" and further interpreted (by Jews) as "a coat of [many] colours". The Septuagint (Greek) text says "chitona poikilon" which means "tunic of many [colours]".
Interesting question. I clicked on the verse then scrolled down to the Strong's translation info and then viewed other translations on that page and it does appear some interpreted it as a long coat but others many colors. I believe there are some in this forum that speak Hebrew so it would be nice to get their opinion when they read the original Hebrew.
literally making Egypt the wealthiest in the world at that time also of God changing situations in His life from lemons to lemonade because he believed.
In Egypt, Joseph was sold to Potiphar, an official of the Pharaoh. Rueben was very upset when he came to the cistern and found Joseph gone. He did not know what had happened to Joseph.
Then the brothers covered up their plot by taking his coat, killing a kid goat, and soaking the coat in the blood. Jacob was none the wiser in tis matter. When the sons came with the bloody coat he was convinced that Joseph had died from an animal attack even though Joseph's body was no where to be found. Jacob grieved long and hard for Joseph. The brothers tried to comfort their father, but he was not easily comforted.
This is when the story ends.
Joseph was a dreamer, given this gift from God. It is not revealed how aware Joseph was of God and how closely he followed Him. His character and relationship with God will be tested in the years to come.
Joseph was 17 in this chapter. So, for 17 years, his brother had witnessed how their father favored and pampered Joseph. He did not work in the fields with his brothers, even though he was old enough to do so. He was given finer clothing than them. Their father allowed Joseph to snitch on his brothers. Was Jacob aware of how damaging this favoring was to his other sons? I am the fourth of ten children in my family. Growing up we did have discussions and arguments about who was favored by my parents. They tried not to favor any of us, but they made comments that led to us thinking some were more of a "golden child" than others. But we never hated our siblings.
Joseph was given dreams from God. I don't think Joseph really knew quite how to handle these dreams and so wanted to tell others to find some answers, perhaps. Maybe he did want to lord it over his brothers a bit. He was not perfect.
Telling his brothers ended up being for the good because, in time, they all would be reminded of these dreams from many years past when in Egypt. I wonder if the multiple colors of the coat was significant. Any help on this?
Perhaps it was just that it was considered expensive, extravagant, or time consuming to dye so many different colors before spinning into threads to create the coat.
His brothers were jealous of Joseph and hated him. They commiserated together over this while working in the fields. They were old enough to have married and began families of their own by this time. Jacob sending Joseph out to see how the work was going was not welcome, since he often would bring back a bad report about them.
Revelation Chapter 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
11 And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.
This was fulfilled when Joseph became a Governor in Egypt.
peter mcaleer