Genesis Chapter 9 Discussion Page 4

No. Human babies when they die, don't become become angels. Neither will we when we die.

Comments by Alex on the nation of Israel, There was no other nation like Israel they were Sola Scriptura, they knew the scripture by heart but Israel stoned almost every Prophet that God sent them and rejected the Christ But God loved Israel even tho they worshipped God with their lips but their hearts were far from him. There is no eternal life in written word the bible per se Thats y Jesus said search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but it is them that testify of me which is the living WORD Jesus said no man can come unto me unless the Father sends me draws him, Its gotta be the FATHER that initiates our faith the living word. Remember Jesus told Peter flesh and blood has not revealed it unto you but my father in heaven . Jesus said there was many lepers in Israel in the time of Elijah the Prophet BUT UNTO NONE OF THEM WAS ELIJAH SENT BUT UNTO NAAMAN THE SYRIAN. You can memorise the whole bible and still not understand the mysteries of the kingdom of God.These things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto Babes which is the living words the H.G . The Child of Promise That is gonna result from our hearing his Voice th LIVING WORD ( he wants to know us ) then the fruit will come which is the Child of Promise ,eternal life etc. Them that come to God must believe that he is a rewarder of them that do deligently seek him. If any man follow me let him sell everything he has and give it to the poor then come and follow me, If a man forsake not all that he has he cannot be my disciple, remember he said count the cost, its gonna cost ya everything ,Paul said he suffered the loss of all things and counted them but dung that he might wine Christ etc. ok GBU but just reading the bible does not impress God. True RIGHTEOUSNESS can only come via a birth of Christ in US. Pray that you might be the good ground where that good seed is sown that you might bring forth fruit unto God, She brought forth a man child that is gona rule all nations .

Kathy, even though man in his imaginations & depictions in paintings, show cherubim as chubby babies with wings flitting about the place, cherubim (Cherub, singular) in the Bible are certainly not that.

In the Bible, Cherubim are heavenly beings appointed by God as guards in Eden ( Genesis 3:24). They were depicted as carvings at either side of the Mercy Seat on the Ark in the Tabernacle ( Exodus 25:18-21). Their figures were woven into the veil in the Tabernacle ( Exodus 26:1). The Lord is seen symbolically riding on one ( Ezekiel 10:1-22).

Many have their interpretations of the function of Cherubim. I generally understand them as a type of angel (or, heavenly being) that are appointed as guards of God's Throne or His Holiness & symbols of His Mercy to all. This is largely taken from their position on the Mercy Seat. Then we have the other beings called Seraph/Seraphim that serve before God's Throne awaiting His Commands & are involved in purification as in Isaiah 6:1-7. What their actual functions are now, especially in light of the resurrected & ascended Lord Jesus at God's right Hand, isn't revealed.

This may help:

Ex 25:19And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

Ex 37:8One cherub on the end on this side, and another cherub on the other end on that side: out of the mercy seat made he the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

2 Sam 22:11And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind.

1 King 6:24And five cubits was the one wing of the cherub, and five cubits the other wing of the cherub: from the uttermost part of the one wing unto the uttermost part of the other were ten cubits.

1 King 6:25And the other cherub was ten cubits: both the cherubims were of one measure and one size.

1 King 6:26The height of the one cherub was ten cubits, and so was it of the other cherub.

1 King 6:27And he set the cherubims within the inner house: and they stretched forth the wings of the cherubims, so that the wing of the one touched the one wall, and the wing of the other cherub touched the other wall; and their wings touched one another in the midst of the house.

2 Chr 3:11And the wings of the cherubims were twenty cubits long: one wing of the one cherub was five cubits, reaching to the wall of the house: and the other wing was likewise five cubits, reaching to the wing of the other cherub.

2 Chr 3:12And one wing of the other cherub was five cubits, reaching to the wall of the house: and the other wing was five cubits also, joining to the wing of the other cherub.

Ezra 2:59And these were they which went up from Telmelah, Telharsa, Cherub, Addan, and Immer: but they could not shew their father's house, and their seed, whether they were of Israel:

Neh 7:61And these were they which went up also from Telmelah, Telharesha, Cherub, Addon, and Immer: but they could not shew their father's house, nor their seed, whether they were of Israel.

Ps 18:10And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.

Ezek

I just watched a documentary on angels. I heard something I had never heard before and I would like to know if it were true, and where in the Bible it can be found. Are the Cherub angels in heaven the babies we lose down here?

"OUR" father

Yes Norman, your statement sounds 'OK' to me. I concur with every word you've written & as I look at not only the Sun & the Earth, but also at Man, indeed anything with life, I can barely comprehend the complexities of cellular structure, of their organs & operations and the capability of everything within us functioning in harmony within the bounds set for us. To believe that all this can just happen without a Creator is quite simply mind boggling & says nothing good about such darkened minds that are otherwise exercised in accomplishing great things for man's good.

Romans 1:20-25 speaks well on this abnormality. Even though, he who is not inclined to believe in a supernatural creator & may not set up idols to worship, yet he is persuaded that he is his own god & answerable to none else, & that his goodness comes from within him or because of compulsion from a worldly authority. To him, the rejection of God, of His creative Powers, of His Love & interest in the affairs of His creation, is an absurdity & this only shows to us who believe & to the heavenly host, that the 'light' that man believes he has, is in fact the light that leads him to greater darkness. The path he chooses may seem right but the end of it ultimately brings him to spiritual ruin ( Proverbs 16:25).

Please tell me if this sounds ok to you all. All it takes for me to believe is go out side and look up at the Sun that has been burning at the perfect temp to support all life on the Earth every since the day it was created and never has ran out of fuel so how many things do you know that burn that never runs out of fuel and then look at the Earth and everything in it and it is so complex and there is no way it just happen or evolved. It was all created and created by our God and no one no matter what they say could change my mind! There is not one thing that could change my mind. Praise the Lord. I really do not see how anyone could not believe that this world was created by God. Amen

True the Sabboth is Saturday but Christians worship on the Lords day, which is Sunday. The day He rose from the dead.

I think Jesus clearly demonstrated that Sabbath is whenever your Church meets CORPORATELY.

He often taught and did healings and deliverances on Sabbath Day in Jewish culture. He made many of a Pharisee hopping mad about saying, "HE IS LORD OF THE SABBATH."

Save your emails, because I'm not going to ascribe to your interpretations.

The key point is, When You Meet Corporately. I understand the theology of: "But that's the way we've always done it."

Jesus has showed us something More (can I say this? ), User Friendly.

When we are in a corporate setting: the Word is Preached, people come to the front to receive Christ as Savior. People are healed, set free from sickness and demonic invasion. Communion is served.

That's the way it's supposed to work. I used to enjoy Sundays spent in Church. After, everyone brought their Sunday dinners and we all ate together. Kids played games, people sang duets on the lawn....

How very sweet spirited: just enjoying Jesus. It had this "mental and emotional" healing kind of atmosphere. People bared their souls: someone would pop up and say let's Pray :)

Now, people watch their wrist watches, praying the Preacher will conclude in time, so they will make their reservations at THE restaurant, on time, to "be seen at". Cold and clammy, like clams. We've lost that family feeling that Church should embody.

Jesus loves His Church? How does this affect Him. I wonder? I think He's coming back soon. People are falling away; apostatizing or just plain wandering off. That's written in the Bible.

Sit in your closet with Jesus (who is at the right hand of God, interceding for all Saints). And pray with Him for the survival of our Churches. He knows who is, and who is not, praying alongside Him. We're going to spend eternity with Him! Why don't we start now, to covet His Presence?

Mishael

I am glad you brought it up about that. I have knew that for so long time and have asked people about it. No one seem to have any answer to it. I believe that many churches are doing this wrongfully in God's Eyes and has for so long time set it to control us all, all over the world. There are way too many secrets that churches from around the world are holding against God's Will. Why on Sunday? And why are we celebrating Christmas on the day Jesus born? Well, all that and secrets were from Pagans. To keep the Truths from us, the Way of Life. SMH, May we all not be blinded in life by liars who changed everything against God.

I have a question; Why is the church observing Sunday as the Sabbath when clearly it is Saturday? I have yet to find an answer to this question from my peers yet they continue to Worship on Sunday. The Bible is so clear on this, yet the church refuses to obey and my Bible tells me to obey God above man, is this not true, either? How is it that we can keep some of the Commandments of God and the one that says "Remember the Sabbath" is the one we forget? I believe that God wants to ask us this question so I look forward to your responses.

May God keep you and bless you today.

J

Just using your phrase "trust in me", I put that in this Site's search box & came up with three verses: Isaiah 57:13, Jeremiah 39:18 & Jeremiah 49:11. Of course, there will be many other verses throughout the Bible that will indicate the same sentiment of one having a trust or faith in God or God's requirement for us to express faith in Him.

how many times does the lord use the phrase trust in me in the bible? thank you in advance

Ham saw his father, laughed, and told his other brothers. The two took a blanket and covered their fathers modesty without seeing anything.

God chose to punish the son who looked, laughed and gossiped. He hates gossip and Backbiting.

Why are you taking issue with God in the first place? Who made you judge?

It is with righteous judgment we are allowed. But Gods judgments are final, He cannot even look on sin. That's why we all need a Savior.

Be careful when you begin criticizing God the same way people on Twitter discuss, trash others characters and publish it to the world. Doesn't that sorta sound like what Ham did to his Dad?

The end of the Book of Revelation....backbiters will not go to heaven.

Criticism and ridicule are not fruits of The Holy Spirit.

If we look at this account with our 'present-day eyes', then yes, Noah sinned by getting drunk & should have been punished for being so, along with son Ham.

But was it a punishable 'sin' in those days & in that situation Noah was in? Today, we say that drunkenness is sin because of alcohol's effect on the mind likely resulting in sinful action. So we are warned to stay away from alcohol, or else maybe to take some for "our stomach's sake" ( 1 Timothy 5:3), and that too, just a little wine.

Enter Noah: he was a farmer growing a fruitful vineyard & after juicing his grapes, fermenting them for an extra kick, he wanted to sample some of his hard work. He drank a little more than he should have, started to feel a tad warm, shed off some clothing to cool off in his tent & son Ham happens to walk by & lingers at his door. We're not told whether Noah's inebriation led him to do anything wrong or even have sinful thoughts - just that he drank his wine to the point of being drunk & was uncovered. Without trying to make excuses for Noah, I don't see anything amiss from what we are given to read - he drank too much & fell asleep. But you might be seeing something more in this account.

The father drank the wine to and was intoxicated and was lying naked before the younger son went into the tent and saw him. If the son was at fault for him to be cursed, what should have been done to Noah?

I love this online king James bible whoever made this thank u so much because I don't have a bible I have to use my mom bibles when I am reading it but now I can use this and it is online.

Thank u so very much :)

HELL OR NO HELL



Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Psalms 65:2 O thou that hearest prayer, unto thee shall all flesh come.

Psalms 66:4 All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name. Selah.

Psalms 86:9 All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify thy name.

I Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the saviour of ALL men, specially of those who believe.

Peace to you in the name of Our Lord. Seek Ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these other things shall be added unto you . You try to add understanding in your own strength. We are told to lean not on our own understanding. when you follow Our Lord with all of your heart, strength and mind we are given His wisdom to see. The answer to your question is, We all fall short of the Glory of God. There is not one good. Only God. Oir Lord is correct and true when He tells us judge not least Ye be judged. We are all sinners.

To Whom It May Concern:

Greetings to you all. I am conflicted. If the King James Bible should be the only Bible to use, why is that so if King James was a Freemason and God highly frowns upon the Masons because they ultimately worship Lucifer? Please advise.

ROMANS 11:29 COMMENTARY

Wesley's Notes for Romans 11:29

11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are without repentance - God does not repent of his gifts to the Jews, or his calling of the gentiles.

People's Bible Notes for Romans 11:29

Ro 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance. God does not change his purposes or fail to keep his covenant. What he has promised concerning Israel will be fulfilled.

Discussion for Romans 11:2 6yrs agoApostle NJ Mkhize on Romans 11:29 the gifts and calling of God are without repentance God does not change his purposes when God appoints you to operate in a specific purpose no man or predicament that can overwrite the plan of God Ours is to dwell in the light as his in the light and be partaker of is grace .

Comment by Mishael: Jonah tried to run away from Gods call on his life. But in the end, he turned back and a whole city repented. Welcome back, Brother.

NO. They saw thier father naked.

Cheryl,

I believe that you are correct.

( Lev 18:8)

"The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness."

The act of seeing the nakedness of your father is to have intercourse your father's wife.

"Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt" ( Deuteronomy 27:20), also look at ( Deuteronomy 22:30).

That is why Ham is the father of Canaan ( Genesis 9:22), and why Noah said "cursed be Canaan" Genesis 9:25. (although I personally believe Noah should have condemned Ham for his actions and not Canaan, the innocent result, but Noah isn't perfect).

Keep reading and you'll be answered!

Chapter 22 & 23 He saw his father nakedness do they mean he saw his father wife ?

In Old Testament days there was no real cooling for meat. The danger was food poisoning; mold etc.

I saw an entire 4 story office get ptomaine (sp) food poisoning because they left the chili sitting out all night. I had a sink in my dark room.... it was brutal. My boss used it.

Not me. I skipped lunch that day.

Always ask Jesus to bless and sanctify the food clean, to be consumed.

In the rooms past history pages(1-100) at the bottom, there's a google story about the sanctions President Trump put on Chinese exported meats and foods; is because they test positive for swine flu. Everybody get a flu shot this year. Pray over that bacon!

I've also thought of this before and was lead to these other things in the Bible:

Romans 14:1-6

1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Also verse 14:

14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

Mark 7:18-20

18 And he(Jesus) saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

Along with the post, verse, you wrote which was God speaking to Noah. It is just my belief that the whole thing about "unclean" animals was just something made up by the pharisees. Of coarse I cannot proove this but I don't think any food or meat is really unclean. As we have these other verses backing this up. Today it seems we have all this GMO stuff which I don't like. I try to stay away from it but I don't feel guilty if I eat something with it. Hope this helps. God Bless.

Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. ? Wait. I thought we could only eat the clean animals?

My cousin had 6 toes. And yes we have giants today as big as some of those in the bible. Some over 7 feet tall.

Look it up tallest humans ever recorded in google.