Genesis Chapter 9 Discussion Page 9

Once again interesting reading about Noah and his sons oo

Are you kidding me? Are not the so called Jews of the Tribe of Ashkenaz which is of Japheth? Or am I reading the Scriptures wrong? The 12 tribes - Judah being one - is of Shem. Two different lineages.

God curse cain and put a mark on him that no one would kill him , but it doesnt state what that mark was so why is it that Noah curse his son Ham the father of Cannan and we assume it was changing the race color.

Porque canaan tubo que ser maldecido por noe; Por ver la desnudez de su papa?

God is there to assist you in the negative world..

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Kerry The curse was for us to know what happened to Noah. Moses wrote this book Genesis This book started in Chapter five...With the first 4 chapters being carried forward...To see someones nekkidness you see there. Truth You see their wisdom....For today a lot of Christians have none you can tell by their speech...Think about it..You honestly think it was a naked man....The blessing was to Noah..Then to Abraham And so on they passed the book to Moses..How else did Moses have the information..Or the information was passed down by God Through Noah To Abraham are abram xcetera...Either way it goes the book was passed down.. The two other brothers wife and covered The book... If anybody else has a better explanation tell me.. No they were not a different color They're the examples Of how a generation after their mother and father That disobey Or even have truth they don't care about the truth Can be come and be like in the future... Take the genealogy of Cain...The last two brothers and sister only sister mentioned until the tribes of Israel..She is the harlot The two brothers pay attention what they do and read revelations...They are the ones that make up Chapter 18 Through verse 22...Make no mistake read it yourself ...

What was the curse that was given to Ham and how did it affect Canaan. Where they turned a different color.

I am weeping because the clouds continue to weep but as I look out and see a rainbow and remember God's promise, I weep out of joy. Praise Him.

Anil M. Jesus himself observed the passover feast, which had lamb as a main course. God also required the death of animals to atone for human sin. True, this wasn't a part of the perfect earth God created, but when sin entered the world, things changed. Don't make the mistake of getting caught up in the politics of animal cruelty. People, not animals, were made in God's image. Yes, we shouldn't be cruel to animals, but you can't ignore that the scriptures make it clear that we rule over them, and one of their main purposes is for food.

Anil M. Jesus himself observed the passover feast, which had lamb as a main course. God also required the death of animals to atone for human sin. True, this wasn't a part of the perfect earth God created, but when sin entered the world, things changed. Don't make the mistake of getting caught up in the politics of animal cruelty. People, not animals, were made in God's image. Yes, we shouldn't be cruel to animals, but you can't ignore that the scriptures make it clear that we rule over them, and one of their main purposes is for food.

Tamara, husbandman means farmer not husband, that is why we see Noah tilling the soil and planting g****s that he made wine and got drunk. As for the p***age, we see GOD giving humans another chance to inhabit the earth and replenish it, it just goes to show us his love and mercy towards man. But man has always had sinful tendencies.

One of my favorite p***age in the Bible.

Anil m's Who are you to question God?? The problem with people is they put thier own understanding to the Bible. Thats wrong! it says what it says and also warns about changing 1 thing. God said that man would eat meat, thats it finished God Spoke.

i dont believe a compassionate jesus would allow meat eating!This has probably been modified later by writers to justify meat eating as per their choice!

Noah was in a compromising condition. His son looked upon him, and possibly even passing judgement and did not do the right thing to cover his father and make things well for him. He also talked about his father to his brothers. This is not love or respect as we should treat our parents or others especially those we say we love.

Why does it say he began to be a husband, wasn’t he already doing husband duties before the flood.

Do you know the token of covenant between God and the earth? It is the rainbow which might be the first death. The second and final death will be fire.

I Believe that God, when talking about the hands of the beast and the hand of the man He's talking about the seed of beast of the serpent, like Cain was and the generation that followed him. Those that God called into the ark with Noah; two of the unclean the male and his female, and seven of the beast that were called clean the male and female of the seed of Cain.

Various sins take on future generations as a curse. JESUS only has the power to break an undesired curse! JESUS came to set us free!

Genesis 9:24, Noah awoke and knew what his younger son has done to him. Who was the younger son and just what did he do to Noah?

It is an interesting story, Ham was supposed to cover his father but unfortunately he did not think of that, people must learn that alcohol it is not good for human being because it causes disasters and more problems in the home, let us learn from Jesus, our shelter in the time of storm.

For me, alcohol has always been involved in my problems in society. ALCOHOL has always been an issue with distorting man’s thinking…, alcohol is the mother of lies, and will deceive you easily. BEWARE, it makes you see strange things. It makes you stupid. FILL up with JESUS!

When I was a seminary student I was assigned by my Hebrew professor to carry an in-depth case study on this particular passage of scriptures. Of course I did my very best and the answer is not easy. It all depends on which kind of approach one takes. Well after done my very lengthy study I came to conclusion that Ham had a sexual relationship at least, with his father's wife. It will depend how one interprets the Hebrew word "and Ham saw" which is the same word in "Adam knew Eve".

Uncovering your fathers nakedness, Leviticus 20:11, And the man that lieth with his father's wife (incest) hath uncovered his father’s nakedness. The result was Canaan, and that’s why Noah cursed him ( Genesis 9:22).

@Daniel, Yes we all have sinful nature. But as the book of Romans, chapters 3,4,5,6,7,8,11 and 12 say, GOd has delivered us from sin by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, so it is now our duty to walk in the freedom of the children of GOD, and not let ourselves subdued by sin. GOD bless you

Noah was selected by God, to bring life back to the earth that was just destroyed, from what I understand to be overwhelming negativity and tyranny born into all men.

Noah then proceeds to get himself drunk and fall asleep nude, before God, and his family. Is this to imply that all men are inherently flawed?

god is good, and i have been blessed tonight whilst reading through the scriptures.

Gen 9:22
HAM the FATHER of cannan saw his fathers nakedness and told his brothers outside.

It was clearly Ham who did something wrong here, otherwise wouldn't it have said what Cannan did so wrong to have his decedants cursed?

The problem was Noah's conduct while uncovered as the Bible 'uncovered' means more than just this. But Ham dishonoured his father by watching and then reporting this to his brothers. This gave an indication of that was to come from Ham's line. His brothers went in backwards and without looking they covered their father. By watching it is dishonouring and alomost gloating. As Jesus did not watch the woman accused of adultery in the NT, he instead bent down and gave his words, without looking wbut drew his fingers into the sand. It is one thing to know, but to watch with pleasure at someone's downfall, The curse from Noah is not the ranting of an angry man, but a prophecy and this came true as in the city of Jehrico leading into Caanan, a wicked and sinful city as archeologists now attest to .