Hebrews Chapter 10 Discussion Page 2

Hi Alec, Sometimes the hardest people to forgive is ourselves, we know all too well our weakness and short comings, I haven't lived a life on drugs but can attest to a lot of short comings that I'm ashamed of and deserve the punishment of hell, but for as great a sinner that I am, I have a greater Savior that suffered on the cross for me, and all I need to do is repent and believe. When you look at the apostles, they spent three years with Jesus witnessing His preaching's and miracles, and yet when Judas betrayed Jesus, they were scattered, and Peter denied him three times. Just because we say that we're Christian and believe doesn't mean that we're not going to ever sin again, but when we do sin, we need to pray for forgiveness. I also believe that in times of doubt or weakness, that the Holy Spirit is there to comfort us and also to convict us through our conscience to keep us on the narrow road to the Cross. When you say you have the feeling of fear coming over you, maybe it's the Holy Spirit, telling you to come back to the Cross, count this as a blessing, because it sound like you're on the narrow road, and He wants to keep you there.

May God bless you on your journey.

Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:"

Matthew 18:21 "Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?" Matthew 18:22 "Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven."

First of all, if you feel the Lord calling you back, why would you be afraid to return? As it say's, we will all be judged and I have the same story behind me. It would be more fearful to never feel that call and stay in the world of sin than to return as did the prodigal son. This passage has tormented me too many times but the rest of scripture assures me that God is always ready to accept repentance.

Hello

Can someone explain what is meant in vs 27 that fearful looking for judgement is? I can't seem to shake that feeling of not being forgiven or going to far. the writer was talking to Hebrews and is that the context we should take? If so how do I apply these lessons to my life. I have asked for forgiveness and know that i am forgiven but a feeling of fear comes over me at times and it is a scary one. Can someone who has backslidden and lived a life of a drug addict like myself come back and really find forgiveness I knew better so I am without excuse and deserve to be sent to hell, but I really feel the Lord calling me back, there are times I am bold like proverbs 28 says to be, but other times I am almost over come with a paralyzing fear.

How does one get a clear conscience, I have repented and turned away from my past way of living study Gods word daily and try whenever I get the chance to talk to others about Jesus I know i cannot earn or work my way to heaven, but i do volunteer work to help others and when I have to make decisions I make them based on what I have read in the bible I was a backsliden christian who fell far from the Lord probably farther than most "drugs/alcohol and all that goes with it,am i looking at it the wrong way? Is it like when a man goes to jail guilty as charged but someone else paid for it so the judge says i am free to go, now even though the judge let me go and am not charged, I am still guilty. Is that how I should look at my life that even though i am saved I have to carry this weight on my back until i get to heaven? I was looking at things like when I was first saved when the guilt of past sins came upon me I knew i was forgiven and the weight of the past didn't have any effect on me, not so this time.

JOHN 16

The Work of the Holy Spirit

"I did not say these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5But now I am going to him (Father) who sent me, and none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?' 6But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper (HOLY SPIRIT) will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8And when HE comes, HE will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment: 9concerning sin, because they do not believe in ME; 10concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no longer; 11concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world (Satan) is judged.

12"I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13When the Spirit of truth comes, HE will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he HEARS, he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

Other passages that will help you to get back in step with the Holy Spirit:

2 Titus

1 John 1, particularly the prayer in verse 9

Isaiah 1:16-19

If we stubbornly persist in satisfying fleshly over-indulgence, sex sins, copying worldly ways of living, etc. we KNOW when we are falling away.

The Holy Spirit comes to convict you; to do His Work again. That "knowing" that you sense in your spirit, is HIM. So listen and do respond to His urging.

Another thing we are to do: is to move from "baby Christian" to growing up in Christ. Not reading in the New Testament of the Bible, leaves us vulnerable. Decide who you are following: the world, or the Lord, Jesus? The Holy Spirit is your TEACHER. Ask him your questions. Listen

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When these apostates left, they would have not had any convictions about their actions - they were cast off to join the throng of Christ-rejecters, & more so, having also once been partakers of the Spirit's offerings (6:4-6, shows the same warning there also). For the believer, all sin is forgivable, except for blasphemy & here, in rejecting Christ after having received the Gospel of Truth, & their fate is certain. Therefore, Christ's death did deal with all manner of sins & God looks only on that Perfect Sacrifice that was able to accomplish it. What we do with that salvation subsequent to hearing & receiving it, it's up to us & remains before God. If we should slip up & sin, Christ's Blood continues to clean. If we choose to live in sin & say we are Christians, then we have to re-examine our lives & see what has gone wrong with our belief system & repent quickly & be born again by the Holy Spirit.

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Oftentimes, we Christians look at a Scripture & form a judgement. It's always a good practise to learn as much as you can about a Bible book in regards to the authorship, readership, reasons for writing, etc. Hebrews was written primarily to Jews who had converted to Christ or likely, appeared to do so. So, unlike Gentile converts, these Jews had a lot of the OT already in their minds & so the writer had to deal with much of that. We can't go into that here; as you read this epistle with that in mind, you will see some of these hurdles they had to overcome.

Hebrews 10:26,27, is one of those warnings given. It was directed to some who had or were planning to leave the faith (apostatize); in other words, they wanted to reject Christ & His salvation preferring to return to Judaism. Hence the 'sin' spoken of in v26, is the sin of Christ rejection by turning back to Judaism. So the writer goes on in v28,29, that if those who wilfully disobeyed the Law in times past were executed for their crime, how much more worthy will be the punishment for any who now consider the Sacrifice of Christ as a useless vain offering, showing hatred to God's gracious Work.

I have heard many sermons the Christ died for all our sins past, present and future doesn't that contradict what we read in this chapter of Hebrews? Does it say anywhere in the bible that a sin commuted knowingly and willingly can be forgiven? I read here in starting in verse 26 that you cannot not that only but the punishment that will go with it, so is the punishment damnation or loss or rewards. Can one truly be forgiven and be restored to the Lord or is there a line here on earth that once crossed all is lost. This is the last time I will ask a question about this subject at times it can bring me and others to despair i know others that say they can't find the holy spirit and yet prayers have been answered. There are many people who think they have lost their salvation, many.

How are we christians to distinugish the world's view of the word temporary which is like 6-9 months and God's view of it which could mean 6 months to about 20 years?

HI Clara, I do not know what you mean by regarding the Lords blood unclean, can you be more specific? have you received the Lord as your savior? if so you know we stumble, but God want let his children live in sin, he chastise those that are his, read Hebrews 12:7-13. That's what that verse would mean to you. Now if you're not a child of God and you die in you sins then that verse means judgment for them. but you can except Christ as you savior and turn from that sin grow in grace and he will remove that sin from your life.

Our minds have suffered corruption by our sin nature inherited from the fall of Adam. Our brains are capable of thinking any possible vile thought or imagination. We are also open to suggestion by Satan himself. This in itself is not cause for you to despair of an evil thought in passing.

The danger in the passage you referred to is regarding a person who refuses the salvation purchased by the precious blood of Jesus Christ and then presumes to obtain a salvation based on the old covenant of now meaningless sacrifices and works. Such a person can only look forward to judgement and fiery indignation.

You apparently are not of this persuasion being that you express your concern to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. We all need a renewal of our mind as Romans 12 calls us to:

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

This only comes by abiding in Jesus Christ, and "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;" ( 1 Corinthians 10:5)

I have a question

My problem is that I came across the Hebrews 10:26-31 and had thoughts that christ blood is unclean. So now I have thoughts that i regarded Christ's blood unclean and it will not be forgiven me. I am concerned what if I did that. I want Jesus in my life and don't want to be outside of God's grace. So i worry if I regarded such a thing. Do you have a advice, what do you think about it?

explain Hebrew 10;26

Basically the Holy Ghost will have to burn the demon in the baptism of fire in Judgement. The baptism of fire is where the Devil and his angels get cast into the lake of fire, they won't have the Holy Ghost. We believers will. If you willfully sin you will be worst off than when you did start. Meaning not as great in the Kingdom of God, less inheritance.

Matthew 3:10-13

10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire:

12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

The bad trees are also known as tares, demons. He didn't punish the demons yet because he seeks to salvage and harvest the good works of Faith. Upon baptism of water and initial confession of Lord Jesus, sin remisses. However wilful sin after that is not remissable and must wait and be burnt away upon harvesting of the wheat(good works of Faith). Baptism of water gives us good conscience to grow. Baptism of fire removes the sin as we enter the Kingdom of God upon harvest(Judgement Day)

Matthew 13

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together firs

I'm sorry but that is, unfortunately, a common misinterpretation of this verse. To see the Truth one simply has to ask two questions:

1) How many times did Jesus die on the cross?

2) For how many people did he die on the cross?

If Jesus forgave sins past, present, and future (without a person acknowledging and truly repenting from sins) then there would have been no need for Him to tell the people He healed to go and sin no more. His sacrifice was not a license to continue leading a sinful life, doing whatever we want. That is one reason He says to count the cost.

in times now (2020) we are now having to be connected on phone lines and in some form of communication. God ( JESUS) should never be taken from our hearts and our thoughts, so as it speaks of assembling of ourselves together this is a sure way of uncertainty if we are truly for God are churches are separated our members are scattered seeking their strength and falling weak to divers temptations the word of God Should Always be in our hearts, minds, and spirit. We as christians should be as a spreading fire spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ never to feel that we are alone. we are together with the LORD.

Do you mean why the KJV & some other versions use the word 'illuminated' instead of 'enlightened'? If so, both words mean the same in the original Greek 'photizo' = to enlighten, illumine, to bring light, to reveal.

In Hebrews 6:4, the word used there is 'enlightened' which is from the same root word 'photizo'. Why the difference, I can't tell.

But if you mean why a change was made in the KJV to read 'illuminated', then that question can only be answered to those who were involved in the translation.

In Hebrews Chapter 10 verse 32. Why was the word enlightened replaced with illuminate?

Hebrews 1026 about willing sin and no more sacrifices

I agree. Assembling is merely coming together as a congregation (however big that may be) to edify and exhort one another as fellow christians. No walls to any building are necessary. However, as time went by, more people gathered and a building was just a matter of course. I do believe there is an "outside" church near where I live. Quite frankly, I think an outside church is a great idea. This corona virus thing has forced my church into the parking lot and God's creation, and it is very nice. Yes, weather will take a toll, which is why the walls of a church are handy, but I am willing to go with it.

Assembling of people means church not a building, in the days of Jesus Christians got together in homes. Now days we have the internet, cell phones, Bible studies, churches people coming together . the list is endless God bless you .

I've looked and search and I'm just trying to be clear....the 25th verse says nothing about meeting in a building...so to speak in those days of the writer, there were no other forms of communication that could draw a closeness such as we have with technology today.....

There are so many people i've spoken to in reference to not being inside a church building, yet they are able to meet through a media platform...

question: Where in the bible does it state that the assembling is necessarily the inside of walls today....thanks, be bless.

In what way do you think that it is mean

Here, again, Christ encourages His followers to keep their "hearts" from fear and trouble. This repeats the statement Jesus used to start this message ( John 14:1), immediately after predicting Peter's cowardice ( John 13:38). Here, again, scholars suggest that Jesus is distinguishing between being troubled in one's "spirit," meaning pain and unhappiness, as opposed to being troubled in one's "heart," meaning fear and despair. Jesus was said to have a troubled spirit, at times ( John 11:33; 13:21). What He calls for here is not for Christians to be stone-faced and inhuman. Rather, it's to acknowledge the reality of suffering while at the same time trusting in God to make good on His promises.

If you had read those books and passages you would have seen that the 4 Disciples had been present with Jesus in all of His Ministry. The title, Apostles, means that person had witnessed Jesus Alive.

To deny it, is a perfect example of what an antichrist spirit looks like. You can't dispute: With what, IT IS WRITTEN.

Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, are known as the Harmony Of The Gospels. All four men witnessed the same events.

Mishael

Of the books of Matthew,Mark,Luke or John did any of them hear Jesus preach?

John14:27 mean

Likely Rick a Christian dad and mom that follow the Lord in the peace of God, and who train their children in the way of God will have children who will hear and obey the call of God to salvation in due time. A born again child say 12 years old is a member of God's Kingdom and if Baptized into God's Church on earth a member of the Bride of Christ, though young in age still a co- laborer in the faith once delivered unto the saints. This co- laborer by your view who knows the peace of God must be at fault until the laws of the land permit them to vote?

This is non- sense and of grave error.

Carleton

Hebrews 10:26

"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Is the verse saying there no more chances if you keep sinning because no more sacrifice? If you keep sinning you can't sacrifice to make up for the sin. Like you toast?

This verse talk like it is referring to you being alive and no more sacrifice for sin. If it meant after death they would not need to say " remaineth no more sacrifice for sins".

Man this hard to learn...Does it mean something else maybe?

Dear Lord, I give you my entire heart, soul and being. All of the training, studying and skills are yours. Each work that I do and the money I earn is done in your honor. I lay all of my hopes and aspirations at your feet. I pray that you will bless my work and find favor in all that I do. When I meet new challenges in my work, I pray that you will help me to overcome them and excel in my job. Please guide me throughout the day so that I may walk in your path in all that I do. Amen.

Protect me in this time away from home. When I return, go before me and give me favor with my doctors. I ask that this tumor would dry up and I am healed by Jesus dying on the Cross so I may give praise to you for a good report. And I shall tell of all of your mercy and grace and favor. Praise you Jesus forever, amen.