Hebrews Chapter 10 Discussion Page 9

Yes, I believe that it takes faith and patience to receive from God.

It is good being together to share the words of God.

This verse shows the importance of not only meeting together, but also encouraging one another as we meet together. Life is full of many problems and things that can weigh us down, so when we meet together with fellow believers, we should look for ways to encourage each other. The last part of this verse shows that we need to be encouraging even more so as we behold the day of God's judgement drawing near. Now is the most important and vital time of much needed encouragement.

lets not give up on being together

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.>>> Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.(NOTE:no one is ever justifed by the law now as per Galatians 3:11-13)>>>> Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their OWN righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.Romans10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.>>>Now, Listen to OUR LORD JESUS say it, and believe on the FATHER. Why? He said it's needed.>>> John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. Praise him now!! Peace be with you!>> John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

God said it, I believe it that settle it,God is faithful to His promises

It is great to be with A Body of Believers who truly love God and wants what God wants. Especially in the times we are in this scripture comes to life even more. You have to know Who You believe in and why. You gain strength from your church family and of course DAILY BIBLE READING AND PRAYER!!!

The law required the reapplying of the blood of animals. This brought men's consciences to condemn themselves year by year for their failure to please and obey GOD. However, Jesus's blood and his ability to take all judgement & condemnation& guilt releases men from the burden of having to obey every aspect of the unforgiving LAW. Herein lies true freedom, peace and joy.

no mercy for a child of God who sin willfully (intentionally)but the judgement of God Hebrews 10:26. it is possible for a believer to loose his salvation.

This is First and foremost for the Hebrews as in the message of Gospel itself (Just as The Lord told the gentile women asking for a healing gift, He stated that gifts were first for the "children" the scattered nation of God). That being understood first, let us lay aside Proxy Religious
Traditions of Ceremonial worship. If you do not understand that last sentence: I am saying Mass,Sunday Worship Service Wed Service, Seven Day of Advent Sabbath(Sat) or any scheduled service time is not what is being spoken of. The Hebrews were told not to FORSAKE the assembling of themselves together as the manner of some. Some were leaving the fellowship of believers (not associating with Brothers in Christ in any manner)
Jews would not only not hate the believers but treat them as lepers (virtually unclean) and even avoid speaking with them. Some did forsake and went back to trusting in the Law along with the Blood of Goats and Bulls.
speakers/Preachers who use this verse to keep people in the pew on Sat/Sun/Mass or whenever are men seeking continue their revenues of lucre of or they are following a gentile teaching that is merely a tradition of ceremony. We should worship every day. If you don't always attend on a given set day it has nothing to do with this verse. If deny this truth pastor God will remove you. Amen

We know that GOD will forgive us for all of our sins but our confession and asking for forgiveness must be sincere and we must be sorry for our sins. But to continually sin after knowing the truth without having any guilt there remains no sacrifice, you see what we fail to understand that GOD knows our hearts and minds and he knows if we are sorry or if we are just mocking him. I believe that this scripture is very important to todays church. GOD said that sinners are still going to hell! Saved sinners as well as unsaved! He said all liars, and whoremongers and fornicators etc... not just the unsaved. That's why he said, many will say Lord, Lord.

This is the point. The Church (God's saved people) as a body, would cease to exist if each member could just go it on their own and do whatever one liked. Pretty soon, it becomes more important to go to the ball game instead of meeting for worship. Any other distraction that replaces meeting with the saints for the purpose of worship leads away from Christ. Our one desire should be Him, not our desire to go to the beach or shopping, festivals, sports, etc. This will make for a weak walk and will eventually lead one away from Christ.

It is important to also remember that when we ***emble, that is for the purpose of worship- and to keep the commandment and institution of the Lord's Supper and the sacrifice He made. Kinda hard to do these things when you are busy with worldly pursuits. Meant for your thoughtful consideration.

As with all of the scripture, this verse needs to be interpreted within the context of what the writer is addressing. My understanding of this letter is that it is addressing Hebrew believers who, enduring great persecution, were returning back to the practices of Judaism. This is one of the reasons why the writer is spending so much time expounding the surp***ing excellency of Christ and the New Covenant in comparison with Moses and the Old. My understanding of this particular p***age is that the writer is not merely addressing a falling into sin or even the willful choice to sin (is not all sin, a choice of the will?). Instead, I believe the writer is addressing the forsaking of the faith in Christ and returning to the Jewish faith. If we look at it that way, it would be easy to understand that 'there remaineth no more sacrifice for sin because the only effectual sacrifice is that of Christ on the cross which the apostate has abandoned and to return to the old order is to go back to a mode of sacrifice which has been rendered ineffective in that the sacrifices of the old order have been replaced by the sacrifice of the Lamb of God. In short, to turn away from the New Covenant is to reject the only effective means of the cleansing of sin and be left with no means for cleansing whatsoever.

I do not believe that it says you can not repent and if/when you do and are still alive that means
you are not continuing to sin if your repentance is sincere. I choose to believe that it is never too late for sincere repentance to save you by the
blood of Jesus.

do this mean i can lose my salvation if i backslide?

I think all Bible readers agrees that there is no contradiction of all the p***ages, so if our conclusion has a contradiction even one verse of the Bible I think the conclusion is wrong. The name Jesus Christ, is the Mighty God is 100% God & 0% human. Supporting verse Number 23:19. The name Jesus is incomplete. The True name of God is the name Jesus Christ. This name is the New Name of our Heavenly Father name in the New Testament. Even if no verses in the Bible talked this name is a True God. But the following verses testified that this name Jesus Christ is a True & Great God. Mat. 28:18, Jh. 5:22, ICor. 5:10, Tito 2:13, Heb. 1:8, IPet. 1:17 & IJH. 5:20..

Fellowship is the main thing,where 2 or are gathered he is in the midst.Also we are the temple of our savior JESUS CHRIST,church is a building.We can fellowship over internet ,or prayer meetings,or church .I have had my share of beat downs and let downs,denominations is just a form of control by man not GOD ,believe this ,do that don't or do these are our beliefs if you don't believe that then lots of places won't welcome you,so much man made doctrine today,they preach what they believe and what they were taught ,we have to preach what the word teaches,not man,i go to church but really struggle ,good bible believeing ones are far between GBY,i really have issues with these bible versions some call satan GOD ,their in the pulpits .Ppl read them and don't even research them ,the same with what is said in the pulpit,they won't check it out ,lazy,They don't know what is truth ,only what is told to them .VERY SCARY and DANGEROUS

Fellowship is the main thing,where 2 or are gathered he is in the midst.Also we are the temple of our savior JESUS CHRIST,church is a building.We can fellowship over internet ,or prayer meetings,or church .I have had my share of beat downs and let downs,denominations is just a form of control by man not GOD ,believe this ,do that don't or do these are our beliefs if you don't believe that then lots of places won't welcome you,so much man made doctrine today,they preach what they believe and what they were taught ,we have to preach what the word teaches,not man,i go to church but really struggle ,good bible believeing ones are far between GBY

The Trinity is somewhat beyond our comprehension. As an analogy, I picture our own bodies. We have a right arm and a left arm and both are part of our body. Per God, we have our Father God, Jesus who is God, and the Holy Spirit which is God as well.

Remember that Jesus was 100% human and 100% God. The human side could be tempted, yet being God, He did not fall into the temptation.

If Jesus is God, who God's God? Jesus does the same thing at Revalation 3:12. where he mentions his God. Again, I ask, who is God's God? Does the Holy Ghost have a God too, or just Jesus?

For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. Awesome verse! The Corinthians were yet carnal when Paul wrote them the first letter, spiritual maturity doesn't happen at once. God disciplines us. John 15:3-5:
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

It’s scary but fair to all.

The Gentiles are not included for the forgiveness/redemption of sin in the blood shed of our Lord Jesus Christ. Gentiles’ forgiveness of sins is heartily believing the son of God named Jesus Christ. Verses to support Matthew 9:2 and Acts 10:43. Most Christians denominations teach that the blood shed of our Lord Jesus Christ is for the forgiveness of sins. They always preach this Gospel without verses in the bible to support their saying. Absolutely, forgiveness of sins through the blood of Jesus Christ is only given to the Jews/Israel nation. Supporting verses, Psalm 130:7-8. Israel nation was redeemed and the fulfilment of Psalm 130:7-8 is in Hebrews 9:15.

I believe every sin can be forgiven, except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which is the power of God of that saves us. In Mathew 12:31, Jesus says every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Hebrews 10:29 says that people have trampled the son of God (by rejecting the Son of God and blood that was offered through the power of the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead). Many Jewish Christian (who were grounded in Christ) of the first century, thought about returning to the Jewish faith. Some of Jesus teachings didn’t line up with the teaching of the rabbis. They questioned if Jesus was really was the Messiah. These Jewish converts were being persecuted. They did not want give up old Jewish traditions and forms of worship. And they thought that keeping the law would save them. They continued to sin by offering sacrifices in the Law of Moses instead of believing the sacrifice that Christ made at cross. The scriptures cannot say that we commit sins. We are saved because he died for all our sins, past, present, and future. Romans 3:23, for everyone has sinned and is fallen short of the Glory of God. 1 John 1:9 says if we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins. Johns 3:16 says God so loved the world that gave his begotten son that whoever believes will not perish. So the sin that the writer is dealing with in this passage is unbelief in the power of God to save you. The sin of unbelief of Jesus Christ redemptive work on the cross is the sin that cannot be forgiven (unbelief of the power of the Holy Spirit). These Jewish converts witnessed many miracles of God and still did not believe in Jesus.

@Leslie,
"What is the Truth?" Jesus Christ says “I am the Way, The Truth, and The life". Listen to Jesus and not man for His sheep hear His voice. Those who teach the Ten Commandments are not His sheep. We are now under Grace and not the law. If you are still under the law, you have fallen from Grace, and Christ has died in vain.

The author of Hebrews is talking to the Hebrews of that time. They were under many different types of persecutions and were going back to the synagogue (not assembling with the Christians) and repeating the same old mosaic sacrifices that never where able to remove sin. He explains this to them before Hebrews 10:26 after announcing to them that they were still spiritual infants only able to take milk and not yet able to eat solid food (meat). He tells them that by now, since the first time he educated them about Jesus, they should be teachers, not still infants. He explains the difference between Christ's one true offering and the old offerings (a shadow of the good thing to come) that only covered sin until the messiah came. After he told them about the one, true, and final offering, he summed it up with Hebrews 10:26. For if we sin willfully (continue sacrificing), it will lead to the same end that the law was always going to lead them to. He's telling them to put their faith in Jesus' offering. Then in Hebrews 10:29, he reiterates by telling them how bad it will be for those who look at Jesus' blood atonement as unholy (no different than the old sacrifices or a common thing). So, you see he's pushing the point that Jesus is the final payment for sin. Stop making more payments. It shows you don't believe his payment fulfilled the obligations of the covenant (contract). It shows you don't believe the period we are in.

Once saved not always saved! Jesus died on the cross so our sins would be forgiven, if we continue to sin after we have asked him to forgive us and give us the Holy Spirit, then that must mean he went through that unbelievable torture for nothing and we would be asking him to die for us all over again so we may be forgiven again... I don't think it will happen that way!

There was always a sacrifice for sin. Which had to contain blood. But it never made us any better. So God loved us so much he decided to shed his holy blood as our sacrifice which is pure and perfect this washed away our sins from God’s sight. Anytime you are dealing with something perfect, it completely overtakes something bad. Hard for us to understand because we have never seen nor heard of nothing perfect but God is. He then with faith will give us a new mind, by receiving his spirit, we will begin to think different because we have a new mind, and a new spirit the old one is gone. We are now made new. Now we have to feed our spirit with knowledge and wisdom because we still have a dual nature flesh against spirit, so stay in the word of God and spread the good news that shows your faith.

Wow! This is the chapter that teaches us to always fear God, and wait in faith.

Jesus died for our past, present and future sins and God will not remember our sins anymore and Jesus will reward us for how we lived in this world, not judge us, when He returns. Yet, preachers still tell people they are going to hell for breaking the Ten Commandments and cause self-condemnation in their minds. What is the Truth?