Hebrews Chapter 4 Discussion Page 4

To Mari - Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues - Book of Acts; You've got it RIGHT! Don't ever back down.

Jesus is our Sabbath. He is our Rest. To keep the Sabbath you have to enter into Christ and worship God everyday not 1 day a week. The news didnt get it.

See the end of Romans 9

We are told in this chapter that the one who has entered into God's rest has ceased from works (for salvation) as God ceased from His work on the 7th day. Religion will have you working yourself to death while really trusting and resting in Christ will yield peace and fruit of the Spirit. You will have good works because it won't be you. It will be the Spirit of God!

V. 2 states that the word preached unto the people did not profit them because it was not mixed with faith. Action is required in order us to witness the miracles of God. Many say knowledge is power, however, APPLIED revelation is power (Pastor T). God requires us to live by faith and that requires us to apply what we're taught in the word, otherwise, we are only hearers of the word and not doers.

The Rest in Heb is the 7000 thousandth Day the Reign of Christ on earth 1000 years.
Not the 7th;day this is why it says there remaineth a day after the creation.

I go w KJV bible.
Read numbers 15 32-36 (0T). Then Exo 16:25 (OT.) Now how do we re!ate 0T to NT? Bible teaches Sabbaths were a shadow of things to come. NT Matt 12:1. Also Col 2:16. Jeremiah 31:31-33 GI es some indication. " I wil make a new covenant. I will put my laws inside of them". Isa 28: 11-12 is talking about the Ho!y Ghost w speaking in tongues. Acts 2:1. Jesus is our rest 7 days

***Mari, The seventh day is Sabbath. You will find no where in the bible of a change to Sunday. This is a huge lie created to deceive. Tha Sabbath is of great importance. Tradition is now on Sunday. Read about tradition and the changing of time and laws in the bible. Hebrews 4:8 is the ultimate proof. Sabbath created at the foundation of the world. Gods remnant few won't bow to tradition.

Isnt CH 4 talking about the holy ghost? This is our rest in him. We do not worship on Saturday. Throughout the bible it explains things. Jesus is our rest if we have his spirit dwelling in us. We worship him every day.

Ambrose Okech... Read chapter 3 as well. The verse 8 speaks of Jesus. The modern bibles wish this to be hidden because it clearly says he did not change the day when he came. The error originates from the footnotes of the Geneva bible. The foundation of the world is Creation. Please read the Kjv version. All others have removed important things, adding to. The Sabbath is MOST IMPORTANT! See Exodus

By far one of the most important text in the New Testament. You will only find the accurate text in Kjv and the Geneva. However the Geneva's footnotes are in error. Vs 8 speaks of Jesus. Not "Joshua son of Nun". Those who are keeping Sunday please research every word of chapters 3-4. The biblical Sabbath was never changed. God changes not. Creation REST = Sabbath, from the foundation of the earth.

God is quick, strong, and powerful

Verse 13 shows that there is no hidden thought, word, or action to God and that we all must render an account to him.

I just understood better verse 12 of Heb 4 which says 'for the word of God is quick, and powerful and sharper than any twoedged sword..' Wow! it means God meant what He is saying, and it will come to pass. If you don't rest from sinning; from the works of flesh; from being unbelieving; and eternity catches up with you either by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, or by death, then you are doomed!

Ryan: Yes, we DO serve a wonderful God. You said: "...rest from sinning on the 7th day..." I've never heard it expressed like that, thank you.

"More over, I gave them My Sabbaths to be a SIGN, between Me and them, that they might KNOW that I am the LORD that SANCTIFY them." Ez. 20:12

Peace my friend!

I can see why you left. You said: "Brilliant Ryan" (sarcastically), "smell", "languished", "escaped". You also said: ".... I enjoy Divine Rest every day."

I've been an SDA all my life, and have always enjoyed "Divine Rest" every day.... And.... the Seventh Day is still Holy to the Lord, set apart, Sanctified, Blessed, Hallowed, Kept by God. Love God my friend...Peace!

Brilliant Ryan, How did you ever come up with that conclusion. Do I smell an SDA? Seems like it to me. I languished in their theological camp since birth . Mercifully I escaped some 20 years ago and enjoy the Divine rest offered EVERY DAY!!!

...Quick and Powerful Word of God must therefore be sent to operation in all sphere of life in Jesus ' name.

I was reading in job 42;5-6 where Job said "I know ... that no thought can be withholden from thee. And, I repent in dust and ashes. this is another reminder that God cares what we think about ( phil. 4:8). and Job knew it. Job1:5 and although he did not sin with his lips ( Job 2:10) he held a grudge in his heart,until he repented . we must therefore keep our hearts with all diligence prov:4

What a wonderful God we serve! What is promised here is a rest from sinning on the 7th day Sabbath. We just need to be willing.

HALLELUIAH, THANKS BE TO GOD. CERTAINLY, WE ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS JOURNEY. OUR GOD FEELS WHAT WE ARE FEELING NOW THAT'S WHY HE CAN ALWAYS COME TO OUR RESCUE.

Glory be to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who also feels the pains and agony we the children are passing through in the world today.He has indeed promised to assist us at anytime we need His assistance.

we should therefore call upon him in times of distress, believing our father will hear us knowing that his mercies for us are new every morning.

A word is sharper than the sword.so we must be careful how we speak and they come back like a boomerang to the person who utters them

Ambrose: Definitely Jesus................and God's rest or provisions for our salvation. The Israelites were brought out of bondage, but they grumbled and complained, and when all was said and done they disobeyed God. Therefore because of their unbelief.........the were separated from the promised land. Our promise land is in Heaven and they died in the wilderness and their children because of their unbelief :' We must stay pressing in and onward with faith so we may be found deemed worthy in the time of Judgement ahead. Stay strong brothers and sisters in the faith

Somebody must surely tell me: who was being refered to here, joshua, or Jesus? Even if Jesus is the Greek translation of the hebrew word Jesus, how then was it used in this context for the translaters to opt to use 'joshua' now? How different is it from all the use of Jesus throughout the new testament? Think of it, even if joshua indeed gave them rest, the israelites would still need this rest reffered to in this chapter. So it refers to jesus, coz, if Jesus gave them rest they would need none. They also need this rest coz they did not get it then...........from the giver of rest!!

Heb.4 and the commentary really shined light on the power of God's word and what it will do .diligence is a must for change...

this is where we have the opportunity to testify about the living word

We cease from Our works of the flesh

such a wonderful scripture .I too am so satisfied to know all the words to be the word and the work of God. the greastest book every if you want to know God himself you must get acquainted with the bible.

Jesus himself is the word of God. Whoever accept his words and obey them will recieve peace and life in abundance. For God's words are powerful than a sword. It is very important to mediate God's words day and night than prayers. Our Faith comes from God and it is a gift from God. We recieve Faith only by hearing the word of God. Therefore without Christ into our life we cant do anything. Jesus made everything new and thanks for his blood that shed for us. We are already saved by his Grace. But after all Jesus are still struggling for our unbelief . We must open our doors to Jesus and believed him that He is the Son of the Living God who can saved us. John 3:16 and John 3:5 we need to put this words into our hearts. Our Obedience in God are more important than Sacrifice. I will trust you Lord Jesus and will praised you forever for you are worthy to be praised. Amen and i love you Jesus forever