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When I read your post, the Holy Spirit chose that scripture for you: "for the joy set before him".

That shows me that He has heard your question and He's going to open it up to you.

Myself and others were rescued out of impossible lifestyles and unbelief, to be here now. To gives a hand to someone else.

A lot of people are here to be of help, answering questions. We're all different, different backgrounds, education, life experiences, and more. We're all learning new things too. The greatest Teacher is the Holy Spirit. I found that the more scripture I pack into me, the easier I hear the Holy Spirit. He alone knows what we need. New relationships are sometimes slow to start, but after a while we almost know what the other person is going to say. That's cool when it happens.

Keep coming back. I'll remember your name.

Blessings and Peace on you

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And 'we don't have to suffer to avoid Hell': there's no suffering for the child of God, only peace with God, joy & expectation that our sins have been dealt with & our destiny is in the presence of our Loving Father & His precious Son for all eternity.

Apologies for the lengthy answer - I just noticed that others have shared also. May the Lord guide you & bless you as you seek to understand the great cost of your salvation.

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All this pointed to a time in the future when God would then "provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering." ( Genesis 22:8). So the Old Testament showed the people their sin & need for a substitute sacrifice but all it did was to temporarily cover their sin (i.e. avert God's Anger against them) until the coming of "the better hope & the better Covenant" ( Hebrews 7:19,22). What was this new Hope & Covenant for Israel? Sin was still sin & the penalty then was the same penalty now, but the difference now was that God Himself would provide His Own sacrificial Lamb. All other sacrifices fell far short in God's justice system & could never deal with the sin issue - all people remained condemned before Him.

But the same love that God had for His people in those old days was still very much the same to be demonstrated in these last days. John 3:16 best describes that Love which not only was for Israel but through this special Sacrifice, would encompass all people that each one could be saved by it, simply by looking to Him in faith. And the only Sacrifice that could demonstrate that Love & fulfil His Holy demands was that God Himself would, through His Son (the Word given flesh), would lay down His Life for us all. There could be no other suitable or acceptable sacrifice for our sins & to divert God's Anger against us that would send us to Hell for eternity. No man or animal could fully pay the price - God willingly gave of Himself for us all. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" ( John 15:13 & 1 John 3:16 "Hereby perceive we the love of God, because HE laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren). And the 'brutality of His Death' was because of the prevailing Roman form of execution, i.e. the release of Barabbas that Jesus might be crucified in his place.

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Hello Randy. Looking at the sacrifice of Jesus, the Son of God, from the human standpoint, I would agree with your question & it could also make me wonder also as to why God couldn't provide another way for our redemption. But with any biblical question that needs an answer, we have to find it by understanding God's Wisdom as seen in ALL of Scripture. Please bear with me.

In God's Justice system, if anything is done in opposition to His Law (whether verbal or written), the penalty for that disobedience is death: "For the wages of sin (breaking of the Law) is death" ( Romans 6:23) & "as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" ( Romans 5:12). We suffer death because we are all sinners - all have disobeyed God's Will (whether Jew or non-Jew). But was death the only punishment for sinners seeing that the spirit of man (our immaterial part that is really who we are) cannot die? The body has to die & return to dust but the spirit still has to face judgement for his disobedience & rejection of God: "it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" ( Hebrews 9:27).

But God's people (Israel) still had to have a set of rules & regulations from God that they had to obey to have a right standing before Him & if they failed to do so, their sinful state remained & they would stand before the Great Judge. Of course, they failed, as we also do now, because those Laws only revealed to us our sinfulness & incapability to fulfil them. So God introduced the sacrificial system whereby Israel faithfully had various sacrifices performed so that God would be appeased by this act of payment of life for life. Rather than the Israelite being executed for his sin (which would mean that all would have been killed), God's Anger & Judgement against him was appeased by the sacrifice of an unblemished animal as his substitute (Leviticus chapter 1).

Hi Randy,

Just to add a little more to Mishael's relpy,

As this explains that even in the Old Testament there was no remission of sins without blood. Why they had to sacrifice animals for the sins they committed. Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God and the perfect sacrifice or offering once and for all for the sins of the whole world. Hebrews 9

But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us

For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh

How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood

For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people

Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you

Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry

And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission

It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these

For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for Him shall He appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

I cut right to the chase and ask God why he couldn't have cut out this part of the journey. No one likes it.

Hebrews Chapter 12

1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily opposes us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who FOR THE JOY that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

3 For consider him (Jesus) that endured such

contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

As a person of the Godhead ( Romans 1), the plan was already decided amongst them. Adam sinned and Jesus stepped in to become 2nd Adam. See Genesis 3:15.

This is how we know we can have great confidence in God, through Jesus Christ. He is worthy of our thanks, praise and honor. Salvation is a gift. A gift we have to receive.

Be at peace, that Jesus came to you because heaven would not be complete without you.

1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

1 Corinthians 15:45

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1 Corinthians 15:47

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is THE LORD from heaven.

Mishael

If u make a promise to GOD and u do not do what you promise what is the out come of it. 2 question is. If a person speck in the holy ghost tongue and they are not in church or living right can that happen

I had. Man wonderful people in my life. I SPENT many years helping others growing in christ serving christ. I starting at a elementery age reading and stufying the bible.Then at 17 through current i have went through trinulations that scare me to thr core. Forgiveness was the big wall for me I am currently reafy to forgive my coworkers for the evil attacks and robberies _the multiple ifentity thefts-the lies and evidence set ups that almost landed me in prison yes while i was working going to school. Raising my children step children etc someone identity thefted me and my name was in crime and my coworkers said it was me. And the cops came for me can you believe that__ the attack with a tazer gun the attempted poisoming _ i currently found some peace in the lord by letting him hamdle it i womt visit it i am back to finding gods love and he is protecti ng me now that i dont go to work ___

Thank you so much for that explanation. I can read the verse with a clearer undersanding

In Isaiah 43:28, God is saying that the princes of the sanctuary (i.e. the priests who served God in the Tabernacle) who were considered special, set apart for God's service, would also suffer the same fate as the people (i.e. they would be profaned or treated with contempt rather than being honoured for their special position).

Another rendering of "given Jacob to the curse & Israel to reproaches", speaks of Jacob (Israel) given to destruction in their respective captivities to Babylon & Assyria & that in their captivities they would be scorned & held in contempt by the inhabitants of those lands. It was a very bleak outlook for Judah & Israel, but was a necessary punishment because of the many sins they committed & even at times, falling down to worship idols. They did suffer badly, but did they learn their lesson? Man has the eternal compulsion to follow after the world & not obey the God Who loves & cares for him.

Alexis i agree with your comment . kenneth the bible says: in romans 3:23 for everyone has sinned,we all fall short of god's glorious standard.'

I do not understand verse 28. what was Jacobs curse and the princes of the sanctuary.

are they the priest, pastors

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." ( Romans 8:28) when seeking answers -sometimes its hard to find Gods will or purpose for my life- through all the agendas of others -deceiving us through lies and false messages ,and even my own short comings in prayers and interpretations --I second guess things -now -where as before I was more confident in what the Lord was telling me -- i turned to the Lord-for all advice and prayed , read the bible -I get the answers and things were progressing --now looking back-my husband was the wrong choice the inability to have financial stability and a Christian home-says all my efforts were a waste - meaning it started well then I guess somewhere it was stressful and my agendas to relieve it going to god for answers well well It was a failure big time but we are alive --so was it to conclude now i come to the lord with his purpose --so now again I come to the Lord with a decision--tell me suggestions on my approach --seeking Gods will and purpose

Alex's comments about the Israel of God. This ppl have i formed for my self , What is he speaking of, which ppl, the Israel of God which are spirits that comes from the seed of the sower the living Words of God which are spirits as God is spirit .Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit which are the good seeds the living words of God that are gona be born in our hearts etc THE ISRAEL OF GOD that are gonna come via the seed of Christ not the seed of any man these are the Children of Promise our new innerman which is spirit . Thats y the sun nor the moon lites on them simply b/c they are spirits GODS . Jesus will reproduce after the God kind simply b/c he is God the son and his seed is the living word the very seed of God .These are the new things Isaiah speaks of ,that new creature that is gonna be born in US ,That new heaven and new earth . This ppl have i formed for my self they shall shew forth my PRAISE WHICH ARE THE BABES AND SUCKLINGS THE LIVING WORDS THAT CAN PRAISE HIM PERFECTLY, Be ye perfect as your father in heaven is perfect , The gift of the H.G is gonna make us perfect simply b/c the H.G is God the granson that seed of Christ Jesus that is gonna become the Israel of God.Outta the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected Praise these are that ppl he has formed for himself the ISRAEL OF GOD. The bride that heavenly Jacob . Unless the Lord of the sabbath had left us a seed we wd have been made like sodom and gomarah thus the seed of the sower is gona make us perfect as it is the seed of a kingdom and a king O IMMANUEL The stretching out of his wings are gona fill this whole world , Remember David saw this whole world at rest and full of his GLORY. ( Behold ME and the Children the LORD has given ME are they not for signs and wonders to the house of Israel ( the Israel of God ) There,s a baby Christ in our near future thats y Jesus was born that he might produce an Israel of God via his precious Seed living WORD TH H.G. TH PROMISE.

I think to be good and happy is the best way to live....

Philippians 4:6 - Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Matthew 6:6 - But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

James 1:5 - If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

Matthew 6:9

John 14:13-15

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Believe the Lord Jesus Christ died for your sins, repent of your sins, pray to the Father in heaven in Jesus name. Pray privately in sincerity because the Lord knows what your thinking. Our Father wants to hear from his children and loves us very much. He might not love what we do sometimes but he still loves us.

Would some dear Christian friend advise me on how to pray and fast?

Thank you so much.

Love everyone on here, Hope to see you all on the new Earth someday.

Thank You Claire!

May the spirit of the Lord be with you also today...

Good morning! Good afternoon! Good evening!

My prayer for you and me.

Grace and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ be with you. That God will fill you with all joy and peace believing, that you may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Spirit.

Be at peace today, please do not upset yourself with the horrors that are taking place in the world. Finally be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with us. Amen

Something for us to meditate on that is pure and true.

AND WE KNOW:

That our Savior is true. Mt 22:16, MK 12:14

That our Savior sayest and teaches rightly LK 20:21

That our Savior is a teacher come from God JN 3:2

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love GOD. Rom 8:28

I have a Question on a believer who has turned against God in this time of Satan but She still in church but out of church post awful comments against our President and is believing all the hate in our country is right the looting and burning murders believes abortion and same sex marriage is ok

Praise the Lord! What is spiritual difference between: Jesus as my Maker and Jesus as my Creator?

On Is:43 Friends let no one deceive you-there is Sin always will be Sin

That's the reason why Jesus left His Throne sitting on the Wright Hand of God The Father and come down to give Himself a

Ransome for UsAll, because God The Father couldn't fine anyone sinless, So Jesuscame down n died to save UsAll and because of His Love for us(John ch3:16-21

Because of Sin, why Jesus had to come down born as a little child, InviteHim to come N abide in You(The HolySpirit)

Then the Father will see us through Jesus He is the only way to The Father. God the Fatherwants us to seek Him n talk with Him but we have to go through that Door which is Jesus(the only Perfect One)Sin will always be here Be Bless

So did I. By faith I asked God, by the power of the Holy Spirit, to remove the memories of sin. I had been an astrologer and my mind was filled with 1000s of interpretation of planetary aspects.

Afterward, I tried to remember anything simple and it was just gone from me!!

The Holy Spirit already knows what's troubling your mind. If it's old lovers or memories of abuse even: BY FAITH

give the memories to Him and He will give you peace from the old sins; memories.

Every time you remember that you forget, Praise God.

Memories are a place that Satan can still try to deflate our happiness in being saved and belonging to God.

You need to stay in Luke 15. Backsliding isn't really enjoyable. When all your money is gone, all those good pals move on.

The more you stray, the more you struggle to come back home where you are loved.

The conviction in your heart means the Holy Spirit is still dealing with you.

There's a stronger word written in Deuteronomy 30:14-19

I wish someone had told me that when I was younger. I wasted a lot of years.

When you are Born Again, John 3:3-21, you will receive help from the in dwelling of the Holy Spirit. He will guide you into all Truth.

Confess weakness at 1 John 1:9. Every day if need be. Receive strength. Gods mercies are new EVERY morning. Remember to thank Him for it.

Satan hates to lose one; but you make it clear that he has NO claim on you.

You wrote in. I think you are going to make it. I pray The Lord would reveal His Glory and blessing on you; keep His hand on your Life and strengthen you.

Build a little block of time in your days to spend in the Bible. Read the Gospels how strong and focused Jesus was. How aware of the people around him, he was. He didn't talk over their heads. He spoke plainly and openly.

If Jesus had 99 sheep in the fold and you had wandered a distanceHe would come find you.

God made us for his glory , god want our lives to dramatize his power also showcases his beauty, all our endeavors must glorify his name . i can say god created me for his glory not for satan's glory.

Instead of washing your mouth out with soap (yes, they did that)>>> you renew your mind With the washing of the Word of God.

Studying takes time, lots of time! First you need to be baptized into the Holy Spirit so you can understand what you're reading. He is your Teacher.

Jesus said to Follow Him, so you gotta get boots on and see which way he's goin.

A new song: if you're saved and you know it..... tell someone. :D

That's when you find out people have questions and you're not sure about the answers.

Look. Everybody else is out of the closet, so should be Christians. Then there's the fact that our country kicked Jesus out of schools in 1962.

In 1973, Roe vs Wade made it legal to abort college tuition payers who would become future taxpayers so your future as a retiree would be secure too. No one anticipated future fallout from that. I asked God what can we do, and He said he was going to take care of it! Did you know all the little almost babies are in heaven now, alive and well. Heaven is going to be fantastic. And there will be pizza too.

If you draw close to God so that your footsteps are almost on His, you will learn many things. He's the most interesting person I ever met. Study the relationship between Father and Son; Son and Holy Spirit. What do they say about each other? What do they do together? Look at this planet and the universe and note all the sheer numbers and varieties of each species, landscapes, vegetation's. Imprint your memories. Isaiah 51:6,

2nd Peter 3:10-12. New Jerusalem will be even more beautifully adorned.

What an exciting time for you. We are the generation that will NOT pass away till all these things happen.

You may be the workers of the Lord of the Harvest. Praise God.

Now go look up all these scriptures :)

Who's sleeping? We have to wash clothes & fold them too. Read some of the history at the bottom of this page. Hit it hard all weekend...

Ok verse 25 says he blots out or transgressions for his sake, can anyone explain to me how I can be forgiven if I willfully sinned knowing it was wrong when i did it. I've repented but feel do distant from God. I know i am not the only one i read a lot of comments about people not feeling forgiven. Someone help

No one is going to agree on the time of the Caught Up (rapture). IT'S A MYSTERY!

Trying to predict it is akin to those who predicted 1988 to be that time. It didn't happen.

The harmony of the gospels all agree that ONLY the Father knows. Jesus is seated at the right hand of God until such time. He's interceding for ALL saints, presently.

Caught Up clearly means that Jesus will NOT descend all the way to earth (as most have agreed upon). This is happening in the air. We escape the law of gravity in a blink. He meets us, and we are transformed. Those who sleep will rise with their transformed bodies. Jesus our Bridegroom, will take His Bride to a wedding and supper. There will be wine.

Who cares what exact date that happens? What is the fear? Do we think, oh I still have time to willfully sin a bit longer? Or maybe you'll think about getting loved ones born again? That's so HOLLOW. This is one time not to procrastinate.

We are TOLD to be ready with our lamps full of the oil of the Holy Spirit. Oil in one hand and "wedding dress" on.

I have sensed by what I've read, that readiness is the key consideration.

The Caught Up is NOT the triumphant return. We will not be here when the remainder of unfulfilled prophesies are suddenly fulfilled. Woe to everybody who chooses a TRIB. Don't be a Virgin with an empty Lamp!!!

Have you timed a twinkling of eye blink?

Get your last minute cares done NOW. Or you may be LEFT BEHIND. No oil, no wedding apparel, so sorry.

If you write a book on pre, mid, or post tribulation, I will not buy it. I'm ready to fly now :D

Rich, here is a verse for you: 1 John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Praise God for His forgiveness!