Isaiah Chapter 58 Discussion Page 2

Isaiah 58

GOD hates hypocrisy & fake religious acts, Isaiah 58:2-3, Isaiah 58:4,

GOD loves people, has compassion for widows, orphans, fatherless children, poor, Isaiah 58:6-7,

GOD gives chances for repentance Isaiah 58:1, Isaiah 58:5

GOD ALMIGHTY wants to bless us. Isaiah 58:8

Additional scriptures: Matthew 25:31-46, Psalms 139, Luke 13:34,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Paisley,

I was typing too fast. My name is GiGi.

Blessings to you!

Hi, Paisley,

I read all the way through to verse 20. that may help you understand the passage a bit better. God is calling out the Israelite people for turning their backs on God and living in disobedience, but still thinking that offering up bloody sacrifices and keeping certain holy days will garner favor with God. He wants His people to stay turned towards Him, to follow only Him and and His commands. Because they have not done so, they have met with devastation God has allowed so that they will return to Him and serve Him above all. He says, "Come let us reason together," and speaks of how He will cleanse them from sin and restore them. He calls the people to do what is good and right. A people that claims Him as their God should live godly lives.

That is some of what I get out of this passage. It tells me that God loves us but will allow hardships to come upon us to break us from rebellion and sin, so we will repent and live for God. This is His desire for believers as well. He is a forgiving God. He wants sincere worship from those who have "clean hands and hearts". You may discover some other things about God as you consider the passage more. I suggest re-reading it a few times to let the truth of His Word speak to you.

Thanks for asking. It caused me to consider this passage anew!

What does Isaiah 58:1-12 teach me about God?

Let him be the judge, Your scrutiny is not acceptable in his eyes.

Sir Scott

When we incorporate fasting our spirits become more resilient. Our temples are cleansed our minds become more receptive to the messages that He would have us hear with our spiritual faculties. He wants us to feel those hunger pains. He wants us to understand humility in many facets of our lives. Fasting is only one way that we can draw nearer unto Him. There are other ways we can fast in our lives, giving up remedial choices that are idols placed before Him. He wants our full best robust lives sanctified lives daily walking with him. Our lives can realistically be lived without sin each and every week. When we partake of His holy emblems on the Sabbath we are completely cleansed from all sin, baptized every Sabbath day when we walk through those doors at the end of our sabbath meeting. Fasting helps us elevate our spirits nearer to His. It allows Him to facilitate His thoughts into our minds or a higher level. Go ye therefore and be even as I am. He's asking us to offer a better self unto Him. Consider a monatary offering while you are fasting, watch the windows of heaven open with blessings you won't have room to receive. He's waiting with open arms. Your body/Temple will thank you for the rest it receives while you fast also.

Sister Audrey,

Best to read your bible and pray and ask God's Holy Sprit to help you understand what you read. There are many people out there that will try to lead you in the wrong direction.they interprete and twist the words they read in the Bible to mean whatever message they are trying to push.

The Sabbath Day has always been the last day of the week - Saturday. God gave us the Sabbath to rest, pray, reflect and give thanks to God. Yes the 4th commandment asks us to Keep Holy the Sabbath.

Many Christians and churches today do not keep the 4th commandment.

There are many references in the Bible regarding keeping God's 10 Commandments. Here is Jesus speaking the following Bible scripture below:

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

John 15:10

"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

In summary: You can always believe in the bible scripture!

God Bless

Audrey, my CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

In the Old Testament (old covenant) God lived in a TEMPLE made of wood and stone. Men met in that temple on the SABBATH.

In the NEW COVENANT Christ is the TEMPLE. Christ LIVES in YOU, making YOU the TEMPLE of GOD. You worship and praise God continually, making every moment the SABBATH, the Lord's day. RESTING in the WORKS OF CHRIST.

Don't be deceived by man's traditions.

I was raised in the Catholic church up until I was 27 years old. I then left the Catholic faith because I felt I didn't know God or the Lord Jesus in a way that I grew up hearing and listening about. It seemed the word of God was kept from us Catholics except for a couple of small scriptures and a twenty minute sermon I couldn't ever understand because the priests are from other areas of the world and have very broken English. I felt God was this like this supreme far away person spirit and I didn't really know him. I found a little steeple church by a distant relative and accepted Jesus as my savior and baptized in a river one day in a Christian camping adventure. When you teach about the Sabbath in these verses in Isaiah, it is a day to me that I've not taken the way God has commanded us to. I'm confused about the day of the week it falls on. And there's not one church that says it's on Saturday but uses Sunday as that holy day to God. It's like a big secret. The Catholic religion did not teach me the words of God, it showed me more that God exists and we did the same prayers and praises over and over again. Nothing was different. I hardly knew God' in a personal way nor his words in the bible what they truly say and mean. Now I have grown to know God and our Lord Jesus and how they both have guided me how to live and love others. What day is the Lord's day? I heard it Saturday. I just can't dedicate a day myself. I hope and pray to make it holy for God.

Many times we just go through the motions like as long we fellowship, as long we take up a space in church, we fail to keep the sabbath day holy because we are focused on what the Lord can do for us. Instead we should put all that aside and give our savior Praise and Worship

It is good reminder to service others and to give praises.

What do you think Isaiah 58:13 mean. What I know it means is, that if you don't keep it, you will be lost. Jesus said if ye love me keep my commandments. My brother John - the revelator, Not Sunday. If you do this, You do not love Him. Tell me, if this is truth.

This chapteer is a fast doing good doing right turning from evil serving others praying watching and drawing closer to god to know his ways and obey. does this chapter means to go without food. help

Raymond Quigano, GOD"S CALENDAR

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I have continually found that those that refute the Dead Sea Scrolls and the book of Enoch have not read them and show their complete dependence and reliance on what man (Catholic church) has declared to be divine writings.

A breakdown of the Enoch calendar

1) 12 month, 30 day month, 360 days

2) + 4 intercalary days (+ 1 occasional leap day) = 365 days

3) 364 / 7 = 52

4) Four intercalary days are to be lived but not reckoned, same with the occasional leap day.

5) Intercalary day (day of remembrance) is inserted at the end of each 3 month cycle.

6) 1st day of the 1st month is ALWAYS the day AFTER the spring equinox.

7) 1st day of the 1st month ALWAYS resets to the 4th day of the week.

8) Enoch lived 365 years.

The spring equinox is also called the "Great Gate"

The first day of the first month according to the Enoch calendar is ALWAYS the 4th (FOURTH) day of the week.

A check for this can be found in the book of Jubilees where it states that the Festival of Shavuot is ALWAYS the 15th day of the 3rd month and is ALWAYS the FIRST day of the week.

So if you count backwards to the 1st day of the 1st month it will ALWAYS be the 4th day of the week.

(Enoch 72:32-34) states that there is a separation day that is to occur at the spring equinox which separates each year. It is the day after day 364 and it does NOT have a day attached to it.

It is the time from the end of the 364th day until the spring equinox.

The day after the 364th day is intercalated.

The Enoch calendar is a holy priestly calendar that is based on 364 days ONLY.

The extra time until the equinox is used to calibrate the New Year. That time is not counted. The calendar is perfectly rectified every year.

Raymond Quijano,

I hear you loud and clear and completely agree.

I will do my best to keep God's calendar and not the ridiculous Gregorian calendar that has everyone fouled up.

The Book of Enoch from the Dead Sea Scrolls gives us the Solar Priestly Calendar.

The Book of Enoch covers topics on the solar priestly calendar, origins of demons and giants, why some angels fell from heaven, an explanation of why the Great Flood was morally necessary, and the thousand-year reign of the Messiah.

The Book of Jude speaks of these fallen angels and Enoch is mentioned as having preached against them ( Jude 1: 14-15).

Sabbath days remain constant on the Enoch calendar in relation to the spring equinox; but they will rotate on the Gregorian calendar.

Enoch lived 365 years (and possibly .242)

The spring equinox is the great equalizer of the calendar and is the leap day that rectifies the calendar every year (day 365.242), look at (Ps. Ch. 19)

March 20, 2020 (sunrise to sunrise) was the 365th day of the solar year (the day of the spring equinox), making March 21, 2020 the first day of the first month of the New Year (and the 4th day of the week)

The 364 day Enoch solar calendar runs off the 365.242 day solar cycle

When does the day start? Look at ( Gen 1:16, 18, 19:33, 34, Ex. 10:13, 16:22-27,

We are specifically commanded to use the SUN as the sign for days, Sabbaths, months, years, Sabbaths of years, jubilees, and feasts, and for all seasons of the year.

The LUNAR cycle for the year is 354 days

The Enoch solar calendar is 364 days (+ 365th and day of spring equinox)

The moon is to be for light upon the earth at night ( Gen. 1:14, Psalms 136:9, Jeremiah 31:35), for seasons ( Psalms 104:19), and for a witness to the covenant of David ( Psalms 89:37).

The ONLY calendar that can reckon Daniel's 70 weeks is the Enoch calendar.

Pope Gregory Calendar Or Gods Calendar of Genesis Chapter one

which one would you keep?

When I was a little girl, Bible study instilled in me that JESUS is a personal Saviour. Unfortunately, through life, my spirituality faltered on a dismal failure from being disobedient. But one day, when I was truly crying out for light in my darkness, the HOLY SPIRIT guided me to Isaiah 58. In that reading, comfort was administered with a deeper understanding of the relationship I could have with my FATHER. It is indeed a one-on-one, personal relationship made possible by the suffering and great sacrifice of JESUS CHRIST.



I understand verses 1-5, simply as redirection from GOD through Isaiah to stop our public and ceremonial fasting, which misses the point altogether of personally and meaningfully communicating our love to our FATHER.

GOD speaks to the hearts of all who are seeking HIM in Verses 6-8. HE makes plain what HE truly wants from HIS children -to love HIM and to love our neighbors - which of course is the precursor to the two great commandments of HIS only begotten SON, JESUS. ( Matthew 22:36-40)"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.")

In Verses 9-12, GOD clarifies that to fill our lives with loving and giving to others, is loving HIM - and in return, HE rewards us breathtakingly and powerfully.

But as a humbled child of GOD, it is in verses 13-14, that GOD reveals to me the sacred urgency of keeping the 4th commandment, "Remember the SABBATH DAY and keep it HOLY." HE tenders to my spirit how very much it means to HIM personally when I accept in my heart the sanctity of HIS (our Creator's) chosen day of rest.

For obeying HIM out of love and gratefulness, not fear, the blessings upon blessings, I receive from the vastness of HIS power, grace and mercy, empower me in ways mere words cannot express.

Love your insight!

Explain Isaiah 58-9. Its confusing

Isaiah 58 gives insight how to really fast.

Alex, you are misleading Debra and people reading your comments. Except for the Sabbath-day, God has not made every day holy. How would one provide for themselves/family if they refrained from work every day? We are commanded to refrain from work on the Sabbath day.

Today if you hear his voice. Read Isaiah 58:13

Interested in Scripture s about why the Sabbath day pertaining to God commandment to us as a reminder to us our sign of worship to him to be Saturday and not Sunday.

Do we make void the law by faith Gd forbid we establish the law. THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the law,( the old covenant ) is gonna be fulfilled by the New Covenant which is a birthing covenant via a heavenly seed. 1 of the facets of the cross was multiplication, When a seed dies it multiplies thus we might all get an incorruptible seed resulting in a birth of Christ in us, th essence of the New Covenant.

Jesus asked which of you keeps the law? None of you keeps the law. John 7;19 THUS TH NEED offer up an annual sacrifice for their Sins, Which is a picture of Christ the lamb of GOD that taketh away the SINS of the world thus a NEW COVENANT The old covenant cd not make man SINLESS.If PERFECTION came under the levitical Priesthood ( th law) what need was there for another priesthood AFTER MELCHEZIDEC.

Dennis; There are many things terribly wrong with what you wrote. First, and most important; God gave us the commandments with the intention of guiding our hearts in the way of holiness and love; and with the expectation that as His children we would have a heart to do them. Luke 1:6 "And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless."

It is impossible to keep the law there are 10 Commandments and over 6000 laws and if you break one you have failed totally. It says keep my commandments if you love me and you will truly want to keep his commandments if you love him but it is not possible. We do not live by the law. There are two Commandments in the New Testament and the whole ballgame changed when Jesus Christ died on the cross

Debra; There have been attempts to Judaize, and to bring the Disciples into bondage to some outward form of religious tradition or other from the earliest days. But that is not the kingdom of God! Paul wrote"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."

Debra God wants every day HOLY not just the Sabbath. and he wants this holiness to come from Christ in us via the new birth, THE new covenant ETC.And that Christ in us cannot sin thus we keep the commandments. A day is a 1000 yrs in the sight of GOD,THUS THE REAL SABBATH IS A 1000 YR DAY WHEN CHRIST WILL REIGN ON THE EARTH,David saw this earth at REST and full of his GLORY, REST IMPLIES A 7 TH DAY

Debra under this New Covenant we abide in Christ 24/7 Not 1 day a week,Its like a marriage 24/7 FOREVER.Jesus said if the Branches do not abide in the vine (Christ ) continually 24/7 they bring forth NO FRUIT , The disciples followed Jesus 24/7 not 1 day a week. He is our temple and we are his temple thats y he is saying abide in me and i in you meaning 24/7 like a marriage, he is our Bridegroom .

It still amazes me how many professing Christians do not keep the Sabbath holy, which is Friday Sunset to Saturday Sunset, not to mention the Ten Commandments. "IF you love Me, keep My Commandments." -GOD. Shabbat Shalom.