Jeremiah Chapter 12 Discussion

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Remember there is a special blessing on us (from the Lord) every time we read the Book of Revelation, chapter 1:3

Jeremiah 12,

I understand Jeremiah easier when I've read the whole book.

Jeremiah 1:1-3, Jeremiah had been called by GOD while young, Jeremiah 1:6, to speak very difficult words of Judgement, Jeremiah 1:8-10, in opposition to other "prophetic" voices telling them lies. Jeremiah 5:31,

In Jeremiah 11:19-21 they plotted to kill him.

This seems like to us & most likely to Jeremiah much time in human perspective had passed & GOD had said in Jeremiah 1:12, He would hasten HIS Word to perform it. GOD had promised judgement, yet by Chapter 12, Jeremiah seems frustrated because of the evil. Jeremiah 5:3-4, asks them to repent: Jeremiah 7:5-11,, Jeremiah 3:22 even looks like they repented in Jeremiah 3:22-25,

Jeremiah 5:1,2,

Jeremiah 12:4, the land had been troubled since Jeremiah 2,

Several Prophets suffered much from the people they were sent to. Matthew 23,

Hopefully this is helpful.

I do not get this chapter.

A clear indication here that his name has been changed early on to the point of all historical records bearing his name may have even been that name they were using incorrectly and then covered over again with generic terms as god and lord, even baal its self means lord. Liveth, coming after the name signifies he is reiterating what he told moses when he told him to tell the israelites I am that I am therefore tell them I AM has sent you. In specific unto whom he made himself known even having a name is it not disrespectful to call your dad by his first name even so the Son acknowledges His Father as living Father and came in His Fathers name saying many things declaring I am the living bread that cometh down from heaven. To address him otherwise would mean you are in opposition to life inquiring like a business proposal instead of inheriting the love that a Father has for his Son and a Son who heeds his Father's words to honor and return the same love he is loved with.

Absolutely God does know the heart this is why is wrote... Jeremiah 17:9 - The heart is deceitful above all things , and desperately wicked: who can know it? Also Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a FOOL: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

Stand fast in him. In Him. dont be moved. We are like the lion in the midst of a forest and are making his way straight. walk in the light ,as he is in the light. And we will abide according to his grace. Heaven and earth are his, he has conquered sin and death.Take His body and blood and Commune with him this season.

God's word is true! The whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. The corruption of sin has totally permeated the entire world. Only God is able to restore this fallen sinful world, so we must pray like Jeremiah for the Lord to intercede.

If Jeremiah was not able to handle the smaller trials in his life, he will not be able to handle the bigger trials for the simple reason. Things starts small and then they grow big. If he was not able to handle the small trials he would struggle in doing the bigger ones. He would need to trust in God to help him deal with the bigger and smaller trials.

BSP; I don't think Jeremiah was "complaining about smaller trials;" for from the whole tone of the chapter, he is evidently in deep spiritual discussion and prayer with the Lord about the evil condition of the people, and why the wicked are allowed so much room. Remember how God came to talk with Abraham about what was happening in Sodom? The Lord looks for like-minded friends to talk with.

Verse 5: Jeremiah was complaining about the smaller trials he was facing, but he was going to go through even bigger trials. If he could not deal with his smaller trials, how would he be able to deal with the bigger trials?

12:3
God know the heart of man and his limitations.

12:10 Many pastors today are sugar coating the word. I have church in my home with up to 4 people. We go from 10:00 am til 4:00 - 6:00. It seems that many churches today are more about rituals than spreading the word of God. This is a warning to these pastors.

Jesus said "come out of her" the church/government/worldly ways. Jesus said "the wolves (scribes pharisees. rabbis) were creeping into the church. Jesus said " You can not go to the father except thru himself". Jesus did NOT say to go back to these things. The whole purpose of this is because for those who accept
Jesus and follow the commandments of God and do not worship baal will have eternal

america is a very covetous and prideful , idolatry is number
one in the land, and false religions are in abundance,woe
unto them who call evil good,and good evil:that put darkness
for light,and light for darkness:that put bitter for sweet,and
sweet for bitter.isaiah5-20.judgement is comming repent
and bow to the lordship of jesus christ for salvation alone

" to swear by my name, The LORD liveth" Dont we always swear by Jesus name? Swearing here is more of taking an oath to God and His name being the most powerful of all, by what else would you swear an oath by to God? In His name, of course.

It says, "if they obey ". It has not happen yet up to the present. Do not fool me by saying that the present Israel is a prophetic fulfillment of this "return ".

It says, "Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard ". Attention all self-ordained pastors not called by God, wolves in sheep 's clothing, your fate is spelled in this chapter.

Verse 5 shows me that there are things in the land contending with us and trying to go ahead and weary us

Verse 16, I think it is important to understand the context in which the word swear is used. There are different meanings to the word swear. Swear is not always the use of offensive language. When one promises to do something they are swearing to do it. However, even when one promises to do something does not mean that they actually can do it because of circumstances beyond their control. This verse is in the context of changing ones beliefs with understanding that yes, the Lord does live. The Lord is unveiling his strength and Bible scripture is being fulfilled. People that do not believe in Jesus are seeing the Bibles truth being revealed exactly as it was written. Jesus is saying understand this and then accept Jesus as Lord. The word swear is not the use of man swearing that he can accomplish something by his own will, strength or merit which are statements as Jesus referred to in Mt.5.34, but instead is a proclamation of the reality that the Lord is ALIVE, he lives and he is in control! Jesus states that man can accomplish nothing on his own that is not the will of God. This swear in verse 16 is pledging acceptance, allegiance and love for the Lord. These people are converts to the truth and leave their false beliefs that the Lord does not live, behind them. If they refuse to love with understanding and continue to hate then they will be destroyed as stated in verse 17.

I thought we were not supposed to swear at all by heaven or earth according to Christ in the New Testament. Now what made the change from Old ways to the New ways? SO, I wonder am I taking "swear " out of context in my mind. "As the Lord YHWH lives " sounds like something the Father or His Son, Jesus, would like the sound of but so many people with too much time on their hands for them, it was "As the World turns " and so, I say, "Be not of this world,nor of its patterns, but come out of it and be separate. " AND in HIM there is no shadow of turning. As surely as YHWH lives, He convicted me about wasting my time on American soap opera T.V. if only I could be a linen sash around His waist.

Verse 6 compliments verse 5 but to me God was asking Jeremiah if you are struggling when things are at peace...how will you survive when things really get bad....

2 Timothy 1 7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love and self discipline.Despite the challenges I face everyday I am encouraged by this bible verse, knowing that my God is with me giving me the confidence to persevere and endure when the day is long and the load is heavy, I am assured that i will receive God 's peace.

obeying is what god expect from us not obeying is not fearing not fearing is no love we dishonour him by not obeying him

Somehow he shows up on me. In his glorious way he lets me know he's there. I'm in verge of being on street,no food,bill backed up,yet today's verse lets me know I must remain strong. I'm so scared,but something in me keeps me together. Thank you God!

It was so profound the dead own nothing they can't even protect their graves.But for God.

Don't be discouraged when the wicked prosper. Concentrate on the promises of God in the word of God and, the leading of the Holy Ghost. Remember that we are dust and all will return to it, we take nothing with us. We have been promised to rise again in translated glory. The wicked will become dust under our feet. Remember the humility of Abraham, he pitched tents on rented foreign land , a pilgrim but his progeny was promised ownership. We also must be subject to the principality and powers of the land we live in but, without surrender to disobedience of the Word of God and, the Holy Ghost. Like Daniel, the Lord will pull us from the fire and the lions den if necessary. We are tested but, not defeated. We have a race to run so, keep your eyes on the prize, even life forever more. Without life nothing matters..the dead own nothing, they can't protect their own graves! We have life in Christ and He rules His Kingdom, He will give every man his inheritance according to His good pleasure. God is good..Praise the Lord!

Obedience is primary to be saved. Yes, faith, but faith with no obedience is no faith at all.

It means we are made for greater challenges, we are made to subdued principalities & power's, so if you're been oppressed by witches & demons , you have fallen short of the glory of God. We are created in God's image. Heb 12:29 says our God is a consuming fire. & that's what we're. Blessed.

I think this is to encourage all Pilgrims not to give up in the face of small problems or what will we do when bigger problems show up in our journey...