John Chapter 13 Discussion Page 4

Can you imagine some Church leader throwing out John the Apostle, or any of those who supported Paul? ( 3 John 9-11) But everyone that is really and truly of God, will receive whosoever God sends to them. If they know us not, it is because they know not the Lord, whose we are. For us also, we must remember to be gentle and kind to every bruised reed and smoking flax; considering our own frailty.

Yes Maria

Perhaps a person stopped going to a particular church because he learned that the church follows/teaches false doctrine. It does not necessarily mean he has broken fellowship (cut off, fallen away) with the Lord.
It would be worse for him/her to continue worshiping with them. His sheep hears His voice, and they follow him,they do not hear the voice of strangers!

I agree with this post.my family has been to many churches within my community, and have come across imposters and those whom are not truly following the Lord's word. And I still come across those whom say they are loving and accepting but than they turn their backs and start being judgemental. I do not expect someone to be part of any fellowship to prove they are God loving and truly faithful

Walter, If a brother or sister doesn't want to go to a church; what does it concern you? Many in the Scriptures had to walk alone; not as a sign of God's disfavor, but of His Election. Not going to a Church doesn't mean they don't want fellowship; but more likely because they can't find it among the Church cliques of hypocrites and impostors. A true brother or sister will always recognize family!

Hello Walter; There are a number of references to certain ones who were once disciples, but then afterwards fell away and went back to the world and their sins, for one reason or the other. The simplest explanation is how the Lord warned, "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them into bundles and they are burned:" and, "Watch! and pray always!"

Vs. 4-8; does anyone have any comments on foot washing ..... ? Pro - con; doesn't matter. I have no designs to reply.

Walter - In your question, "Can anyone describe a backslidden Christian?" You went ahead and answered your own question - someone who has known salvation, and then quit fellowshipping with the saints he was with in THE church he was spiritually born into.

Walt:No one is Saved Without The Father's Call:Tug on The Heart John6:44,Then ask forgiveness. Many believe they're Saved: just saying a Prayer,dipped in water,call on His Name--etc. Proverbs 1:24. When The Spirit moves in:Your Life is 100% So Much Different,Changed dramatically! You "Will"tell others!--But if one sins 1Hr.-Yrs: 1John 1:9, Galatians 6:1

Walter,it is described all through the NT.Romans11:20-23, 2John9, Rev.22:14-15 "those that love and practice a lie will not enter His Kingdom.Also Rev21:8..I expect many will say "once saved, always saved" I do not believe it. The whole of the Bible is worthy for instruction in righteousness; Proverbs 10:17, Psalm 119:118. Paul gives the Corinthians instruction in this. God says much about it.

Can anyone define a backslidden Christian? It is used in the OT referring to the nation of Israel but not in the NT referring to those who are born again. Any examples in the bible where someone saved didn't want to go to church, fellowship w/the saints, read their bible, witness for Christ...etc? It's a serious question, thx!

Yes, let Jesus' love rule; "At the cross, at the cross, where I first saw the light, and the burden of my heart rolled away; it was there by faith I received my sight, and now I am happy all the day."

V. 38 - 42 yrs. ago I first came to the Lord in repentance at a church altar and I heard of a woman who had been in the ch. forb7 yrs., a Sun. sch. teacher and - she backslide - for 14 yrs. I was just new in the ch. and ignorant and full of myself and said, "If I was ever in the ch. that long I sure wouldn't backslide!" Well, 5 yrs. later the Lord showed me different; I backslide for 34 yrs.

That is so true. We should do more than the sinners are doing we should not be afraid to speak out load.

John 13: Vs. 8

so bless to read this words of God.

Thank you Jehovah for your infinite love through Jesus our Lord!

Blessing to know God is LOVE and he loves us,and with the love of the HOLY SPIRIT we can love others!

So very true , I have learned this later in life not as a younger man .

God is love. Love is God. That the word of the living God.

FOR GOD IS LOVE, WE ARE SAVED BY GOD'S GRACE. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD IF WE LOVE HIM WE SHOULD OBEY HIS WORDS TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS HE LOVES US . THANKS TO THE BLOOD OF JESUS THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR RESURRECTION, YOUR ASCENSION INTO HEAVEN AND THANK YOU FOR SENDING US YOUR HOLY SPIRIT I WILL WORSHIP YOU ALONE AND PRAISE YOU JESUS.MY JEHOVAH JIREH MY SAVIOR

Amen to that! Like Lenny Kravitz sings, let love rule! We are all God's children. Love you Jesus!

To love others as Jesus loves me is to forgive them before they ever do anything to me. That is what God did to and for me : Before I was ever conceived in my mothers womb I was forgiven :Difficult to do , but with help of Holy Spirit within : It can be done : And it will be.

Amen.

Our SAVIOUR has given us instructions telling us to love one another until we are with him again. He has shown us with examples not only words.

Jesus not only taught humility but he showed it. He took the initiative to wash the feet of his apostles showing that they shouldn't think they were too good to do kind and humble things for others.

Jesus set an excellent example in showing self-sacrificing love, putting the needs and interests of others ahead of self. We too should want to display unselfish love, and we are to do it so plainly that our love is evident to everyone who sees us.

The world you show more love towards one another !!!

JESUS knew what Judas was going to do. Judas had rejected the Way, he rejected the Truth, he rejected the Life. Judas chose to still kill destroy. Just like ? JESUS was talking to satan in Judas, Judas did not submit to JESUS CHRIST as LORD SAVIOUR. To as many as recieve HIM JESUS to them gives HE the power to become Sons of GOD.

Today and everyday we should be THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL JUST BECAUSE GOD GIVES US LIGHT FROM THE SUN! HOW COULD PEOPLE NOT BELIEVE IN HIS SON JESUS WHO HAD NO SIN. GOD SAID TO ME THE WILL OF GOD IS THE WORD OF GOD. IN GENESIS 1:1. IN THE BEGINNING GOD-- IN JOHN 1:1. IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD. GOD 'S WORD! :- BE BLESSED BY THE BEST JESUS