John Chapter 19 Discussion Page 2

Continued : Matthew 15,

Absence of words do not set an agreement to a matter.

Where did HE say that? About washing? HE said Matthew 15:3, Matthew 15:7-11, Matthew 16:20,

These were leaders, teachers, transcribers of GOD's Laws, "the Holy Scriptures" in the Jewish religion. HE, Jesus "Jewish" Messiah, was pointing out to them the importance of the Laws they were supposed to know, transcribe & teach.

Matthew 15:7-9, HE, Jesus brings of prophetic Words from the very Books they were supposed to know. Then HE addresses the people. Matthew 15:10-12,13,14

Then Matthew 15:15-20 Jesus points out the true defilement Matthew 15:18,19,20,

Matthew 15:22-28, Romans 1:16-24,

interestingly we feel offended for her, yet she persisted, then was granted a miracle & an edification for her "great faith" .

Hopefully these are helpful.

How could Jesus tell us to be perfect in Matthew when that's impossible. Why did Jesus say he came only for the lost sheep of Israel and call a Canaanite woman a dog? Why did Jesus tell us not to wash our hands before we eat? Did Jesus nullify many of the laws of Moses and if so I thought he said he came to fulfill the law and not to change one jot or tittle?

Hi Louis. I believe that it was John who is referred to in John 19:26,27. Why I think this, is because in other places (e.g. John 13:23; John 20:2; John 21:20) John resorts to this expression "the disciple whom He loved" & speaking in such a manner was common when the focus was taken off oneself. We can also think of 2 Corinthians 12:1-7 as an example, where clearly the Apostle Paul is speaking of His experience of Heaven though not naming himself as the one.

Then in John 21:20-24, Peter questions Jesus about "what shall this man (?) do?" And then the brethren believed "that that disciple (?) should not die". Again, who is that disciple? John then says in verse 24, "This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true." Or, 'I am that disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things...". Therefore, we can say with all certainty that the disciple whom Jesus loved was indeed John, the Apostle who referred to himself as such.

Who exactly was it that Jesus told behold thy mother. I do know this is the book of John but does that alone make the desciple who cared for Mary, John? A current discussion in my Sunday School class.

Prophesy written by King David hundreds of years prior: said Judas would betray Jesus; so, As being the Word of God (on earth), Jesus knew this would happen just as it did.

"Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, Who ate my bread, Has lifted up his heel against me."( Psalm 41:9 NKJV)

Judas knew who Jesus was. Yet he still did it. The hour of shadows.

Judas denied Him? Refused to chose to wait 72 hours for Him to come out of the cave! Could he have repented as darkness closed his brain? Did a light appear giving him another chance to accept the love of Creator? I remember the death struggle of an avowed atheist, if only I could have gone to her enfolded her in my arms. I believe Creator knows she did the best she could in her life.

What was the time of day when Jesus was baptized?

What was the time of day when Jesus gave up the ghost?

Are these two dates 42 months apart, to the minute?

I think Nicodemus was probably with the crowd on Golgotha when Jesus was crucified. I think he knew that this was all scripture and prophesy being fulfilled. On that day over 100 prophesies were completed.

Google, Charts of fulfilled prophesies by Jesus.

There are charts on Old Testament, and New Testament Prophesies.

It is amazing!!!! One person did all that with His life. And yet people can still deny Him.

Pray against Spiritual Blindness and Deafness. For ears to be open to hear the truth; for eyes to see the words on the pages of the Bible. For understanding.

Nicodemus means valorous leader. Yet he met secretly with Christ Jesus prior to Calvary. This while his disciples openly contemplate their position in his reign.

Now sacrificed for our sins, it is Nicodemus, who openly serves the Lord, while his disciple hide/ forsake him.

I believe that Nicodemus is saved, born again, in heaven with our Lord Jesus Christ!

Those romans are so mean

Lyn,

There are 5 verses you are listing. Is there a particular verse you are needing help with? Or, what specifically would be your question? This section in Titus Chapter 1, Verses 5-16 is giving us instruction on leadership. If you have a specific question on that section, I would be happy to try and help you. But to go over each verse would take more than one post. I would also be willing to do that for you if you wish?

Paul left Titus in Crete to lay a foundation for a Christian church planting there. He instructs him in choices of what kind of men to assist him.

Set IN ORDER according to the known Will of God, by Jesus Christ.

I haven't looked up the history of this moment, but you can. Put the BOOK OF TITUS in Google, then type: history after it. Look through the first 5 responses.

There's another story where a king is told, set thine house in order; you're going to die. He repents and lives longer.

So you can put that phrase into this websites: SEARCH BOX. Set in order. All scriptures with that phrase will be fetched by the search engine. It helps us study deeper, God who is a God of order.

Satan is a "god" of CHAOS. Whatever he finds that is in order, he tears at it until it's in sin and disarray. That is his FRUIT. He has many! Get to know all of them. That's how we know he's trying to set our homes, work, friendships, etc, in Chaos. Time to pray and get Church members to pray with us, if need be.

Let's be sensitive to order vs chaos. It's a pattern for success or, chaos. Titus learned that traveling with Paul: as did the Disciples that traveled with Jesus.

Job had a great life until Chaos showed up on the scene. Job had to resist blaming God for it. He learned the blessing of trusting God, despite the mess around him and "friends" that ACCUSED him of some secret sin.

Accuser, is another name of Satan. We all need to pay attention to the signs of his presence. Stay in the Bible and even READ IT OUT LOUD. He doesn't want to hear it. Praise, and sing Jesus Loves Me if that's all you can think of, in the "battle."

When Jesus was facing a battle, He got away from the crowd and Prayed. Always. That's our Example.

Hope this helped you. Mishael

Hello just wandering if anyone can answer my question please!

This verse Titus 1:5-9 I do understand it, but what if the case are not what's written in this verse? What is the right thing to do?

Thank you so much.

"the mother of us all" is and always will be without bondage and likewise her children. It's eternal and it begins in the hearts and lives of men made free from sin by a finished faith in Jesus Christ. He is our rest from our own works and our redeemer and friend and heavenly home.

:)

Galatians Chapter Four has a lot of wonder in regard to freedom in Christ Jesus.



Verses 21-31

Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

But, he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Which things are an allegory: for these are the two convenants, the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath a husband.

Now we, brethern, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

So then, brethern, we are not children of the bondwoman, but children of the free.

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God sent forward his message in vessels of clay,

The message is revealed by the Spirit of God, ( The Holyspirit )

The clay vessels is the messengers

The message is Jesus Christ, John 1:1.

The Holyspirit reveals his message,

We don't depend on the vessel, we hear the Great Shepherd.

John 10:26-27 (KJV) But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Now listen to the Lord speaking to the Pharisees:

John 8:43. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

Do you hear his voice? If so what about Revelation 1:8?

God sent forward his message in vessels of clay,

The message is revealed by the Spirit of God, ( The Holyspirit )

The clay vessels is the messengers

The message is Jesus Christ, John 1:1.

The Holyspirit reveals his message,

We don't depend on the vessel, we hear the Great Shepherd.

John 10:26-27 (KJV) But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

Now He's speaking to the Pharisees:

John 8:43. Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

Do you hear his voice? If so what about Revelation 1:8?

REVELATION 1:1. THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST,

Revelation-

Greek:

Transliteration: apokalupsis

Pronunciation: ap-ok-al'-oop-sis

Definition: From G601; DISCLOSURE: - appearing coming lighten manifestation be revealed revelation.

KJV Usage: revelation(12x), be revealed(2x), to lighten(withG1519)(1x), manifestation(1x), coming(1x), appearing(1x).

Occurs: 18.

Here we have the DISCLOSURE/ UNVEILED/ CONCLUSION/ AND THE CLIMAX of our Lord from the volume of the scripture!!

The LORD sums it up himself.

Revelation 1:8 (KJV) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, ""the Almighty.""

The Almighty-

Greek:

Transliteration: pantokratr

Pronunciation: pan-tok-rat'-ore

Definition: From G3956 and G2904; the all ruling that is God (as absolute and universal sovereign): - Almighty Omnipotent.

KJV Usage: Almighty(9x), omnipotent(1x).

Occurs: 10.

This is the Lord's climatic declaration of who he is!!

"His Commentary" "His claim "

This is the conclusion of what the scripture has already revealed by those who has eyes to see to those who has ears to hear.

Do you believe HIM?

Yes, John Chapter 14:26 with some surrounding read the Bible verses.

14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's that sent me.

14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your jeart ne troubled, neither let it be afraid.

14:28 Ye have heard now how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said , I go unto the Father for my Father is greater than I.

14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

John ch 14 v 26

Jesus said the Father would send the Holy Spirit to the disciples after He Jesus was departed .

Also Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit at his baptism by the father .

A few points to consider.

God is in full control over all !

Amen

I believe very similar like this:

"We believe that there is but one God, who is a Spirit, and the Creator of all things, the Father of all, over and through or in all, in us all; who is to ne worshiped in spirit and truth; to whom alone we look, as the Giver of life, raiment and food, as well as health and sickness, prosperity and adversity; Him we love as the author of all good, and fear Him as the discerner of our hearts.

We believe, that Jesus Christ is the Son and image of the Father, in whom dwells all the fullness of the Godhead; by whom we know as the Father; who is our Mediator and Advocate; and there is no other name under heaven given unto men, whereby we may be saved. In His name alone we worship the Father, and pour out no prayers before God, save those contained in the Holy Scriptures, or which fully agree with the sense of the same.

We believe, that we have a Comforter, the Holy Ghost, who proceeds from the Father and the Son; by whose inspirations we pray, and through whose effectual operation we are regenerated. This Holy Ghost operates in us all good works, and by Him we are led into all truth."

Confession 1-3 of the Waldenses and Albigenses

Martyrs Mirror Page 285

Thieleman J. van Braght English Edition

What does it mean about the branches and the vines

Thank you Joe.

Carlos - very well said. I definitely share your belief.

Reply to Bob Hilt re: is Jesus our brother

Our Lord said Son , behold thy mother. Mother behold thy son.

As the male benefactor , Our Lord honoured His mother by leaving her with another male benefactor, for He knew He was to be crucified.

If He did not do this, He would have broken the law

He is white as snow , pure and undefiled , above all things

our Lord said, Those that do the will of my Father, they are my brothers

It was a Sabbath being Passover celebration. I heard it explained as a double Sabbath being Passover falling into a weekend.

Exodus 12:1-17

Mathew 26:2

Mark 14:1

Luke 22:1

Hope that helps.

I thought Jesus died on Good Friday, but this is Saturday????

Good Friday Jesus died for us and Easter Sunday he arose... right????

or is this wrong.

Sabbaths is on Saturday... ?

Mark Matthews,

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The Hebrew calendar used at the time of Jesus counted a full day from sunset to sunset, not midnight to midnight.

The Hebrew 24 hour period of time is broken up into two 12 hour segments. The first segment is from 6 pm until 6 am. The second segment is from 6 am until 6 pm.

6pm - 6am = 1st set of 12 hours- "third hour of the night" Acts 23:23 (9 pm)

6am - 6pm = 2nd set of 12 hours- "third hour of the day" Acts 2:15 (9 am)

The "third hour" of the day in Mark 15:25 when Christ was crucified is 9 am

The "ninth hour" when He gave up the ghost is 3 pm.

Look at Sixth hour, Ninth hour, eleventh hour, Matthew 20:5

Mark Matthews, Day Christ Died.

Right on! Just as Johah said; "Three days AND three nights" Jonah 1:17.

Jesus died on what we call Wednesday just before sundown.

Wednesday sundown to Thursday sundown = 1 day (first night and day in the tomb)

Thursday sundown to Friday sundown = 1 day (second night and day in the tomb)

Friday sundown to Saturday sundown = 1 day (third night and day in the tomb)

Mary came to the sepulchre at daybreak Sunday.

Look at Matthew 12:40.

Jesus rose at some time between Saturday sundown and Sunday morning.

The "high day" of John 19:31 was the first day of the feast (Passover), and is considered a high holy Sabbath day.

The first day of the Feast was a Thursday (15th day of Nisan- April 3/4). The 15th day of Nisan commenced at sunset on what we would still call the 14th.

Jesus was crucified on the 14th, the "preparation day" ( John 19:31), and by law the crucified bodies should not remain on the cross on a Sabbath day. Jesus was put in the tomb before sunset on Wednesday the 14th.

The "first day of the week" ( Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:1-2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1-), the day of the Resurrection, was from our Saturday sunset to Sunday sunset.

Jesus was to be the Lamb slain, and His crucifixion took place on the "preparation day" ( John 19:14) when all lambs were slaughtered for the great Passover Feast the NEXT day.

The Last Supper DID NOT take place on the day of Passover, look at Matthew 27:62, Mark 15:42, Luke 23:54, John 19:14, John 19:31-42.

The "third day" of Matthew 16:21 is not the third day of the great Feast, but the third day of our Lord and Savior being in the tomb.

GOD is talking in Matthew 12:39-40 read it please. Jonah 1:17 read it please?There is no way any one could claim he was in the Grave on Friday?72 hours is still 72 hours!GOD said Himself to everyone in the Belly of the Earth 3 days and 3 Nights.Okay GOD Can't lie ever.Or the Cross is worthless for us.Plus Mary came at 5-6 Am on Sunday to Grave and GOD is Risen.Okay great.It is proven already true.So go back 72 Hours?What day is it?6-9 at night.Then 72 hours to Sunday say 1 minute into it.Say 4:39 4:49 Am.Go back 72 hours?Okay what day is it?It sure isn't Friday.Remember GOD can't Lie! Matthew 12:39,40 GOD talking! Do you believe GOD or Man???Wednesday Night 6-9 Pm.Plus Remember there was Two Sabbaths that week of the Cross.Apparently forgot to look it up and Study the truth?The Truth will set us all Free! Who is Truth? GOD= Lord Jesus Christ!