John Chapter 3 Discussion Page 13

Steve has it right on the money,bless you my friend.

its salvation and believing in JESUS CHRIST the SON OF GOD and BORN AGAIN OF THE SPIRIT and its so radical and life changing and wonderful that it can be wrought only by the LOVE AND POWER of GOD HIMSELF

I believe and it is written that once you confess your sins to Jesus and invite him your heart your name is written in the Book Of Life. The baptism is an act of obedience to Jesus. So your locked into Heaven by his Incredible grace and Love which is unbelievable to some.

Hope that helped and God Bless!

Kevin; The message from John chapter 3 is about Jesus coming into the world to save us, not to condemn! Unbelief is the condemnation! Believing in Jesus, we repent of our sins and turn away from the world to walk with God. Baptism is important, because it is a ceremony symbolizing our washing and renewal through the death, burial and resurrection of Christ: that we are "immersed" into Christ!

You are saved by faith through grace by Christ alone, baptism is a outward sign that you are a believer. Abraham was saved by faith alone.

This Scripture wasn't in reference to Christians. Christians are told to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ given through the Apostle Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:3

Am I to understand that even if I truly believe Jesus died for my sins(which I do) that I will not go to Heaven unless I'm baptized?

That's Right.

SUE; acts 2:38 tells u how to have your sins 4given,,Gal.3:27 tells u how 2 put on Christ.. 1 Pet 3:21-22 TELLS U WHAT BAPTISM DOES...

disciple ..look at act 2...when the question was asked WHAT MUST I DO, what was the answer...do what was told the people...

Disciple the mystery of the kingdom of God is Christ in you thus our new inner man is the H.G He says i will baptise you with the H.G and fire. When he breathed on them they received tHE H./G. simply b/c his breath was his word.his seed. the H.G. is the multiplication of christ in us via his seed. THATS Y HE REFERS TO HE H.G AS THE PROMISE.THAT PROMISE BEING THE VERY MULTIPILCATION OF CHRIST IN US

The Holy Ghost is not the new inner man, but the Spirit of God given into our hearts for OUR new life in Christ. We are the heirs of Salvation; and the outward vessels appointed by God to confirm His testimony of Christ, and the Spirit's striving with men to convict them of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment. Some friendly advice:) 'spiritualising' Scriptures as a methodology is not spiritual!

There was none righteous no not ONE, we all carry the stain and the spot of Adam, THUS MANKIND NEEDS TO BE BORNAGAIN OF AN INCORRUPTIBLE SEED,even by the words of GOD, We must birth a new innerman which is the H.G. Thats y jesus refers to the H.G as the PROMISE he is the multiplication of Christ via his seed the word planted in our hearts I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven, TH PROMISE

The devils believe and tremble I believed in God and feared him when I was lost the difference is no heart felt conviction. No REPENTANCE THE MOST HATED MISUNDERSTOOD WORD IN THE WHOLE KJV

Sue; When God commands all men everywhere to repent and believe the Glad Tidings of our salvation through His Son Jesus Christ; the expectation in the command is to acknowledge the truth unto conversion and reconciliation. Jesus said, "Now are you CLEAN through the word that I have spoken unto you." If you have repented and are sincere, you are washed and clean and given a new life freed from sin!

A person can b corrupt an sin but believe the word with all their heart. Are they still born of the spirit? As no one but Jesus was without sin

Alex; While we're using the simile of planting seed, in the parable of the sower the different kinds of hearts were the responsibility of the men who had them; for this is the teaching. A heart trampled down hard by sin and the world, an unprepared heart, a wrongly planted seed among the cares and pleasures of this world, and an honest and good heart: all these have their effect on what we become.

Disciple ty for reading me..27 times in the O.T. the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains, simply b/c of the bridegroom and his seed which is the WORD,he does not refer to himself as the bridegoom for nothin, he has a seed to sow in humanity, which is the world,he says the field is the world where that good seed will be sown n our hearts , THATS Y HE HAS TO KNOW US

Alex; What does it mean that Christ shall be born in you? There is no place where the LORD or the Prophets ever use words like, "Impregnate the world." The Lord Jesus Christ came not to "spiritually" breed with the world, but to call His Elect OUT OF THE WORLD! Being "Born from above" is as when the Spirit and the power of God overshadowed the Lord's mother, when we receive the Word in our heart.

Just as adam multiplied himself with his corruptible seed making humanity corruptible, Christ that 2 nd adam is gonna impregnate this whole world with his INCORRUPTIBLE SEED making humanity INCORRUPTIBLE,thats y we must be BORNAGAIN of INCORRUPTIBLE SEED WHICH ARE THE WORDS OF GOD,thats y the woman is giving birth in rev 12, we are that woman that is gonna birth christ, the field is the world, US

Being born again means we are gonna birth Christ in our lives/hearts, that's why the sower wants to sow his seed in our hearts,that it might initiate a birth of Christ in us, that's why he always refers to himself as the son of man,which is the very essence of the new covenant,when Jeremiah saw the new covenant he also saw all men giving birth,simply because that incorruptible seed is the very seed of Christ

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. When we are born on earth, the water breaks and we are born, but when we believe his Word with all our heart, we are born in the Holy Spirit of God. That means born again. Thank you Jesus for that free gift of life that is for ever .

VS 27 does this verse mean that whatever doors open or close it is the doing of GOD.

Ray; regarding the thing with Mr. Diffin; which you came in on after the fact; it is just like you quote here: he was calling into question "the whole Christian interpretation of the Scriptures" as if we were intentionally "twisting them" to make them to mean Jesus. The aprt where you came in was when I tried to show him, but he just wants to quarrel, and NOT BELIEVE. You can't "reason" with that!

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned and avoid them. Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. I know if I tell the truth about the Gospel, people might see the Light and believe. Share the Gospel....

"But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God." I know that there are some very stern-minded brothers and sisters, who are scared to death to admit that they still miss the mark. But we have to think like God thinks, and be honest first of all; or we'll never truly attain that victory we so strongly preach to others. ( Luke 18:9-14)

David; the Lord bless you, brother! I already guessed as much however :) and I hope you understand that the things I write are for your building up and encouragement! The Lord showed me right away when I was saved, that I need to first of all have a set time of seeking Him first every day in the Bible; and to write down what I was learning (or thought I saw) into a notebook, to REALLY LEARN IT!

Mr disciple: I'm sorry, I'm going to read All the past comments more carefully. I believe we are saved by Grace, If I didn't I wouldn't be Born Again. But what I was saying was that we as believers SADLY do sometimes fail. But Jesus Promises that He will never leave us nor forsake us. As you said Mr disciple He will never give up on weak believers. Even if we do backslide we are still saved.

Mr disciple: I totally agree we are saved by Grace. My testimony. I was a vile, unclean sinful person. But then I came to Christ repented from my sins and put my faith and trust in Christ. I believe that Jesus took my place on the Cross, suffered, bled and died for ME and rose the third day. I am now a new creature, saved by Grace and have NO disire to go back to my old life. I DO NOT look back.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, We are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. For Ever . AMEN