John Chapter 3 Discussion Page 27

Wow! I'm so greatful to hear this beautiful words from our lord jesus christ Wow! This is a most special gift from God wow! Glory be to God which strengthen me

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Verse 14, And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Verse 15, That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. The Son of man is not Jesus.
The Son of man is evil that is in heaven and will be cast down. The Son of man is compared to a serpent (and a thief in other scriptures). The Son of man will be "lifted up" having a religion that declares those that believe in his false religion will have eternal life. This is a lie.
Verse 16 assures Christians that God gave his only begotten Son, Jesus, for salvation into everlasting life.
Believe in Jesus, the Son of God not in the evil Son of man.

In responce to Tim Kelton's
Good summary of the words Shall and should but check out Romans 8:35-39 and then also Matthew 7:23. Jesus says here that on that day He will say to those on the left I NEVER KNEW YOU. This would indicate that you can't jump out of His arms. The person was never saved to start with. You see God is all knowing and He already knows what you will do with Him the rest of youre life and based on that he will or will not save you. God will not waist His Sons blood on some one for a few years and then that person turn his back on him again. God looks on the heart.

Jesus is offered to each one of us- NOT to make us feel bad that we are sinners. BUT to give HOPE that WE can be MADE new “Relieved of the burden of sin done to US” and of the sins we have harmed others with by our OWN wrong choices. THIS IS my verse for introducing others to Jesus, then John 3:16.

When you are saved, you are placed in the hand of God sealed by the holy spirit and kept by his mighty power, and nothing can separate you from the Love Of God. Read Romans 8:35-39.

@Victor,
To answer your question. The 1611 KJV says "should not perish", to inject the word "shall" changes the meaning and implies that I can believe in Jesus and him crucified, live like I want to, and still make it to heaven. Other versions than King James Version bible were written to create false loop holes in the spiritual world. Jesus says, "No Man can pluck from his hand", correct? But what's to keep you from jumping yourself out of the hand of Jesus? Thus the word, "should" is correct. I "should" not perish, but I "might" if I don't live as Jesus tells me to. Free will is still our choice to serve or not to serve. Food for thought: On the day of judgment, there will be some who have known Jesus and have done many wonderful works in His name, but yet He will tell them I know ye not, ye worker of evil. "Should" is the correct word! Jesus would have to allow them into heaven if the word was "Shall". Thanks for asking this great question, Victor. God Bless you!

This verse reminds me of a friend who does not believe in Christ, no matter how hard I pray for him, no matter how hard I preach him.

I am so glad I found this website. I thank Jesus for giving His life for me, and he did it willingly. That is true love.

Jesus is the Son of God, the alpha and the omega. The Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. God in eternity past, knew that Adam would sin, so he sent his one, and only Son to atone for the sin of all mankind. So Jesus had to become a man, so that he could die as a propitiation for man. When we accept this by faith, we are given eternal life, and we will not perish.

Is it "SHALL NOT PERISH" or "SHOULD NOT PERISH" in John 3:16 and what is the difference between them, and what does "should not" imply.

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John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Based on the research I have done, born of water means Jesus, He is the living waters. Of the Spirit is when you come to believe have the faith, the trust and accept, that Jesus is truly the Son of God, who came down from heaven, from the Father, to pay for our sins, who suffered, was crucified, died, and on the third day was risen back to life. Jesus is the only way to eternal life, that He is the bread of life, and the Savior of the world. When you come to this stage, the Holy Spirit comes to live in you and your heart becomes circumcised and all you pretty much want to do is to please and obey God, and your resistance to sin is stronger. Mind you need to keep eating the bread of life which again is Jesus. In order to stay healthy and alive, you need water to wash with, and you also need water to drink and food to eat. To gain eternal life it is the same thing, but it is not water and food from this world, it is Jesus. You are baptized through Jesus, the living water, and you need to get the bread of life, again Jesus.

Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. It rains on the just and the unjust. One is not a child of GOD until after faith has been placed in Christ being the only begotten Son of God. The wind listeth, meaning its movement. This moving of the Spirit is not under order or control of men. The Spirit moves as the wind effects objects for God's intended purpose, but men have a will to either yield to that purpose or withstand it. Men hear the sound of the wind as it bristles through the trees. Just as men are trees and the Spirit of God working in men's lives we see and hear the results yet not knowing the when and where the Spirit is going to move upon a person. We don't see the wind working but only by the results of it blowing. Jesus told us his words are spirit. This idea correlates to the effects of the wind. It is His words which affected the hearts of men. Either in receiving His words or those same words rejected infuriated those religious leaders. His words always stirring the soul and directing towards belief, just as the wind blows in many directions, yet when the Spirit moves it is in a specific direction with purpose. Jesus spoke to a people familiar with sailing. A variable wind isn't reliable and indicates a storm approaching. Storms in life often bring confusion and contrary winds of adversity, yet again when the Spirit moves it is intended to fill the sails allowing the ship to move in the right direction and reach the intended shore making it to the other side. The Spirit does not always move pleasantly, and Satan's imitation of the Spirit brings adversity in the midst of storms, yet we by faith can see that the stormy winds are either for our chastisement or God proving us and to us He has control and turns that evil purpose of Satan's adverse winds into good. We have Eurocledon, truly a wind meant to destroy ships and drown sailors in the sea, but we see direction and purpose turn that wind into good for Paul and all aboard. We see Jesus walking on the water rebuking the winds of adversity and bringing calm in our lives as children of God. Hurricane Sandy brought great destruction to the North East of United States. I would have to say this example is one where mankind will come together to help each other and rebuild and repair the damage caused by Sandy. People will have work where they had no work. Great stories of survival and rescue will be told. Those who give God the deserved glory will have effect on the hearers to either place faith in God or in humanity; one receiving God, the other receiving humanity and missing the purpose of God. John 3:8 is Jesus giving analogy comparing the wind and The Holy Ghost. We only skim the surface of all the meaning found in the word of God as found in the King James Bible. Some would dare to limit and make lifeless God's word and thus provide a private interpretation. The word of God is to excite the mind, cause deep reflection into its meaning and affect our hearts to bring us into the will of God beginning first at salvation. The word of God is alive and not trapped in the confines of intellectualism and dogmatic interpretations, but will always be found in perfect harmony just as it is found right in the King James Bible. It brings life to the hearers and refreshing just as the wind can and does.

@Peter,
That is sense based reasoning, with unperfected mind.
In the eyes of God there is no boredom.
God bless you.

Everlasting life sounds good at first, but don't you think you'd get bored after 15 million years or so ?

Many people thought that Born Again is another kind of belief and/or religion, Sect, this words should be clarified to those non believer.

This is the meaning of love.

This Chapter shows that God the Almighty has mankind in mind always. It also shows that there is hope for mankind and that God the Creator has not abandoned human race. The chapter also shows how God our Heavenly Father place value on human race by sending His only begotten son to come and die for us, so that we can be reconciled to Him in fellowship and live eternally.

I like this verse because Jesus died for me, and not only that he gave me hope when he was raised from the dead which none else ever did, he also gave me salvation.

JOHN 3:16 is the HEART of the WORD of GOD. Once SAVED, Always Saved! Salvation is a gift from God NOT A REWARD ...By grace are ye saved

I love this chapter because I beleieve in Jesus. John 3:16 love this verse 16

I'm very happy about this verse because it says who ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Thank you lord for this everlasting life and making us to become sons and daughters of God.

i am not worthy for his love but then again he send Christ jesus our Lord and i will remember it until our Lord get mY life amen i lOve you Lord

for God "SO" loved the world. That is, Iam part of the world who even believed in him an added advantage. THIS IS THE BEST INTERESTING VERSE IN THE BIBLE

i believe in john 3:16 1000 per cent

Yes, but who decides to change the bible, if it is the word of god, why are they still changing it to suite their needs?

I have not and never will be able to see a love so great for sinners such as us

Jesus shed his blood on the cross so that we may be reconciled to God. To be born again the bible tells us we must first believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that he died for the sins of the world and rose again on the third day. If you believe this then ask Jesus to forgive you of all of your sins an he will come in to your heart and make you a new creature in Christ. After you accept Jesus, you need to be baptized and you will know without a doubt you have been born again.

So the fact that Jesus is commanding (well ok u dont think that)but is telling a grown man that if he was not born again he could not see the kingdom of heaven and then went on to command, I mean, tell him, except he is born of the water and spirit that he cannot enter the kingdom, call it what u may, it was indeed a commandment meant for the 1st century church, and the end time church today! Then it picks up again in Acts where the very word command is used multible times check it for yourself.. sir, Jesus said if U love me obey my commandments So if u love him obey his commandments. The born again message that was bourne out of this chapter entwined its way into the message of Pentecost when Peter COMMANDED a multitude of 3000 on that 1st day; to repent and be baptised every one of you name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and the promise of the Holy Ghost. Well anyway I think Jesus was commanding it. Just a little insight

I have to say this verse never made much sense to me until I read peoples bible notes above and now it goes with the rest of the chapter. No one sees the wind but the evidence of it leaves blowing, a flag waving etc. Believing in Christ is not what causes the wind to blow or the spirit to move but the opposite. The spirit moves on or in the elected child of God then faith appears.