John Chapter 4 Discussion Page 6

As she ran to the village to let people about a man who told her the things she had ever done, I hope she might have started with the man who she was harbouring in her house.

The important lesson here is that we must believe for the living water or the meat we have not killed to feed us. Now the reference to the harvest has to do with separating the believer from the unbeliever. Both receive the words but some believe and some do not. Just like my words at this time separates the lots. This water and this meat can only satisfy the true believer. Not only does it satisfy the believer but then others who hear this report are also separated from unbelievers. The truth is for everyone but it only satisfies the believer. The spirit is the force that promotes truth and demotes religious lies.

When The woman believed in who He was, she left her waterpots (old way of life) and went to tell
others about Him.New life, New testimony, New mission.

Jesus did not baptize with water because He came to baptize men by the Holy Spirit. He did this after His resurrection, see John 20:21-22. He told Nicodemus, "you must be born again,(endwelled) and He made it possible through the cross.

Complete the introit GOD is a spirit

I just read John Chapter4 because I spend alot of time alone and needed to be reminded that there have been times when Jesus would go out of his way to refresh my faith. I believe that the well represents that need and when we are thirsty. I agree with what Ricky says.Jesus' will is to do the will of his father.The woman at the well was a reject among rejects because of her sinful lifestyle but God loves us in our inperfections and we need to know that and to be reminded of that.Jesus was going to Galilee but God send him through Symaria. Just like Ricky says there is a village,town or place where someone like me is being rejected.For a king to meet someone like us rejects is awesome!

In every Country there is a city, in every city there is a village, in every village there is a man, woman, boy or girl who needs to be set free from sin, every evangelist knows you cant byp*** an opportunity to share Gods love

When Jesus asked the woman at the well for a drink, He was telling her she needed to drink from the well of living water. The woman had been married five times, and the man she was with was not her husband. Jesus knew she needed to be saved, and that is why He told his disciples my meat is to do the will of God: which is to seek and to save the lost. The woman believed, and received Jesus as her personal Savior. Salvation is of the Jews, and Jesus is the Messiah. The fields are white, and the harvest is ready. Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel, for the hour has come for the true worshipers of God to worship Him in spirit, and in truth. The nobleman believe Jesus, and his son was healed. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shall be saved, and thine household.

Without a shadow of doubt,GOD is a Spirit;but He is so much more.We then who are born of His spirit must "learn" to worship in spirit and in truth,it's not automatic as many would proclaim to believe.The apostle Paul in phil.4:11...says "...for I have "learned" in whatever state I am to be content: whoever then does not is only fooling themselves. True worship is "learned" through the Word of GOD (JESUS)and by the leading of the HOLY SPIRIT. As we submit to this truth we then become vessels fit for the Master's use as we walk by faith and not by sight.

How does this Samaritan woman who admits of no dealing between her people and Jewish (sic Judean) people know and believe the Jewish expectation about the coming of messiah and his powers?

I think it's more a case of a Samaritan Jewess knowing the expectations all too well but that the author forgets that she isn't supposed to know about this particular Messiah (Jesus) yet because the mission has barely got started!

I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Christians would understand this to mean 'Christ the Messiah' and therein lies the mistake, whereas in fact it is an innocent if redundant tautology; 'Messiah(Greek) the Messiah(Hebrew) which doesn't need to be spoken at all if the woman only knows of the expectation. If on the other hand she had in fact got wind of the claim earlier than most she would more likely have spoken of 'the Nazerene Messiah'.

In john 4 verse 24,no one can worship God well carnally but rather in spirit and in truth.if you are living in fornication,adultery,lies, murder and all sorts of corruption you cannot serve God well.

It is interesting that the Samaritan woman who admits of no dealing between her people and Jewish people knows and believes the Jewish expectation about the coming of messiah and his powers.

@Frenz,
On how to get saved:
1. You make a statement that a person must accept Jesus Christ in baptism to be saved in order to go to heaven;
2. If this is a reference that water baptism is part of a person’s being born again then I must state that the scriptures do not support this belief;
3. In the church age (age of grace), water baptism is never connected to salvation;
4. The apostle Paul (apostle to gentiles) says in 1 Corinthians 1:17 that Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect;
5. So you can determine that water baptism is not part of the gospel message which is the death, burial, and resurrection ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4), Jesus baptized no one ( John 4:2);
6. When a person accepts Jesus Christ as his/her saviour, at that moment they are baptized (filled) in with the holy spirit (ghost);
7. The word baptism means to be immerse (not sprinkled or water poured over the head) and is called believer’s baptism, because it represents the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ ( Romans 6:1-6), which is what happens to a person spiritually at the time we receive Jesus Christ as our savior;
8. Born again believers get baptized because they are saved, not to get saved;
9. Christians are baptized in water as act of public display of their faith they received from him ( Hebrews 12:2),and they are making an open commitment to serve and obey Jesus according to the scriptures.

The woman had committed fornication with 5 people and therefore spiritually she was married to them without the woman having got married to the men in the court of Law or traditionally. Due to her fornication, she was not paired with the rightful man God had prepared for her. She had committed fornication with the man with whom she was staying with, that’s why she said she did not have a husband but Jesus mentioned that she should go and fetch the her husband whom she stayed with.

I would like to focus on verses 23 and 24; Saying But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Precisely God is looking for a true worshipper in this scenario, who will worship him in Spirit and Truth. So many people believed and worship God, Praising God but they don't know if whom they are worshipping. Here God stated that we must have the qualifications that God wants to see. Verse 24; God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. It is true that God is Spirit that is a fact 1+1=11. Being Spirit, He doesn't have a body, doesn't have a blood, a bone, even flesh meaning God is invisible, we cannot see him but we can feel him. Being He is the TRUTH this is the power of God to forgive on our sins, to save us from our sins without accepting the process of God for salvation then we cannot enter into the Kingdom of God which John 3:5 stated. Unless a man is born of water & of Spirit he cannot enter into God's Kingdom. Because our destiny actually is for damnation in hell, once you died you are already judged ( Hebrews 9:27). And there is NO MORE HOPE for salvation to our SOUL, because we are all BORN SINNERS according to ( Psalms 55:1, Romans 3: 10,23) and the wages of sins is death. We will all die in flesh and some of will all die Spiritually in hell if they don’t repent. The only remedy is to accept Jesus Christ in Baptism bacause this is His command before ascending in heaven that he commanded his disciples to baptize all nation in his name ( Acts 2:38-39). That is the reason that God seeketh a TRUE WORSHIPPER WHO WILL WORSHIP HIM WITHOUT SEEING ANYTHING because God is Spirit. God bless you all. Jesus loves us!

1. The woman came into contact with the seventh man! Her life became complete because she had met a man of completeness. All other men who met this woman could not quench her thirst;
2. The word of God whenever it is preached, must tell us what we are for real. We repent because we have been told what we are. We tell other people about the Jesus who tells us who we are. If the word does not awaken within us that, then it goes without doing anything... God help us!

I love this Bible.

John teaches me that Jesus and his Father are one in the same. I had a tendency to separate the Two and John has given me clarity on this.

It means that the disciples was so caught up in bodily food they could not understand spiritually. They were carnal (understanding more fleshly than spiritual)

that is,end of all things is now

It is amazing the way God thinks or view things, his thoughts are certainly higher than ours and his ways are different. In the end it proves all of us want to feel a sense of belonging and to know that somebody loves us. Jesus is our greatest example; if we follow him we are set.

I just love the Lord.Though he is a GOD of wrath he is a GOD of LOVE,PATIENCE,LONGSUFFERING,TENDER MERCIES,N SALVATION though we make it hard for ourselves through disobedience n have to suffer hard tribulations,we know that God loves us because he first showed us his love by what he has done for us through his SON JESUS CHRIST.GOD loves us so much that he suffered his own son for us,sinners like u n me.What a love that is in GOD for us?!!!How can we ever repay him?In all that he did he only ask us to worship n obey him.Dont u think that is our reasonable service to him?"HELP US LORD!!!"

thirst that was satified with believe, not for now; but forever.

i believe it means that worship is a STATE OF BEING and not a boring physical ceremony which is performed every once in a while (Saturday?, Sunday?)inside a building (church, TEMPLE, TABERNACLE, WHAT HAVE YOU). Worship means submission and you get into that mode once you submit your all to the Lord Jesus Christ. Worship starts at salvation and is supposed to be eternal. You miss the point entirely if you think you're going to church to worship. God does not live there any more! He has transferred residence. He now lives in you. You don't go to church to worship. you go to church because you already are in a worship mood. No need to get your emotions up with special numbers and other ceremonial things done in the temple. Ever notice that there is no command in the new testament that enjoins the christian to worship? Only the devil was told "thou shalt worship the Lord they God". it would be redundant for the writers to be telling the christian to do something they are already immersed in. we come to church for a different purpose, and that is, " not to forget the assembling of ourselves together" so we can take care of one another's burdens, physical or spiritual

Jacob's well! (and living in Connecticut, nô doubt). The woman is reminding Jesus who she thinks is Jewish, that Samaria is the original Holy land where dwelt the patriarch,
And that the tribe occupying Jerusalem have hijacked the Pentateuch for political and expansionist purposes - aided by the Romans of course. Things haven't changed much over the centuries have they? But perhaps we need "Jacob's Ladder" to show us the reality behind this story

42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard [him] ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, " the Saviour " of the world.

Isaiah 42:5 - 5 Thus saith God the LORD, ,....
42:6 - I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, ....
42:8 - " I [am] " the LORD: that [is] my name: and ....
42:13 - 13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: ....
43:3 - 3 For " I [am] " the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour:....
43:11 - 11 I, [even] " I, [am] " the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.
43:12 - 12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when [there was] no strange [god] among you: therefore ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, that " I [am] " God.

Isaiah 43:14 - Thus saith the LORD, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; ....
Isaiah 43:15 - " I [am] " the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.

John 13:19 - 19 Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that " I am " [he].

John 4:25 - The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

John 4:26 - 26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee " am [he] ".

Isaiah 43:11 - 11 I, [even] " I, [am] " the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.

Isaiah 43:19 - 19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, [and] rivers in the desert.

John 4:22 - Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

John 4:29 - Come, see a man, which told me all things that ever I did: is not this the Christ?

Isaiah 43:15,
" I am " the LORD, your Holy One, The Creator of Israel, your King.

Exodus 3:14-15 - And Moses said unto God, Behold, [when] I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What [is] his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, "I AM " THAT " I AM ": and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, " I AM " hath sent me unto you.

John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, " I am ".


Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways, says the LORD.
9 As high as the heavens are above the earth, so high are my ways above your ways and my thoughts above your thoughts.

2 Corinthians 3:14-16, 18
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which [vail] is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, [even] as by the Spirit of the Lord.

The Old and New Testament BOTH speak the truth that THE LORD, GOD is alive.
There is ONLY ONE GOD. There is only ONE Saviour.

Isaiah 43:11 - 11 I, [even] " I, [am] " the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.


In Christ Jesus, our LORD, our GOD, and Saviour, AMEN

This is most likely my favorite scripture. Having gone through a divorce myself, this scripture proves that a divorced man,(woman) can serve God. The disciples had been with Jesus, what?, two months, one year, two years or maybe even three, regardless they went into town and brought back food. The Samaritan spent ten minutes (?) with Jesus, went into town, overflowed the living water and came back with, not food, but people hungry for a drink from the living well - Jesus Christ.

Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again.

This is a great verse!!!!!

I have read this book countless times, but reading chapter 4 again the HOLY SPIRIT has revealed so much incites and interpretation that it's like I have just read it for the first time. AMAZING!!!!!!!