John Chapter 7 Discussion Page 2

Hello Diana,

Feeling to give an answer to your question. I cannot say it is 100% of what you are seeking as others here may be able to expand on this with other Scriptures.

The Scripture that came to mind that hopefully will give you a little rest to that question is ( 1 Peter 4.

God Bless.

why do we go through advirsty

The best reason to worship on Sunday is to celebrate Jesus rising from the dead on the first day of the week ( Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, John 20).

It is not a requirement to honor a particular time of worship because Jesus said, "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." ( Matthew 18:20).

Colossians 2:16-17, indeed the whole chapter, show us that these things pertaining to what is lawful are but a shadow of things to come, Jesus Christ being preeminent.

Galatians 5 declares our liberty in Christ, for if we are justified by law we are fallen from grace. Ironically, the Pharisees worked so hard to maintain the Sabbath that it became oppressive. Many still work to establish their own righteousness, not submitting to the righteousness of God (only found in Christ Jesus) Romans 10.

Hebrews 4 is an excellent lesson on rest for today.

Victoria,

Concerning the 7th day of the week and the 1st day of the week

The Hebrew definition of the word "week," or "weeks," simply means "sevened."

The Greek definition of the word "week" is defined as "Sabbath," i.e. the 7th day (of a seven day period); the day of rest.

The 7th day was established for ALL of mankind back on the 7th Day of Creation ( Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 34:21, etc. etc.) and was never abolished.

( Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week.

This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishing of it. It was made to last forever. This is a day that God BLESSED and SANCTIFIED! Christ always honored the Sabbath. The Apostles kept the Sabbath; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

Many use the "first day of the week" spoken of in Acts 20:7, to change the Law of God, but this verse concerns the first Sabbath in reckoning the seven Sabbaths until Pentecost. (i.e. the first day of the Sabbath. Week = Sabbath.

In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH.

Christ never abolished the Sabbath; neither did Paul.

God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed, He would have made it abundantly clear.

Have you considered looking at the Dead Sea Scrolls?

The Book of Enoch, in particular, reveals a 364 day solar priestly calendar.

52 (weeks) x 7 = 364

Look at the first book of Enoch; specifically, ch. 72, and ch. 82 (column 27) are words concerning the ancient solar calendar.

OUESTION:

Why do we Christians worship on Sundays instead of Saturdays. Please this a question I faced while on a evangelism. Thank you for quick response.

The H.G.was not yet given simply b/c Christ was not yet GLORIFIED ( MULTIPLIED )which means when he goes forth to sow his seed the word HIS seed initiating multiplication in humanity our new birth is multiplcation in the spiritual realm thats y he refers to himself as th son of man thats what happened at Pentecost he WAS Glorified but they ran outa of that wine we have had no wine for 2 days 2k yrs.But the Father said i have glorified it and will glorify it AGAIN an intermission of 2 k yrs.But the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains AGAIN My lil children of whom i travail Again.4 Times in JOHN 6 He said i will raise them up Again last day thus GLORIFICATION AGAIN THE LAST DAY.

Those who worship God... John 4:24 God revealed his name to Moses and said that his name would be a memorial to all generations. His name is Yahweh meaning I AM God Almighty His messianic name His sons name is Yahoshua meaning I AM Salvation Man has removed God's name from the scriptures over 7000 times. Yahoshua I AM Salvation Acts 4:12 Yahoshua to the Samaritan Woman John 4:22

Cont'd: Upon the outpouring of the Holy Ghost, Peter whom Jesus had given the keys to the kingdom stood up and did as Jesus said, he 'loosed' the new baptism in Jesus Name and thereafter throughout the remainder of the bible ALL were baptized that way and those who 'knew only John's baptism' were baptized again in Jesus name.

John 7: 39 is why John the Baptist baptizer did not baptize in Jesus name. He baptized in the 'titles' because Jesus Christ had not yet been glorified. After the death and resurrection and Jesus ascending to HIS throne the told the faithful who BELIEVED to go to the upper room and await the Comforter The Holy Ghost which he would send. Cont'd in next submission......

Enjoy reading the chapter.

37 ... Jesus stood and cried, saying, If 'any man thirst', let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Jesus' task was an uphill climb! And even after irrefutable proof did they doubt, even to this day. Today, Christians give lip service to him but follow thoroughly ungodly men for expediency, who are thoroughly ungodly themselves. They claim to love but they only fawn after the false prophet. Not naming names but the hypocrisy here in America is ripe and they(christians)carry on in lock step.oi

John 7 is an awesome chapter, just like the God who gave it.

Enter Ye in at The Strait Gate: for Wide is The Gate and Broad is The Way that Leadeth to Destruction and Many there be Which go in thereat: Matthew 7:13. Because Strait is The Gate and Narrow is The Way which Leadeth unto Life and Few there be that Find it. Matthew 7:14 / All have a Choice.

Verse 46-49
Those whom the message of truth is spoken seldom ask, "Is it true?" but, "By whom is it advocated?" Multitudes estimate it by the numbers who accept it; and the question is still asked, "have any of the learned men or religious leaders believed?" Men are no more favorable to real godliness now than in the days of Christ. They are just as intently seeking earthly good...{EGW DA 459,460}

Verse 24~Jesus knew the imperfect human tendency we have to judge by what appears to the eyes and he tells us to stop doing that. We must have all the facts and judge with righteousness.

Jesus Himself was God manifest in the flesh, stood that day in the midst of those that were there including His earthly family and they rejected Him ( God in the flesh). Jesus cried out to all even those that did not believe Him," If any man thirst let him come unto Me and drink, and they refuse even as today me refuse the invitation to eternal life. Come to Him today and never thirst again.

Verse 46~Jesus taught with divine authority and he taught in a way that drew attention to God's Word and did not rely on any man made traditions.

"Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught." God manifest in the flesh came among His people to fulfill His own word and bring the Glad Tidings of Salvation and Eternal Life. In so doing He also kept the hearts' desires and prayers of His servants David and Solomon, for which the Temple was at all built: a place of prayer and teaching of the things of God.

You shall seek and not find me, there you cannot be, for what we are content with are idols and not the demand that the laws of God impart to us. It means that we must repent and transform ourselves into what pleases God. Jesus was a teacher of the Torah! All 4 gospels show Jesus in the temple daily preaching from the Word. In the bible is where we find the Word of God, and Jesus taught thense

Verse 16: Jesus was the wisest man who ever lived. He gave all the credit for the wise words he spoke to his heavenly Father, Jehovah God.

3 I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. 13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:

V24 proves physical cutting means nothing. Jesus does not cut flesh and does not teach it.
Paul however continues to circumcise to establish the adherence to Jewish law as the example of the Jewish woman that had a son with a Greek man. Paul does not follow the example of behavior that Jesus established. Paul is a Jew first, Christian second. Acts 16:3

If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. Yes, Lord, I thirst of you daily. Give me to drink from the spring of living waters.

"After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him." The hostile and hateful who oppose and contradict Jesus and any and all who love Jesus; would love it to be fighting and quarreling with us all the time, and wasting our time! But we have to know when its time to let men have their own ways, and leave them alone.

Probably, if they were practicing Jews and did it 8 days after birth according to laws.

Oops, typo. my post on John 7 page, is for 1 Corinthians 7:18-20,24.

Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb." He that made the Covenant of Circumcision with Abraham, was Himself circumcised; according to the Covenant, and the Law: a sign in His flesh for the Man of God walking after the Spirit. The man who was healed was a Jew.

Insight777John7:18-20,24.V.18"Is any man called being circumcised:let him not be uncircumcised. Is any called uncircumcised:let him not be circumcised."We are told not to change this when God calls a man to himself.V.19"Circumcised is nothing,uncircumcised is nothing,but the keeping of the commandments of God."With this knowledge it tells me circumcised or not,not an issue to contend,or judge.

Jesus makes man whole, uncircumcised, on the sabbath. The Jews were cutting flesh for religious reasons and Jesus was not. There is no scripture that says Jesus was circumcised. Jesus is making the point that they follow the rituals of Moses but he does not. They follow the fathers of Moses not the Son of God therefore they have no salvation.