Jude Chapter 1 Discussion Page 4

Was Simon the brother of Jesus Christ that helped him carry the cross to his own crucifixion

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Read the whole book this is so prevalent today , Adultery in the church ! And guess who is responsible. These false teachers.

One who is a believer is born of the Spirit.

What does ordained to this condemnation mean

Job 38 tells us the Sons of God shouted for joy at the creation of the earth. Adam did not come until 6 days AFTER the creation of the earth. So Adam could not have shouted for Joy before he was in existence. So the Sons of God of Job 38 must be angels., unless Adam shouted for joy before he existed.

Believers do not become Sons of God till they are born of the Spirit in the New Testament. Adam was called a Son of God since he had no earthly mother and Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God. Angels are not THE SON OF GOD, they are Sons of God.

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

After all who was the FATHER of the Angels? think about it.

God tells us He never called an Angel His Son we are all Sons and Daughters equal in Christ Jesus and Adopted by God yes like The Godhead our roles are different but God has no favorites. Jude tells us the Angels sinned the same as those in Sodom and Gomorrah Verses 7-8. Deuteronomy tells us who Gods Sons were who had relations with these Woman. yes we need to read carefully Gods Truth in Scripture but not with Man or Woman's understanding but with Gods Wisdom.

Isaac - You want the book of Enoch edited by Charles as the other one is occultism in nature. That is the one most Christians show interest in. It can be found online and some booksellers have it.

The text of the Book of Genesis says Enoch lived 365 years before he was taken by God.

He was considered to be the author of the Book of Enoch and also called Enoch the scribe of judgment.

The New Testament has three references to Enoch from the lineage of Seth ( Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5, Jude 1:14-15).

The Book of Enoch is considered to be a historical book and was not canonized into the Bible.

Isaac, the book of Enoch is an Apocryphal book that is not found in the Canon of Scripture. It is one of the books that were considered of doubtful value/quality when the Scriptures were put together for the KJV. If you want to see those books, then just go down to the end of this Site's page & click on KJV Apocrypha.

So where the book of Enoch can be found?

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Genesis 6:1-4

The sons of GOD ARE INDEED Angels, this is referenced in Jude as well. So, 1st Enoch may be missing from our translations. GOD YHWH is the ONLY TRUE AND HOLY JUDGE.

Frederick, Jude here refers to a group of 200 angels who descended upon Mt. Hermon and took an oath between themselves, to defile humanity. Perhaps as part of Satan's attempt to foil GOD's plan of redemption.

They agreed to intermingle with women which resulted in the nephillim. This is what the spirit means when it refers to the "mighty men of old, men of reknown" mentioned in Genesis 6. The nephillim were 1/2 Man, 1/2 angel and were humongous and great in strength and became well known for their exploits. GOD put enmity between them and they set themselves against each other until they were all dead. All the greek "gods" and the titans were actually these nephillim.

When the fallen angels appealed to GOD for mercy HE sent Michael to place them in iron fetters and then placed them in Tartarus, the land of shadow, which we know also as the bottomless pit. They are there now awaiting judgment.

Jude here refers to them as examples of of the consequences of indulging the flesh and its lustful desires and willfully disobeying GOD.

All I can honestly say on this subject is that Angels did leave their first estate to mate with the daughters of men, the bible declares it and I believe it. The book of Enoch tells the story in detail.

That is why it is not His one and only son, It is then in fact His only begotten Son, in all creation!

Read Matthew 24 and look at all the earthquakes lately. Look into the Noahide laws that is on the books in America. They are not currently being enforced yet. Ask where the noahide laws are in the Bible. The laws given to Noah. They exist only in the minds of rabbis. look into the punishment for breaking the noahide laws and then read revelation 20:4
then ask that question again. People have been saying it is the end times for hundreds of years. however every day is a day closer.

Are we in the end times?

sons of God in the new testament after being born again they are to become.
Adam is also called a son of God
and the angels were the only sons of God in the old testament.
Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God.

Sons of God are as saints, made a little lower than the angels. The kingdom of heaven is not unlike the creation. Similar in that there are angels messengers of God for the benefit of man, and men who believe in the power of Christ are saints! Abiding in Christ is a gift according to his mercy He saved us. The water is washing of regeneration, Blood is the sanctification, the spirit is life. This is His creation, this is His will. Before the fall of man ,the creation was perfect. The creation of man and his faith in the gospel will be Satan's downfall. In the end the extension of his creation of heaven and earth will be found in the power of Christ. Everlasting life. All glory to God!

Jude writes so much in so few words. He brings a message of both hope and rebuke. As I read this letter I was impressed by the knowledge of the story of the Exodus his audience must have had. I am impressed that they were most certainly Jewish Christians. Today S I read this letter and apply it to my life I am impressed to listen to the warning about false teachers and their lust for earthly things and pleasures. Today's churches are full of these false teachers. But I am more inspired by the clear teaching of Jude that we are saved by the Father Preserved by Jesus Christ and have hope for the future. The judgement is God's not mine and God alone can judge others. Hold on to the Truth!

Yes Betty we do Study the Scriptures but not without seeking Jesus our Spiritual Teacher first who Leads us into Knowing all Truth..... Hebrews1:5 For unto which of the Angels said He at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten Thee? And again, I will be to Him a Father and He shall be to me a Son..... Hope this helps.

Betty, Angles didn't Marry earthly Woman Jude confirms why they are waiting punishment too. God has never called an Angel His Son and their DNA is not compatible with Humans. We need to not only ask for Gods Wisdom and Empowering by The Holy Spirit but believe we have received it too. Than Jesus our only Spiritual Teacher will lead us into all Truth with the Confirmation of Scripture or Creation.

ALSO GENESIS 6;7....... God had the flood to destroy the GIANTS....Notice Noahs flood

Some of you have not read Genesis 6:2 & 6:4 .the sons of God (Angels did marry the daughters of men, and id have children by them,they were giants
Study your Bible !

I after seeing the way Peter and Paul bound Matthew the strong man God spoke of entrusted by God with the largest section of the NewTestament, who said let no man be called master. Peter and Paul as Jude says snuck in, Paul a Pharasee killer of Christians Peter a denyer of Christ. They teamed up on Matthew not putting brothers into slavery to what they so sinfully called human masters, when you slave the least of the brothers you slave Jesus. He speaks of the pressure, but tried to warn of the traitors in his midst. Jesus Matthew and those who loved Jesus doctrine easily confirms their identity as Peter and Paul helping mortals profit by taking slaves unlike Moses who freed slaves

In Jude the warning is of the evil people in our trust whom have long posed as our protectors and teachers that have always made their ways go by as if innocent so long as death was preserved for witnessing victims... It is our Lord Jesus Christ who died our sins and not those led astray, tortured and killed in slavery thereafter. We Christian's must hold each others faith in The Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ within us!!! God will cast our stones so that might be all that those ungodly serpents see....

Hi John the Theologian Spurgon referred to Jesus as The Arch Angel Michael but we know this was wrong because God said when have I ever called my Son an Angel Heb1 and that they would bow down to Jesus who was as we know also called Emanuel meaning God with us and The Word and other Names which all have meanings and show His Divinity as One in Spirit with The Father and The Holy Ghost 1John5:7.

Stangett I read your Comment on the Verse of the Day but have not received it or can I find it on this Website do you work for them. Where in Genesis does it say what you claim but if your refering to the Apocrypha Jude V7 shows one of the reasons why it was not included in the Bible and it has other errors too God does not make Mistakes. Please read my other Comments about the Apocrypha - Annie.

Not sure Stanjett if you will receive my last Comment or if it's as I wrote it but you can be sure If God said it I Believe it and that Settles it. Please Read 1Cor15:38-58 Do you know you didn't come from Apes even if you do like Bananas. Blessings- Grannie Annie.

We know Stangett that God who Created all things Good tells us about DNA but this is a Modern name Angels DNA is differant from ours and Animals 1Cor15:38-40 this is why Evolution is also impossiable - Blessings Annie.

No one. We are God's DNA.