Luke Chapter 10 Discussion

Hello Giannis,

Thank you for this information. That is also my understanding. However, the intent of my post was not to show how the Hebrew people greet each other. What I was sharing had to do with the phrase, "Peace be to this house."

That phrase is an actual Hebraism that that a Hebrew person would have understood.

Hello Jesse

I think "shalom aleichem" (peace on you) or just "shalom" is how Jews greet one another when they meet, like "hello" in English.

Whats the understanding of what these verses mean!

Luke 10;5- And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.

6And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.KJ Bible.

Alex1939...Hiya Rose...He that will take away your goods is the H.G.. Luke 14:28...Remember Paul said i have suffered the loss of all things and count them but dung that i might win Christ and be found in him Phili 3:8...And Jesus said to count the cost its gonna cost ya everything...The early Church had to give everything away....Can you suffer the loss of all things ?...Count the cost, can you lose every thing in order to please him...If any man love wife or children more then me is not worthy of me...

......Peter asked what shall we there fore receive for we have left all to follow you...Jesus replied there is no man that has left all to follow me that shall not receive manifold more in this life and in the life to come ....Them that will follow me in the regeneration will sit on 12 thrones etc...Lemme go, too tired to continue...But Jesus did say to count the cost b/f you follow me.

Rose,

Luke 6:30 is part of a section ( Luke 6:27-38) that deals with the conduct of life, our attitude toward other people. There are 13 things that are mentioned in this section and Verse 30 is one of those things.

Here is what I see in Verse 30:

It says give to everyone that asks you, everyone! And of him that takes away thy goods do not ask them back again.



Now wait a minute! If you take my things, where does that leave me? I mean that makes me a little angry. Well, if they take away my things, what have I lost? My things!

It's interesting how the Lord helps us work things out when we accumulate too much of the world, and He allows the world to take it away through the various means. Please don't ask for it back. Don't fight for it. It was taken away for a reason!

My interpretation of this verse is as follows , if someone asks to borrow something from me , money , my lawn mower etc , I don't ask for them back . If that person gives me the thing back , of their own free will , that's great , but I don't ask for anything back . Most of the time those things are given back to me without me even having to think about it , it's only occasionally that I don't get things back . So , when I lend something to someone , I don't expect to get it back , it's gone forever as far as Im concerned .

Could someone please explain what the verse Luke 6:30 means?

Issachar Baker,

Are you sure you are not referring to Peter instead of Paul. This seems like the account given to us in Acts Chapter 12.

You know I have a Bible note for you Now roman do you know that Paul was a Roman he had a bad job if he saw people worshiping God....he would throw them into jail but now he has a new job given by god he would preach the gospel but he had some problems while he was preaching the gospel some people didn't like how pual was preaching the gospel so they throw him out of the city but he didn't stop he walked to the next city when he was preaching the gospel this time he was sent to prison but a angel of the LORD came to him and said put on your clothes and your sandals and follow me so that is what paul did so the gates were closed but they opened by itself so paul recognised that it was a vision so he went to Rhodo 's house and he knocked on the door she recognised that it was Paul so she went to Mary and said it is Paul so they opened the door and it was true so I'm just telling the story in a different way and that is the story of Paul.

Sad. Story from Jesus and all you worry about is the oil and wine. Sad.

Hi Tim In the context of Jesus Teaching first a priest then levite passed him on the other side no compassion or heart by their actions, then a samaritan not only cared for his wounds but picked him up took him to a inn ad paid for him to be taken care of look at he compassion and care and love given to someone he did not know it all took time and money. Interestingly the priest and levite were supposed to know Gods will by the law but didn't carry it out. Context Thou shalt love the lord thy God with all your heart soul mind and strength and neighbor as thyself. It speaks loudly, also the wine ad oil were used together medicinally in the east.

Hi Tim Exercising my sense of humour I was going to say maybe he thought it was a salad LoL O.K. seriously doing that at that time both fluids in balance have medicinal properties it was not unusual to lightly wrap wounds with oil and wine.

I agree Tim, that would sound strange to read it that way. Though I think it should be understood that the Samaritan bound up this guy's wounds, first pouring in the oil & wine. So his wounds were bound, he was put on the donkey, taken to the inn & cared for. The oil & wine information is just added in there showing that the care given to his wounds was more than just a bandaid job. At least that's how I read it & for it to make sense.

Luke 10:34, pouring in oil and wine, can that be explained. If the wounds were treated and bound, the pouring in of oil and wine sounds odd. Is it that it was put on the wounds as they were bound??

Thanks

Tim T

The calling of the Spirit as beelzebub or evil is the unforgivable sin. It is in effect a realization of the authority of God and is roughly equivalent to lucifers. Those angels who were present at the creation saw and rejoiced at thar time. It is much like those who do not love the truth (which clearly shows they know something about it) and subsequently believe the Lie of the sntichrust soon to be revealed. Blessed are those who haven't seen yet believe. After the rapture many will see and fear ( Psalm 40). By the sixth seal there will be no.atheists but full knowledge of God and the Son coming to judge. Without the Spirit revealing who Christ is man is blinded and hence it was hidden to the man who Christ said why do you call me good? He is attri used to a "good man" when in reality as CS Lewis so aptly said he is either God a life or a lunatic. When ww assail His character and works we have gone beyond the fear and to open rebellion as will characterize the lost later on in the tribulation who blaspheme God and harden their hearts as predestined to according to the Word if they are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world. Hence every sinner given uo to their own depraved nature eventually will end up this way and soon be delided to worship thr beast and be deluded by thr false prophet into their own version of eternal life. WHO CAN MAKE WAR WITH HIM (he with the deadly wound see Zachariah). He with the right eye damaged and right arm withered. Will inspired man to take the mark on the same body areas. If we hate God we love Satan and are empowered by the devil and hos world system. We become seared as a hot iron in callousness to our own helpless depraved wicked soul and go from choosing to remain in sin to eventually be condemned to remain in that state. Despite many testimonies to the contrary there will be no desire for the truth righteousness and worship of Christ in hell to men forever in an unregenerate state.

Dear Carol, If I may expand on Jesse's comment. Jesus warned the Jews that if they rejected (blasphemed) the Holy Ghost they would not be forgiven. He prayed for their rejection of himself on the cross, interceding for them, with the Father because they did not understand what they were doing. Israel later rejected the Holy Ghost's witness through Stephen (see Acts 7) and committed blasphemy against the Holy Ghost through Stephen. God then set them aside for judgment and raised another Apostle of for this age until the time of the Gentiles be full. God will then fulfill his promises to Israel for the future Kingdom. It is the Holy Ghost that witnesses to us today through His word. If we reject His word we condemn ourselves. Jesse is right about what it means for us today. We commit blasphemy of the Holy Ghost by rejection of Christ alone for our salvation. There is no other sin that has not already been, is or will be not covered by the faith of Christ for us today.

Carol,

Blasphemy is a word that is used to expresses rejection. This would be a person who refuses to gather with Christ in the whole process of the testimony of God's Spirit. If they reject God's Spirit, and His persuasion, and His conviction over their life, they cannot be forgiven for that. A person can be forgiven for everything else.

But if a person rejects the testimony of God's Spirit that is convicting them of their need for Christ, and their need to be saved, if they reject that, there is no forgiveness.

The sin problem has been dealt with. It's been paid for. Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world. So salvation has been paid for. Christ paid the penalty for sin by shedding His blood for the remission of sin. But if a person rejects that salvation, they are rejecting Christ. Salvation is a gift from God. He died for the sins of the whole world. If a person rejects that, they are rejecting the conviction of God's Spirit showing them their need for Christ. That is what it means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

I hope this helps!

what does blaspheming the Holy Ghost mean ?

Adam, its the same old world, likely evil has increased though. The world is against the Christian yet many Christians still love the world. For me it sad if there is loss amongst those once saved whether in the Kingdom or visible Church to losing focus on the purpose of salvation of souls. As time possibly nears its end more Christians are focused on their own survival in the remaining world. The race is not over until it is over. We must run to the finish with the peace of God in our hearts and without fear of our fellow men. Detailed end time doctrines are a distraction, not that a runner does not know that his surroundings may have changed and a possible correction in speed or less wind resistance or temperature related changes may be needed. Born again Christians have the Holy Ghost leading them in these times. There are many children and young adults that need an living example of carrying this peace in this race and that this immediate benefit is worth the whole race, yet it is only the beginning of the eternal purpose in Jesus Christ. Satan tempts the Christian in many ways but a favorite way is in the area of patience, the patience of the saints ne wants to take that away. Satan hates non- resistance and this is in no wise the same as complacency.

Written in love,

Carleton

Sounds a lot like the world we live in today...what are your thoughts, Adam?

He fell hard. In an age where we see society openly flirting with satan, sometimes clueless that they're flirting with eternal death, acting like wild animals, and acting entitled as little gods, people will one day see the true darkness of evil from this despicable deceiver they've followed and will scream in horror and regret for what they've done.

I don't think that Bible teachers avoid such passages; maybe those passages just don't come up in their course of studies or preaching. If you look at a commentaries, I'm sure you will find detailed comments about such issues.

When I consider them (such as 1 Samuel 15:3), or when God commands that the heathen be driven out of their lands, or to kill the males & save the women & children, I understand that God is exercising His Authority & right to do what He wants with His creation. Do we feel the same way when only 8 souls were saved in the Great Flood & many thousands of men, women, children & animals were destroyed? Or, when tragedy strikes us today (e.g. a Tsunami, earthquake, virus) & again an innumerable number destroyed?

Jeremiah 18:1-10 teaches us that God, the Potter, has the full right to do as He pleases with His creation. If God decides to strike me down today, does anyone have the right to ask Him, 'Why'. The problem then arises, when referring to those OT Scriptures, is in regards to whether any of God's appointed leaders, such as Joshua, Saul, etc., did actually receive God's Commands or were prompted by their own lust for war & destruction. I'm in no way suggesting this as I believe that God did speak & directed His servants in how they should deal with the heathen, but I only suggest this because people will query the authenticity of the Divine Command & therefore the issue needs to be dealt with them.

In this vein, I think of the Islamic prophet, Muhammed, who too claimed to be called by God to destroy the heathen idolators living in the cities of Mecca & Medina. Did He call him to do so, or was it done of his own volition? In the NT, we're never told to go out & slaughter anyone, but sadly it has been done in the name of Christianity (e.g. the Crusades, etc.). Ours is always the Gospel of love to all people. Yet, God hasn't finished with the World: millions more will yet be struck down by God through various means for their sins.

Cliff Kent, You really feel comfortable judging God? What have you done with his perfect sinless son?

On the question asked by Willie concerning verse 27 of Luke 10. "Love your neighbor as yourself". The Lord himself gives the answer. My fellow man (demonstrated by the wounded man and the loving actions of the Good Samaritan.) I believe that is best understood as a radius. In other words true love begins with our love of the Lord first, then radiates out to our closest neighbors. 1) Ourselves (a healthy love of who we are as God's creation and his purpose for our life.) 2) if married, my next closest neighbor is my spouse. You live with them the day and night. Love them as Christ loves his Church. 3) your kids 4) your parents, grandma and grandpa 5) your extended family (Aunts, Uncles, Cousins.) 5) your actual next door neighbor! How often And long do we live in an neighborhood or an apartment building for 5, 10 or even 20 years and not know or show love to our neighbor! 6) Friends and Associates. 6) Co-workers (that includes the Boss lol). 7) anyone we come in contact with in Church in particular, the grocery store, the bus or subway. On the train, plane. At the party or the funeral. Black people, White people, Brown people, Yellow people. Fellow Christians, Muslims, Mormons, Mexicans, Italians and Africans, the stranger, immigrants, foreigners. The hurting, the helpless, the hopeless, the bruised and 'wounded'. You get the picture - Show God''s to Everyone Everywhere!!! No matter who they are. Love God. Love yourself. Love your neighbor.

Willie,

You have also touched on something else I think is important, and that is some of these mega-ministries. 1 Peter 4:8 says "And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins."

Number one, he says and above all things. That means top priority. Have fervent charity among yourselves: And the word charity is the word Agape love. The word fervent literally means to stretch out the hand, or to extend out the hand.

So he's presenting a picture of an active love. In James Chapter 2, James says if somebody comes along and they're hungry and they need clothing, and you say "Well, I'll pray for you," what good is that? Faith without works is a dead faith. So when its hardships and when there's suffering, have an active extended love, and notice this: among yourselves.



If any of you have any knowledge of the Greek, the term among yourselves is in the Attributive Position. But the focus is supposed to be on fellow believers. Just like Jesus said, people will know you're my disciples by your love for one another.



One of the sickening things I've seen over the years is church ministries bringing in several million dollars a year for their projects to reach the uncivilized world. And that's great if that's what the Lord is leading you to do. But I notice that right around the church, there are a lot of people needing help.

But they look beyond that. They look at what looks good on the tote board. And even some people within the church are suffering and going without, and the sensitivity isn't there. Suffering creates sensitivity. Have an extended love among yourselves, for love shall cover the multitude of sins. That is from Proverbs 12:10.

Why cover a multitude of sins? Because that is what brings division and hardship within the body of Christ. We have to have an active extended love for repentance and restoration of sin. We have to deal with the sin issue in the body of Christ!

Willie,

Here is my understanding of what love your neighbor means. First of all, Luke 10:27 says Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. This comes from Deuteronomy 6:5, thou shalt love the Lord your God, and then Leviticus 19:18, you shall love your neighbor as yourself.

The term "Thou shalt love" in the Greek text is not in command form. It is called a Future Active Indicative. What this is telling us is that if we have the Spirit of Christ living in us, WE WILL love the Lord with all our heart, soul, strength, and mind, and WE WILL love our neighbor as ourselves. It is a statement of fact. The word love is the word Agape. This is different from human love (Phileo). Agape love is a fruit of God's Spirit which we are given in Galatians 5:22.

What is interesting is that to the Jews in the Old Testament, their neighbor was their fellow Jew. In the New Testament, the word neighbor for the Christian is a reference to other Christians. In fact, Jesus said it. He said, "All men will know that you are my disciples when you have love for one another." The highest love that I can show my brothers and sisters in Christ is to be obedient to Christ.

So, we are not commanded to get out there and start loving our neighbors. The command is YOU WILL. Its a factual statement. Since God is love (Agape), and He gives us His Spirit, and His Spirit in us produces that love, WE WILL love our neighbor, and WE WILL love the Lord our God. It's impossible not to because His Spirit in us produces that love!

I have always thought i knew what vs 27 meant, but with all that is going on today and especially when this mega church pastor "who will remain " nameless" spouts off non sense

what exactly does love your neighbor as yourself mean? I live in the south now and i am not seeing a lot of this, i am pretty sure i know what this means but I can't put it into words so i would like someone to help me to make sure I am getting this one right, because i read that love covers a multitude of sins so I want to make sure i understand this correctly.

Who is the king of Tyre in true Ezekiel 28?

Eternal Life is to Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind and thy Neighbor as thyself.

Your nieghbor is you,we are all one