Luke Chapter 15 Discussion Page 2

1 Timothy 2:9-10

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; but which becometh women professing godliness WITH good works.

Deuteronomy 22:5

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

We're not under the Law as Christians, but I would venture that other people make assumptions about you based on appearance. The key word is Modest.

Same goes for body piercings and tattoos. There's a danger of infections; illness from dirty equipment.

Isa. 3:16-24 talks about how God took the jewelry from the women, and never again said they could put it back on...what about the men, so men can wear jewelry but women cannot?

DWL, my apologies, I understood your question differently: a weakness in written expression. No, I don't believe that Jesus was deceitful in any way, shape or form. The fact that he He is God's Son & wanted to express Himself to the Father, particularly in these agonizing hours prior to His crucifixion, only serves to show His agony as a Man & One Who looked to His Father for comfort. Jesus is God come to us in the flesh & this is where you may be seeing and/or raising the conflict. So, would this be the focus of your enquiry: why does Jesus as God in the flesh, pray to (a) God in Heaven? Or, why should He pray at all, if He were God? Sorry, I can't appreciate the gist of your enquiry.

DWL You write Jesus was not God? I suggest you read 1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God (GOD) was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. GOD WITH US.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. This is why we use the king James

If you do not understand the differences between Father, Son and Holy Spirit I suggest a study on the Godhead.

Man was made in the image of God and man has a Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts that make 1 man.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Not the easier concept to grasp.

Chris - I know Jesus isn't deceitful, I asked if you believe Jesus is deceitful, he was praying to his Father (not himself-Jesus isn't God he is Gods only begotten Son) Matthew 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as (I) will, but as (thou) wilt.

DWL. Is there something in that verse that causes you to believe that Jesus may have been deceitful in His prayer to the Father? I've read that passage many times over & fail to see where the deception or pretence lies. Maybe, the different content in each prayer, or maybe, Him praying the same prayer twice? I can't see it.

I do not know how my post ended up reading something other than what I typed. What I remember posting was that I don't believe that Jesus was being deceitful. If you cut out the entire Song of Solomon part, add in what I just said here, and begin at 1 Peter 2:22 to the end, that is what I remember typing. I'm not sure how that ended up there?

I don't believe so. 1 Peter 2:22, says, "Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:" The word guile in the Greek text is the word Dolos, which means deceit. Jesus could never sin, nor could He ever be deceitful.

Do you think Jesus was deceitful, pretending to pray to his FATHER? Matthew 26:42

He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

There are plenty scriptures to argue but most of us prefer not debate.

Luke 15 is only about the prodigal son,not a woman.

As the woman called her friends to rejoice with her upon finding the lost piece of silver, so God calls his angels round when one sinner repenteth.

god will protect.

We should rejoice in Jesus, we should learn to forgive

Remember to use this scripture if you ever come across a Jehovah's Witness, as it completely debunks their shunning doctrine especially regarding family.

Luke 15:1-32 Jesus mind is on SALVATION, and many people came to hear Jesus message but, notice in verse 1-2 there are some with the people, leadership, who were against both Jesus and the people desiring to hear Jesus.

Luke 15:1-2 Jesus message is on SALVATION, and many people came to hear Jesus message but, notice there are those of the people who were against both Jesus and others of the people, especially against those who desired to hear the message of SALVATION.

When we sin, so many times, we do not see it for ourselves. The son that had stayed with the the father, was full of pride, and it blinded him. Yes, sometimes, we look at things in a earthly way, but never look on why are we feeling this way, and if you do, the road leads back to sin in our hearts. God is not a respecter of persons. Sometimes, like David, have to impress themselves in the Lord.

Please check out the following verses: Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; 1 Peter 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Steve: Woe! Jesus is not "the end of our faith" as you stated! JUDE:20 .."BUILDING UP YOURSELVES ON YOUR MOST HOLY FAITH". we overcome satan and his lies by our faith which comes by the Word of GOD Romans 10:17. Matt18:6,1John5:4

It takes what the younger son endured to seek mercy from God. And, God is One, not three, as Christians seem to think. Jesus represents the end of our faith, once we recognize the Truth, last the body is mortal, obviously, but the Spirit is everlasting, and the gift, which the other son took for granted, is given to those who read and understand the Word, the truth and live their lives according

I love reading the KJV of the Bible. your commentary and discussion words a good to read along with reading the scriptures.. after reading these helps, I like to go back and read the KJV of His Presence Word and it has a deepen meaning in my heart.

this was Jesus talking this is a lesson we should not be selfish and we should forgive

Verse 32~The loving father was trying to encourage the older son to be forgiving. His brother was spiritually dead and the father was happy that he repented and was not literally dead. We must show mercy to those who are repentant.

Verse 8-10: The woman is Zion ( Jeremiah 6:2), Light a candle ( Psalms 18:28

One thing is clearly missing from the younger son's repentance and return to his father; and that is the popular but unscriptural idea of "accepting Jesus!" When he came to himself and saw his dreadful condition as it truly was; the result of his sins! He saw himself as unfit to even be called a son! He didn't say, O father, now I accept you! but, Father, I am not worthy, BUT PLEASE ACCEPT ME!

"I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance." The comparison between "one sinner that repents," and, "just persons who need no repentance," is not to say that there is a class of people who don't need to repent; but that holier than thou despising of others IS NOT THE ATTITUDE OF HEAVEN!

"And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends". Would to God we had sons like this today. Nor was I a son such as this one. I was the prodigal. How would this world be, if all sons were like this today? The prodigal son returned as well...

praise the lord for his mercy that he grants the born again christian
repentance when we sin or no one would have a chance to escape
hell without what jesus christ has done for us at calvarys cross
for our transgression.by grace are we saved through faith it
is not of yourselves it is the gift of GOD not of works lest any
man should boost. ephesians 2-8

Pursue after Christ like the shepherd pursued after the one lost sheep.
Our life is not our own. It is God's.

Son of David; I like your kind and non-condemning way to look at it, but I think the younger son was rather looking for the party than a way to make his living. He squandered all his money on sin and selfishness, and brought disgrace to his father's name; and his repentance was marked by acknowledging the truth that he was not fit to be called anymore a son, and acceptance of his punishment.