Luke Chapter 21 Discussion Page 6

The body church will be caught away.

NOTE THAT THE BIG TEST WILL BE WHEN YOU SEE YOUR PARENTS AND BRETHREN AND FRIEND,S AND KINSFOLK,S TRY TO PUT TO DEATH.JEST BECOUSE OF THE WORD OF JESUS CHRIST YOU MUST BE DOING SOMTHING RIGHT AND HAVE A HOLE LOT OF FAITH.TO DO THE WORK OF CHRIST I LOVE IT JEST THINK OF JESUS,S PAIN HE HUNG ON THE CROSS IN THE FLEASH BUT WE CANNOT STAND TO HANG EVEN IN THE SPIRIT.THIS JEST TEST OUR FAITH SO LETS GET THE JOB DONE. LUKE CH.12 NEXT THE SAYING IS TRUE THEY SHALL LAY THERE HANDS ON YOU AND PERSECUTE YOU AND DELIVERING YOU UP TO THE SYNAGOGUES AND IN TO PRISON AND BEING BROUGHT BEFOR KING,S AND RULER,S FOR HIS NAME SAKE. THATS JEST PART OF OUR JOB PS.DONOT PLAY CHURCH. YES THE PEOPLE CLOSE TO YOU AND LIVE IN YOUR OWN HOUSE WILL HURT YOU THE MOST. PRAY ALWAYS AND USE YOUR SWORD.

February 15 2013 over Russia a meteor collides with the atmosphere releasing 30 times the energy of Hiroshima in WW2 and 10 times the magnitude of the sun shaking the earth so violent buildings were broken open and could not hold heat forest laid low. then September 11 2013 Lunar hit largest ever known seen by man. on November 28 2013 on Honukkah Comet ISON was vaporized by the sun then on 4 14 2014 mars closer to earth than in the last 34 years but will be even closer in 2018 the very next day on 4 15 2014 on Passover the first of the four tetrads blood moons to occur in a row on Biblical holidays all four are over America pointing at their significance. they are accompanied buy 2 solar eclipses as well. their are also another set of blood moon trips to occur in 2018 and 19 these are very rare and less than a dozen have occurred in succession since Jesus was crucified in the middle of 4 blood moons and never accompanying more than one total eclipse of the sun neither followed by trips only three years apart.

The Day of our LORD will come soon enough. Tell all to open the Bible and read the lord 's word and get to know the LORD our GOD while they still have a life to do so. The Lord 's little Helper Paul Felix Schott

Your own soul will be subject to you in all these things if you re patient as you pass through them

Yes I, DO BELIEVE WE ARE IN THE LAST DAYS. base upon the Black horse the balances, the wheat, and barley, and how food, and gas ,clothing, are more than they need to be. the cost of living is just like REVELATIONS 6:5,6 MATTHEWS 24:7 LUKE 21:11 spoke of when you see these things happening then you know we are in the last days. at the beginning of tribulation.

12But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

AMEN
22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

I do beleif it.And I will wait for this prediction.

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When so called ison reached the Sun. It was a sign in Heaven that 1 year has passed to the day since the u.n. vote to +setup+ the dividing of the land of Jerusalem 11-29-2012 by the u.n. and pushed by ban ki-moon, the king of the atheist that tempts God!
REPENT! THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!
LOOK & SEE WHAT IS & SHALL BE! 
READ: Daniel chapter 7, 11 & 12 
Revelations chapter 12 vers 12.
 Luke chapter 21-vers20. 
Then READ: u.n. general assembly GA/11317. A.S.A.P.
Check the bottom of the document and see of your gov. voted against The Father God. They stand against God in the vote. Read Daniel chp 11.
"Come out of her people of God"!
They are as the serpent in the Garden that says God shall not surely destroy them but He will destroy their lands! And they will weep and not be heard! And He sends His Angels to cast them into the pit that was made for the evil angels! 
You have read this far and no longer have a cloak in this matter. 
If you do not research it is your own heart you have to blame.
You have been told!
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I woke up this morning with this verse onn my mind it scared me or intriqued me, so I just looked it up on google to get a take on others views...!

This is a solemn verse to all who are waiting for the second coming of Jesue,because the rapid changes in nature shows that we are almost home.

God is great & Jesus is love

I think that portion is yet future,and concern's the gog magog uprising against the land of Israel.

I find this so fascinating. I can't wait to read more.

It was necessary for Jesus to forewarn even the apostles of such gross sins, like these. We become foolish if we think ourselves to be immune to sin; hence Christ tells the apostles to take heed, even in things in which we may think we shouldn't dabble.

Im trying to find the connection of the giving from verse 1 to 4 and the building

Even though God wants his children to be patient, when the need to possess our possessions comes we should also stand up to it.

how cn i pray and be heard

"All things which are written" refers to all Old Testament Prophecy. What is evident then, is that nothing of a specific nature, prophesied before the end of the war of 70 AD, can be fulfilled. An example is the future restoration of Israel, foretold in the Old Testament. During the time of Christ, God used every means available to persuade His people to accept His beloved Son, and to remain faithful to Him. But many would not. Those who rejected Christ to the very end had their names blotted out of the Book of Life. While the faithful Jews had their salvation confirmed, and were Raptured, the rest were left behind, and they and their descendants remain to this day as Gentiles, in other words, blinded Jews. This, by the way, was God's last attempt to gather His people to Himself. Those who remained faithful are, no doubt, in heaven. The others, who try to live by the Law, are under the curse. At any rate, they can only be saved the same way Gentiles are saved, by faith in Jesus Christ. Isaiah 6 gives proof that no future generation of Israel will be punished for what evil their ancestors did, nor rewarded for any good things their forefathers did. And Deuteronomy 7 reveals that, while God keeps His covenants for a "thousand generations" (meaning all eternity), He only keeps his promises to those who love Him and obey His commandments.

2 Peter 3:10 is the same event as is Matthew 24:29, the heavens shall be shaken, the sun goes out and the moon turns red and then every living human will die and those who are saved will be with Christ. And those who are not of the resurrection are in their graves. The universe will melt with fervent heat the earth also. This is at the end but not before Christ stands on the mount of olives and it splits in two, Israel is defended by Christ and Satan is put in the bottomless pit.

Those of you who are piling on Thomas are forgetting one very important thing. Thomas was chosen by Jesus as one of the original 12 to be called Apostles. You also forget that Jesus used ordinary men with very ordinary and extraordinary failings to counter the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and preach the Word. Yes, in the end, Thomas did come to truly believe when he saw Christ's palms and side and went on to preach the Word up until his martyrdom like all the rest of the Apostles except John. Thomas was no more an intellect than I am, but rather just and ordinary man chosen and molded for extraordinary reasons.

@Timothy comments towards doubting Thomas:
1. I agree with Clint that you cannot argue with an unbelieving such as Thomas appears to be, he will most likely be doubting until he comes face to face with Jesus himself and sees the hole in his side and nail scarred hands;
2. There is enough evidence to prove that the King James Bible 1611 is the only holy spirit inspired word of God to the English speaking people and God knowing that English was going to be the language of the world in the last days, ordained this perfectly preserved Bible in 1604-1611 by a king ( Psalm 12:6,7), and is the seventh bible translated into the English speaking language;
3. We are not suppose to answer a fool according to his folly ( Proverbs 26:4) and cast our pearls before swine ( Matthew 7:6);
4. Last week I took a few minutes to demonstrate the King James 1611 compared to the NIV to a young person in the lord, a disciple of mine and he understood immediately because he is open to truth, unlike doubting Thomas;
5. I have come across people like doubting Thomas many times, and the only thing this person is interested in doing is vacillating his intellect for others to witness just like the Pharisees and Sadducees;
6. The Sadducees deny the resurrection that's why they were sad-u-see, and the resurrection alone verifies the virgin birth ( Romans 1:4; 8:11);
7. So let doubting Thomas alone to wallow in his intellect and turn him over to God for the destruction of his unbelieving spirit;
8. There is nothing wrong with being an intellectual, but do not allow the intellect to undermine the simple faith that comes from Christ Jesus, our savior ( 2 Corinthians 11:3).

You can’t argue with unbelievers, they disparage THE WORD because they haven’t got the Holy Spirit. Satan tries millions of ways to put doubts into men’s mind and these are tools of Satan and his demons! As Christians all we can do is pray for them that God will have mercy on them and deliver them from Satan’s influence!

Dear Doubting Thomas, true the KJV was written in Textus Receptus,as instead of the Minority Report. We are not going to get in the debate about the original manual manuscripts of the bible. The KJV is the oldest contemporary copy of the Word of God, and it is the most correct translation from the Vulgate to English. Paul said the just shall live by faith. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen. We believe by faith that Jesus Christ was born of the Virgin Mary, suffered death of the Cross, was buried, and the third day rose from the dead. He is coming again, to judge the living and the dead. It is appointed unto man once to die, and after that the judgment. Prepare to meet thy God. Prophecy confirms the veracity of the Bible, and just wait until all prophecy will be fulfilled. Jesus said in your patience posses ye your souls. Thank God for the Bible.

RE: RE: Timothy Wayne George

So all of the other Biblical translations before the KJV were NOT the word of God? You say this version “is the oldest copy of the word of God”. How can that be? The translators of the KJV used the Texus Receptus and other documents as a basis for their translation. What about the other Gospels and Books that were left out of the cannon? Men decided what was to be in the Bible.

While we are on Virgin birth, the correct interpretation is “Born of a Young Woman” (Issa 7:14). INFACT the KJV mistranslated the Hebrew. The study of the Bible via textual criticism by scholars has shown this interpretation to be in error. In Isaiah 7, the “young woman’ is living in the time of the prophecy.

How can all of the world be taxed? The taxation story is only in Luke’s Gospel. If so, you would think that the only other birth narrative would have mentioned this? As I have stated previously, the narratives of the Gospels of Luke and Matthew don’t match. They are two different versions of a birth event. Not to mention, why would you have to travel to be taxed? What was the hurry? It did not work this way in the 1st century. The taxation event has been historically proved to be by Cyrenius governor of Syria.

Jesus said he would return (21:23). This did not happen.

Why?

Re: Doubting Thomas, Do you believe that Jesus
Christ was born of the Virgin Mary? Do you believe that Caesar Augustus proclaimed all the world to be taxed? It is true the synoptic gospels are Matt, Mark, and Luke. The Bible is the verbal plenary inspired word of God. Written in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. The King James was translated by 47 scholars of King James I in 1611, and is the oldest copy of the word of God. Paul said in I Cor.13 we see thru a glass darkly, but when he that is perfect shall come, we will know as we are known. All of the questions about the Bible will be answered when we are face to face with Jesus. Jesus came into this world to save man from his sin. He died on the cross, was buried, and the third day he rose from the grave. He ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father, from which He will come again to judge the living, and the dead. Thank God that He gave you the Bible to study. Jesus said to search the scriptures, for these are they that testify of me. The Holy Spirit takes the word of God, and makes the scriptures real. If you have not received Jesus as your Savior, then you do not have the Holy Spirit abiding in you. Ask Jesus to come into your heart, and save you. He will,then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, and the veracity of the scriptures will be made known to you. So pray to the Lord: Ask, seek, and knock. The door will be opened for you. We are praying for you to make that decision. When Thomas put his hands into the nail prints of the Lord's side, he said my Lord, and my God. Jesus said blessed are you because you have seen. We are more blessed because we believe, and have not seen. When Jesus comes back, we will see Him as He is, and we shall be like Him.

RE: Timothy Wayne George

Matt: 24 and Luke: 17 are just a retelling of Mark: 13. That is why these Gospels are called the synoptic Gospels, because they are seen together. The majority of Luke and Matthew are from the Gospel of Mark. These Gospels are attributed to these disciples, but were NOT written by them.

Luke: 17 is BEFORE Luke: 21, so the description of "end times" events preceded the declaration by Jesus that “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled".

This proclamation did not take place. The "generation" did pass away.

How can this logically be explained?

When Jesus said this generation shall not pass away till all these things be fulfilled you have to remember all in the bible means all. We have seen some of these signs of the second coming,but all have not been fulfilled. This is the Olivet discourse, and you have to study Matt. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 17 also. The fig tree to watch is Israel, and in 1948 was the budding of the fig tree. The EU in 1957, the beginning of the revival of the Roman Empire. When Jesus spoke of the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, that event has not happened yet. So we are not that generation that He is talking about. There are no signs for the rapture of the Church, and this could happen in momment. Once this event takes place, the antichrist will come to power, and sign a false peace treaty with Israel for seven years. After 3 1/2yrs that is when the antichrist will claim to be god in the temple, causing all to receive the mark of the beast 666, and this generation that will see these things happen will not pass away, until Christ returns in glory to set up his Kingdom. Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour except the Father in heaven. We can only know that it is nigh at hand by the signs that we see today. Jesus said when you begin to see these things take place lift up your head, for your redemption draweth near even at the door. Study the book of Daniel, and Revelation to get a better understanding of the second advent of Christ.

This Gospel says that Jesus said " Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled".
The prophesy did not happen! I know the apologists can twist this around, but the fact remains (as written in Luke 21) that this prophetic event did not take place. So, if Jesus did not know, what does that tell you?

Think about it.

This has to be the most mistranslated vese in the Bible. If Jesus was talking about a faulse pophets here then Paul would have been tagged as one when he said "For me to live is Christ"

Jesus is talking about faulse Christians here. The decievers Jesus is talking about here are not saying that they themselves are Christ. They ar sayig that Jesus is the Christ thus most of Christanity today is included in His words.

Satin loves this twist of the God's word.